#OccupyWallstreet

[Ninjahedge]

Thats a lie

http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp

Got me.

Lesson learned? Classic dogma usually has no basis.

Maybe we just need to keep them in a hot pot and give them beer until they dehydrate...

 

[Ninjahedge]

No, it's a metaphor, and it's right on target.

That was my point, but good to know it is a classic myth!

 

[Ninjahedge]

Its not on target. The frog would jump out of the water when it got hot.

No, the metaphor is, the science isn't.

Lets not turn this into a thread about fallacies in classic metaphors, K?

 

[jackstar7]

Matt Taibbi explains that it isn't about envy, for your dismissal:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...all-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025

 

[spidey07]

Matt Taibbi explains that it isn't about envy, for your dismissal:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...all-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025

Seems the author is like other liberals in this thread who want to imagine what it's about and seem to openly ignore the signs, statements and rhetoric of the protesters about how it isn't "fair" that people make so much money.

All weekend I was thinking about this “jealousy” question, and I just kept coming back to all the different ways the game is rigged. People aren't jealous and they don’t want privileges. They just want a level playing field, and they want Wall Street to give up its cheat codes, things like:

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...t-winning-its-cheating-20111025#ixzz1ckcazkRJ

Right, he's ignoring all the cries to forgive student loans which have been there from the very beginning. Nothing more than another liberal who wants to romanticize the protesters and project his beliefs onto them, all the while ignoring the violence, rapes, signs, statements and actions of the protesters themselves.

Libtard article thoroughly dismissed.

Most of Buffet’s income, it seems, was taxed as either "carried interest" (i.e. hedge-fund income) or long-term capital gains, both of which carry 15% tax rates, half of what many of the Zucotti park protesters will pay.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...t-winning-its-cheating-20111025#ixzz1ckdXGnSk

That is patently false unless the Zucotti protesters are in the 1% of income wage earners.

 

[jackstar7]

Libtard article thoroughly dismissed.

Thanks for not taking too long with this, and for doing as requested.


So because some of the protesters want student loan forgiveness, but the movement as a whole remains without goals other than raising awareness, it is dismissed. Got it.

 

[monovillage]

Thanks for not taking too long with this, and for doing as requested.

cry some more.

 

[jackstar7]

cry some more.

I usually do, hence the avatar.

 

[airdata]

Seems the author is like other liberals in this thread who want to imagine what it's about and seem to openly ignore the signs, statements and rhetoric of the protesters about how it isn't "fair" that people make so much money.

Theres far too many protesters to group everybody together as if they all stand for the same thing.

We'll take the racial equivalent. Black kid w\ sagging pants trips in front of me in the street. I laugh at his stupidity but know that not all black people are walking around like that.


Wall Street Isn't Winning – It's Cheating

That's the title of the Matt Taibbi article. And like him or not, he hits alot of things dead on. People just attack him because they heard somebody call him a liberal or something else and probably an assortment of other ad hominem things to discount him instead of admit he's right about anything.

I see alot of people write taibbi off right away... they don't read the articles and don't care what he writes about because they don't like him on a personal level. That's just sad.

Go read his article about the wallstreet CEO's that had their wives set up a shell company in order to get millions in bailout funds.

 

[spidey07]

Theres far too many protesters to group everybody together as if they all stand for the same thing.

We'll take the racial equivalent. Black kid w\ sagging pants trips in front of me in the street. I laugh at his stupidity but know that not all black people are walking around like that.


Wall Street Isn't Winning – It's Cheating

That's the title of the Matt Taibbi article. And like him or not, he hits alot of things dead on. People just attack him because they heard somebody call him a liberal or something else and probably an assortment of other ad hominem things to discount him instead of admit he's right about anything.

I see alot of people write taibbi off right away... they don't read the articles and don't care what he writes about because they don't like him on a personal level. That's just sad.

Go read his article about the wallstreet CEO's that had their wives set up a shell company in order to get millions in bailout funds.

You mean like democrats in congress doing the same thing? Why are you and other folks not protesting the democrats who had control of congress from 2006-2010 that enabled this?

I'll give you a hint as to why. Because it's a far left movement pushed by the left and this administration to deflect any outrage at them and direct it to "those fat cats on wall street" to use the term this failed president has been using since before his election.

You're being played. When you've got all the far left radical groups coming out to support you that means only one thing - your message is so far radical left they actually agree with you.

 

[airdata]

it's not even left vs right.

Right now there's alot of right wing people who are anti government and anti occupy

The difference is that more of the #occupy people know that it doesn't matter if it's democrat or republican. The end result is the same.


All I see you doing is trying to change the subject instead of just say that you know theres all sorts of corruption going on. That's my main thing. Bush, Obama... same thing.

 

[momeNt]

it's not even left vs right.

Right now there's alot of right wing people who are anti government and anti occupy

The difference is that more of the #occupy people know that it doesn't matter if it's democrat or republican. The end result is the same.


All I see you doing is trying to change the subject instead of just say that you know theres all sorts of corruption going on. That's my main thing. Bush, Obama... same thing.

He's posted multiple times that the corruption doesn't bother him, he is wealthy, he feels secure, he loves the status quo, he loves america.

So his attacks on OWS are just to be seen as someone defending the status quo.

 

[spidey07]

it's not even left vs right.

Right now there's alot of right wing people who are anti government and anti occupy

The difference is that more of the #occupy people know that it doesn't matter if it's democrat or republican. The end result is the same.


All I see you doing is trying to change the subject instead of just say that you know theres all sorts of corruption going on. That's my main thing. Bush, Obama... same thing.

