#OccupyWallstreet

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momeNt

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Straw man.

You are mixing arguments. You just included colleges, donations, Africa and starvation all in a thread about how it is unfair that regulation has been stripped back to levels similar to the 1920's in regard to corporations, and our economic indicators all point to depression which we are fighting right now.

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Most in this protest are just looking for controls and a leveling of the playing field. Similar to what most "Red blooded Amerikuns" ask for too.

Good points. What I commented on basically had nothing to do with OWS and I used the 99% vs 1%(99%) picture to discuss that. Good catch.

I definitely don't condemn the OWS protestors. The ones that go outside of the different Fed banks I definitely applaud, because they are the ones that understand the problems inherent in our financial system. A private central bank chartered by the predominant bankers of the early 1900s couldn't have possibly had the interests of the american people in mind when they drafted the charter, it was drafted in the interests of the banks. As we see now those interests are not shared interests.
 

spidey07

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To the extent that they are, because they also oppose pervasive corruption. Because they recognize they share some common goals. Maybe even because they see an opportunity for self-promotion, beyond the OWS agenda.

I don't need to "get around" that fact because it means nothing. "Politics makes strange bedfellows" is one of the oldest sayings in the book for good reason. So is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." If you really need a few absurd examples to prove how dumb your guilt by association innuendo is, I can provide them.



If you can offer objective, credible evidence that this is an actual goal of the OWS movement (as opposed to a couple of fringe folks making noise -- just like your purported salary demand lie), provide it and I'll take a look. Otherwise, I will assume this is just more of your dishonesty.



Which of course is exactly my point you're running from again: you limit your input to other nutter sources within your bubble, so you only hear things you already believe. Your so-called "reality and facts" are being spoon-fed to you by people who want to keep you ignorant and outraged. If you had the balls (and the honesty) to venture out into the real world, you'd find it's not the simple-minded, black and white surreality you've been sold.

I get most of my news from AP on my phone, some nutter source, eh? Unlike you I am paying attention to the world, this administration and these anti-americans.

Here's the proof you requested (AP article).

http://www.wftv.com/news/ap/education/oakland-prepares-to-be-occupy-movement-epicenter/nFSdp/

OAKLAND, Calif. —

Protesters are carrying out a series of marches across Oakland on Wednesday to make a statement about the power and unity of the anti-Wall Street movement as they team up with labor unions to picket banks, take over foreclosed homes and vacant buildings and disrupt operations at the nation's fifth-busiest port.
 
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bfdd

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Good points. What I commented on basically had nothing to do with OWS and I used the 99% vs 1%(99%) picture to discuss that. Good catch.

I definitely don't condemn the OWS protestors. The ones that go outside of the different Fed banks I definitely applaud, because they are the ones that understand the problems inherent in our financial system. A private central bank chartered by the predominant bankers of the early 1900s couldn't have possibly had the interests of the american people in mind when they drafted the charter, it was drafted in the interests of the banks. As we see now those interests are not shared interests.

right? one would think that such an entity would be solely owned and operated by the entity owned by the people, the Government.
 

Ninjahedge

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It is always good to cut the red tape, but it is better to make sure there is SOME tape still holding things together.
 

Icepick

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You're delusional and apparently out of touch with reality. Most of the interviews I've seen and videos are all about "student loans are bad, forgive all debt", "jobs are a right", "education is a right", "corporations are evil". It's all marxist claptrap.

Nothing more than a bunch of commies. The liberals keep viewing this through their clouded glasses making it what they want it to be instead of what it really is. I am happy they are being exposed for their true beliefs however.

If they are protesting government, why don't they protest Obama instead? That's right, they won't, because this is a hardcore radical fringe leftist movement. Why do you think the unions, the communist part, et al. are in such strong support?

These protesters are not my fellow Amerians, they are the enemy, they are anti-American and against the American way of life. May great fuck be upon them.

Wow. This is a very strong case of selective hearing. Try listening to NPR once in a while for some non-biased news reporting. You'll come away much more informed.

Actually, I consider these Americans to be very courageous and patriotic. If you're seriously going to stand there and pretend to agree with the Conservative mantra that ANY tax levied upon wealthy people is "unfair" then I consider you either very uninformed or else simply a troll.
 

spidey07

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Wow. This is a very strong case of selective hearing. Try listening to NPR once in a while for some non-biased news reporting. You'll come away much more informed.

