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Darwin333

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Wife listens to NPR, so I've gotten a does of that liberal claptrap. If you like NPR, you're a liberal. Being left wing they of course would refuse to report anything that makes a far left movement look bad.

Obviously you must kill her. Come on Spidey, this is the day that you and your brethren have prepared for! Are you really going to allow an obvious infiltrator to thwart all of your plans and hard work? Are you just going to lie down and give the enemy a huge victory that will bring them closer towards their end goal?

You know what you must do.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
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Obviously you must kill her. Come on Spidey, this is the day that you and your brethren have prepared for! Are you really going to allow an obvious infiltrator to thwart all of your plans and hard work? Are you just going to lie down and give the enemy a huge victory that will bring them closer towards their end goal?

You know what you must do.

She still curses up a storm when the president is on the TV so she gets a pass. Nothing will get her more angry and raged than listening to the president. Nothing.
 

Darwin333

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The only other plausible explanation is that all of the people involved (politicians, the Federal Reserve, financial institutions, banksters, etc.) ALL of them lacked a basic understanding of elementary math.

I assume that is what you believe.
 

Steeplerot

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She still curses up a storm when the president is on the TV so she gets a pass. Nothing will get her more angry and raged than listening to the president. Nothing.

As long as she brings home the government bacon so you can sit all day and bitch about all the bad people out to take from you -it's all good.
 

Darwin333

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She still curses up a storm when the president is on the TV so she gets a pass. Nothing will get her more angry and raged than listening to the president. Nothing.

That is just a ploy and deep down you know it. How could you of all people allowed an enemy in the ranks?

You may have already handed the enemy a victory! There might be a chance to salvage some of the hard work and untold resources put in but you must act NOW!

You have let your brothers down Spidey, I only hope that it is not too late for you to redeem yourself.
 

HendrixFan

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She still curses up a storm when the president is on the TV so she gets a pass. Nothing will get her more angry and raged than listening to the president. Nothing.

Sounds like somebody isn't taking care of business if she is so high strung like that.
 

Nebor

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As long as she brings home the government bacon so you can sit all day and bitch about all the bad people out to take from you -it's all good.

I really don't think this bothers him at all. You're effectively paying him to sit there and laugh at you.
 

dwell

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This quote pretty much encapsulates my problem with this movement:

"I was laid off in 2008. I have a total of $60,000 in savings for the rest of my life. I'm screwed," said Dunn Miller, 67, an unemployed librarian from Oakland. "No one will hire me. They take one look at my face and say, 'No thank you.'"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-02/occupy-wall-street-veterans/51046142/1

When, ever, in the history of the United States was a 67-year-old with a career as a librarian ever a hot commodity? What's his beef, that age discrimination and bad career choices be abolished?

The entire movement just seems to me like a way for every sad sack out there to air their grievances and nothing more.
 

Steeplerot

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I really don't think this bothers him at all. You're effectively paying him to sit there and laugh at you.

He does not come off as being "funny", he seems disturbed and lonely/bitter really.

Now Were for example can be a dick and I think he is laughing at times even if I disagree if he is justified or not.

I wouldn't encourage people like Spidey, he has all the classic symptoms of someone who will sooner or later think the world is against him enough he needs to fight back somehow. Not just your typical rah rah football partisan. Not good.
 

dwell

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Well that, and whatever else BS right wing media elite 1% pukes out you post daily to crap on fellow Americans. *yawn*

Why is anyone who is opposed to this ridiculous movement labeled "right wing", "Republican", "teabagger", or "conservative"?

Seems extremist assholes just want to tussle with other extremist assholes. People like me (people with a brain that is) would never bother with partisan politics.

It doesn't take someone from the other political party to see that the OWS crowd are a bunch of whiny losers.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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This quote pretty much encapsulates my problem with this movement:



http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-02/occupy-wall-street-veterans/51046142/1

When, ever, in the history of the United States was a 67-year-old with a career as a librarian ever a hot commodity? What's his beef, that age discrimination and bad career choices be abolished?

The entire movement just seems to me like a way for every sad sack out there to air their grievances and nothing more.

Ahh yes, part of the usual right wing authoritarian rant- belittling one's "social inferiors". It's an extremely repulsive trait.

Librarians serve a legitimate social and economic function, unlike some of the high earners who basically milk the system for whatever they can get. Civilization would come crashing down if nobody would carry off the garbage, but it'd do just fine if the heads of the fortune 500 all died in their sleep the same night...
 

dwell

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Ahh yes, part of the usual right wing authoritarian rant- belittling one's "social inferiors". It's an extremely repulsive trait.