Destroying capitalism is very much a left/right thing. It's the far left/communist beliefs. And don't try to tell me it isn't an anti-capitalism movement, that's a flat out lie. And I'm not trying to change the subject at all. I've paid very close attention to these fuckers from the get go listening very closely to what they say, their signs and behavior. I know what they are, useful idiots.

I do see your point, I encourage everybody that supports the occupation of private party to vote 3rd party come november 2012, won't you do your part come election time?

You're doing what other liberals are doing, you keep saying it's about this and that (which are really just your personal beliefs) and then ignore everything else the groups are saying and doing. It's called projection.

 

[Bowfinger]

Matt Taibbi explains that it isn't about envy, for your dismissal:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...all-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025

Excellent read! Thank you. I think Taibbi did a great job of summing things up. No matter how much the nutter bubble feeds its sheep duhversions and fringe issues, OWS is first and foremost about corruption.

 

[HendrixFan]

Right, he's ignoring all the cries to forgive student loans which have been there from the very beginning. Nothing more than another liberal who wants to romanticize the protesters and project his beliefs onto them, all the while ignoring the violence, rapes, signs, statements and actions of the protesters themselves.

I take it from your response here that you didn't read the article and the evidence for his claims he provided.

 

[CPA]

So, down here in Houston, the 4th largest city in the country, OWS hasn't done anything for the last two to three weeks...that is until today, as they march downtown. Why the sudden desire of about 100 nincompoops to march in downtown Houston? Ohhhh, this is why.

So, basically, OWS Houston is only interested if they can get themselves in a photo-op with one of the biggest morons in the history of this country. LOL.

 

[spidey07]

So, down here in Houston, the 4th largest city in the country, OWS hasn't done anything for the last two to three weeks...that is until today, as they march downtown. Why the sudden desire of about 100 nincompoops to march in downtown Houston? Ohhhh, this is why.

So, basically, OWS Houston is only interested if they can get themselves in a photo-op with one of the biggest morons in the history of this country. LOL.

Tell me again this isn't a far left movement when you've got Michael Moore making his appearances. Corporations are evil! They be all corporationy, and they make money!

 

[HendrixFan]

So, basically, OWS Houston is only interested if they can get themselves in a photo-op with one of the biggest morons in the history of this country. LOL.

That is more of a commentary on Houston than the OWS you know. I've lived in Texas my entire life and been in Houston proper just once, though I've been to the Woodlands a few times.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So, down here in Houston, the 4th largest city in the country, OWS hasn't done anything for the last two to three weeks...that is until today, as they march downtown. Why the sudden desire of about 100 nincompoops to march in downtown Houston? Ohhhh, this is why.

So, basically, OWS Houston is only interested if they can get themselves in a photo-op with one of the biggest morons in the history of this country. LOL.

How many people who live in the Houston area were aware of the march? Or for that matter care about OccupyHouston or OWS?

 

[CPA]

How many people who live in the Houston area were aware of the march? Or for that matter care about OccupyHouston or OWS?

Couldn't tell you, but about three weeks ago, there was some all day protesting at the mayor's building. It lasted about a week. Then it disappeared and we heard nothing.

As another poster, maybe it is a reflection of Houston or even Texas: no income tax, low cost of living (except Austin), low union membership (who is the driving factor behind OWS), and great industries including energy, electronics and retail.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Since when does Houston care about anything?

 

[airdata]

Destroying capitalism is very much a left/right thing. It's the far left/communist beliefs. And don't try to tell me it isn't an anti-capitalism movement, that's a flat out lie. And I'm not trying to change the subject at all. I've paid very close attention to these fuckers from the get go listening very closely to what they say, their signs and behavior. I know what they are, useful idiots.

I do see your point, I encourage everybody that supports the occupation of private party to vote 3rd party come november 2012, won't you do your part come election time?

You're doing what other liberals are doing, you keep saying it's about this and that (which are really just your personal beliefs) and then ignore everything else the groups are saying and doing. It's called projection.

So are you convinced that ending corporate greed and taking money out of politics is the same as ending capitalism?

Or are you convinced that 100% of the 99% support an outright end to capitalism?

Banks going bankrupt, and then giving CEO's who obviously failed huge bonuses isn't capitalism.

Sending lobbyists to washington to bribe elected officials is not capitalism either.

Lots of rich people do pay their taxes. Lots of them are also evading taxes which is a crime, which makes them criminals.


It's been documented that the movement has been infiltrated by under cover police, and anybody under the sun w\ any sort of greivance against the government. It's a total cluster fuck.

I'm not w\ the guys holding up the kill capitalism sign. I am with the guy who is holding up the " Shit's fucked up, and bullshit' sign.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Since when does Houston care about anything?

Houstonians care about the Rockets, Texans, Astros, Dynamos, or Cougars. As well as the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo

 

[Nebor]

Couldn't tell you, but about three weeks ago, there was some all day protesting at the mayor's building. It lasted about a week. Then it disappeared and we heard nothing.

As another poster, maybe it is a reflection of Houston or even Texas: no income tax, low cost of living (except Austin), low union membership (who is the driving factor behind OWS), and great industries including energy, electronics and retail.

The Texas economy has weathered the recession astoundingly well. Public services have borne most of the brunt, with fire fighting, policing & education budgets getting hacked and slashed to make up for declining property tax revenues.

 

[JSt0rm]

The Texas economy has weathered the recession astoundingly well. Public services have borne most of the brunt, with fire fighting, policing & education budgets getting hacked and slashed to make up for declining property tax revenues.

because their economy is based on energy. Its not some political win for republicans. Texas economy is doing well because of energy.