Wife listens to NPR, so I've gotten a does of that liberal claptrap. If you like NPR, you're a liberal. Being left wing they of course would refuse to report anything that makes a far left movement look bad.
 

Orignal Earl

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Wife listens to NPR, so I've gotten a does of that liberal claptrap. If you like NPR, you're a liberal. Being left wing they of course would refuse to report anything that makes a far left movement look bad.

If your wife listens to NPR, she is a liberal, and if shes a liberal , shes a traitor. And if shes a traitor, your a traitor.
Help me out here with the rest Moonie
 
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Wife listens to NPR, so I've gotten a does of that liberal claptrap. If you like NPR, you're a liberal. Being left wing they of course would refuse to report anything that makes a far left movement look bad.
Damn...I'm a liberal now!

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IMO...bias pervades everything...it's just that your sensitivity to it is directly proportional to the degree it conflicts with your own personal bias.
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JSt0rm

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Get the guns! Hide them from your wife before she takes up arms against you.

Seriously though, you don't actually have a wife.
 

Icepick

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Wife listens to NPR, so I've gotten a does of that liberal claptrap. If you like NPR, you're a liberal. Being left wing they of course would refuse to report anything that makes a far left movement look bad.

Couldn't be further from the truth. In my humble opinion, NPR is one of the very few places where we can receive truly fair and unbiased reporting of current events. This afternoon our local NPR station broadcast a recent speech by Michelle Bachman in it's entirety and unedited. A "liberal claptrap" would never do such a thing.
 

airdata

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Wife listens to NPR, so I've gotten a does of that liberal claptrap. If you like NPR, you're a liberal. Being left wing they of course would refuse to report anything that makes a far left movement look bad.

I didn't realize that protesting blatant corruption was left or right wing.



But then again... "right wingers" confuse the hell out of me. They're anti #occupy. They're anti government since obama is in office. Regardless of much of Obama's policies being the same that Bush was doing when he was praised by the same "right wingers".

They can go on and on about how the government is fucking up and then they type pages and pages in forums to in their minds crush the #occupy movement.
 

Patranus

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LOL - Just reading how the Flea Baggers in Oakland unofficially renamed Frank Ogawa Plaza (civil rights leader) to Oscar Grant Plaza (criminal scumbag).
 

dwell

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LOL - Just reading how the Flea Baggers in Oakland unofficially renamed Frank Ogawa Plaza (civil rights leader) to Oscar Grant Plaza (criminal scumbag).

Yeah, all it takes is getting shot by cops to forget your two-year prison stretch. Maybe a serial rapist will get hit with a rubber bullet and get a statue erected for him in Oakland.
 

Darwin333

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Maybe its because people in rich neighborhoods assist the police when a crime is committed but people in the poor neighborhoods assist the criminals? :hmm:




Maybe if those poor bastards talked to police the criminal who is breaking into their house would be in jail instead of on the street........

Like I said, fuck those poor bastards. They damn well deserve what they get. The police shouldn't even be responding to their calls, they don't pay any taxes to pay for the police anyway. No, WE pay for it so they shouldn't even leave their patrols in our neighborhoods to respond to those poor bastards bullshit. They don't have shit to steal anyway!

Pisses me off when their piece of shit cars break down and fuck up traffic too.
 

Darwin333

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LOL - Just reading how the Flea Baggers in Oakland unofficially renamed Frank Ogawa Plaza (civil rights leader) to Oscar Grant Plaza (criminal scumbag).

LOL! I just realized that I get more news about what OWS is doing from people that think what they are doing is completely irrelevant, inconsequential, and not worth paying attention to.

Thats some irony for ya.
 

airdata

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Like I said, fuck those poor bastards. They damn well deserve what they get. The police shouldn't even be responding to their calls, they don't pay any taxes to pay for the police anyway. No, WE pay for it so they shouldn't even leave their patrols in our neighborhoods to respond to those poor bastards bullshit. They don't have shit to steal anyway!

Pisses me off when their piece of shit cars break down and fuck up traffic too.

Fuck em.

Am I right?
 
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