Librarians serve a legitimate social and economic function, unlike some of the high earners who basically milk the system for whatever they can get. Civilization would come crashing down if nobody would carry off the garbage, but it'd do just fine if the heads of the fortune 500 all died in their sleep the same night...

It's not like there's an enormous chasm in skill sets, salary, or ego boost between a librarian and a Starbuck's barista. You telling me none of the 100+ Starbucks in Alameda County would hire this guy if he applied? I see old people working in SBUX and other franchises all the time.

The librarian career path is doomed regardless. Why doesn't he protest Apple, Microsoft, or UC Berkley for technology killing his trade. Why bitch and complain at mythical "the 1%" boogeymen when that has fuck all to do with why he's out of a job?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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It's not like there's an enormous chasm in skill sets, salary, or ego boost between a librarian and a Starbuck's barista. You telling me none of the 100+ Starbucks in Alameda County would hire this guy if he applied? I see old people working in SBUX and other franchises all the time.

The librarian career path is doomed regardless. Why doesn't he protest Apple, Microsoft, or UC Berkley for technology killing his trade. Why bitch and complain at mythical "the 1%" boogeymen when that has fuck all to do with why he's out of a job?

You have no idea what you're talking about, and are actually belittling highly skilled professionals holding advanced degrees-

Academic courses in library science include collection management, information systems and technology, research methods, cataloging and classification, preservation, reference, statistics and management. Library science is constantly evolving, incorporating new topics like database management, information architecture and knowledge management, among others.

Most professional library jobs require a professional post-baccalaureate degree in library science, or one of its equivalent terms, library and information science as a basic credential. In the United States and Canada the certification usually comes from a master's degree granted by an ALA-accredited institution, so even non-scholarly librarians have an originally academic background. In the United Kingdom, however, there have been moves to broaden the entry requirements to professional library posts, such that qualifications in, or experience of, a number of other disciplines have become more acceptable. In Australia, a number of institutions offer degrees accepted by the ALIA (Australian Library and Information Association).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_science

I rather suspect that factual information of any kind seldom penetrates your consciousness, particularly not any that you can't accept solely on the basis of confirmation bias.
 

Steeplerot

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librarians have been replaced by google

I use my local library a few times a week. Google can not replace (yet) finding archival materials and historical books on subjects somewhat rare. The internet is still quite immature with the amount of information going back, and usually has a "echo chamber" feel for what it has absorbed so far that can distort indepth research.
 

dwell

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_science

There is actually a lot of difference, a big part of which is schooling, the kind you obviously skipped to be so dense.

From your own link:

According to U.S. News & World Report, library and information science ranked as one of the "Best Careers of 2008." The median annual salary for 2007 was reported as $51,400 USD in the United States, with additional salary breakdowns available by metropolitan area, with San Francisco coming in the highest with an average salary of $64,400 and Philadelphia the lowest at $48,200.

So, the guy was laid off in 2008 in the Bay area which, according to your link, was the hotbed and time for the library science field and he can't keep a job? So either his skills are for shit or it's a case of age discrimination. To my original point neither has anything to do with the OWS agenda or has changed in the last 50-some-odd years.

I use my local library a few times a week. Google can not replace (yet) finding archival materials and historical books on subjects somewhat rare. The internet is still quite immature with the amount of information going back, and usually has a "echo chamber" feel for what it has absorbed so far that can distort indepth research.

Did you need a librarian to find the books?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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I use my local library a few times a week. Google can not replace (yet) finding archival materials and historical books on subjects somewhat rare. The internet is still quite immature with the amount of information going back, and usually has a "echo chamber" feel for what it has absorbed so far that can distort indepth research.

anecdotal as fuck but I don't know anyone except college students that still use a library

google has definitely replaced the librarian for me

:shrug:
 

dwell

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PS: A barista can earn $45k + benefits @ five hours a day + two week's vacation a year. Comparable to a librarian and equally a dead end career.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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PS: A barista can earn $45k + benefits @ five hours a day + two week's vacation a year. Comparable to a librarian and equally a dead end career.

I broke down the math and can't get up to 45k

A barista would need to make 21.63/hour for during a standard year (40hrs/week x 52 weeks) to make 45k

if a barista makes 21.63/hour base + tips...
 
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dwell

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I broke down the math and can't get up to 45k

A barista would need to make 21.63/hour for during a standard year (40hrs/week x 52 weeks) to make 45k

if a barista makes 21.63/hour base + tips...

My bad. Was going off someone I knew who did it but they were a store manager.
 
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