Ocean's 11 lied. People DO get away with robberies in Vegas.

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EagleKeeper

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rivan

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Judges are elected ....
Judges can look the other way at times ....
Judges can also do favors/assist other judges ....

so will it be old boy network or throw the book and lose the key

I knew the kid of a judge in my early 20s. His dad was especially harsh on him; if my single experience with it is any guide, it'll be the latter.
 

preslove

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If figures that he's a douchebag in an Ed Hardy shirt

The story didn't say how he was caught, though. LAME!


I knew the kid of a judge in my early 20s. His dad was especially harsh on him; if my single experience with it is any guide, it'll be the latter.

Meh, that didn't include actual jail did it?

This guy will get as little time as possible. It will still probably be a lot, though, because he stole a lot of chips.
 
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wow nice.... we were talking about this when i was gambling at the bellagio. and then they caught 2x 19-year-olds at the poker room the same night i was there.... interesting.

since then they've been going on a carding spree. ive never been carded this much in vegas. not only just carded but they run my ID through machines.... jeez
 

EagleKeeper

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If figures that he's a douchebag in an Ed Hardy shirt

The story didn't say how he was caught, though. LAME!




This guy will get as little time as possible. It will still probably be a lot, though, because he stole a lot of chips.


From theLVRJ Story itself:
Anthony Michael Carleo, 29, also known as Anthony Assad, was arrested after he met undercover officers to sell high-value chips taken in the heist
 

EagleKeeper

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Coming from a POC in North LVPD is that he was trying to unload the 10K & 25K chips CHEAP.

Nothing has been said on, did he run through the low denomination chips and/or figured that after 1-2 months he could launder the high value chips?


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From mcurphy post below; the guy still had the low denomination chips available
 

Wreckem

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If figures that he's a douchebag in an Ed Hardy shirt

The story didn't say how he was caught, though. LAME!




Meh, that didn't include actual jail did it?

This guy will get as little time as possible. It will still probably be a lot, though, because he stole a lot of chips.

The least amount of time he'll be eligible is 3 years(robbery is 2-10, with a deadly weapon the judge can take on another 1-10 years, but not more than the original sentences, so 2+1, 2+2, but not 2+3 etc). Im betting he wont get 3 years. More than like 10+ since hes been implicated in two casino heists with deadly weapons. No first offense leniency here.
 
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preslove

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The least amount of time he'll be eligible is 3 years(robbery is 2-10, with a deadly weapon the judge can take on another 1-10 years, but not more than the original sentences, so 2+1, 2+2, but not 2+3 etc). Im betting he wont get 3 years. More than like 10+ since hes been implicated in two casino heists with deadly weapons. No first offense leniency here.

If his dad was in good standing, then I'm sure he would have gotten 3 years. Since his dad looks like an embarrassment who could lose his next election, he probably won't get any leniency.
 

0roo0roo

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why not go back to bellagio and gamble? Take 50k in cash, gamble for a weekend. Keep playing, exchanging (break bigger stolen chips into "real" chips), moving tables, and laundering those chips. You get 10 people involved, and you should be able to convert a lot of those chips into real money.... that of course depends on whether those chips are trackable or not...

yea well 10 people keeping their yaps shut is next to impossible. which is why conspiracies tend to fail.
 

EagleKeeper

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why not go back to bellagio and gamble? Take 50k in cash, gamble for a weekend. Keep playing, exchanging (break bigger stolen chips into "real" chips), moving tables, and laundering those chips. You get 10 people involved, and you should be able to convert a lot of those chips into real money.... that of course depends on whether those chips are trackable or not...

yea well 10 people keeping their yaps shut is next to impossible. which is why conspiracies tend to fail.
A secret is good when only one person knows it.

That idiot would have a hard time getting a couple of thousand together, let alone 10 or 50K.

How many legit ATOT (having some brains) can scrape 10K when they go to Vegas?
 

ProfJohn

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Mental note: When planning Vegas robbery only take low dollar chips that are harder to track.

If the guy had taken $100,000 in small chips he could have slowly traded them in over time and most likely got away with it, but like so many crooks he got greedy and will now pay for it.
 

Sukhoi

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While he obviously has the gun charges & basic robbery, can he actually be charged with a high level robbery? Do casino chips have any real value in regards to the law?
 

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More details about how he was captured, and what he did after the robbery:
By OSKAR GARCIA, Associated Press Oskar Garcia, Associated Press &#8211; 1 hr 44 mins ago
LAS VEGAS &#8211; The bankrupt son of a Las Vegas judge followed a crude holdup at a posh casino by racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in gambling losses and spending a week like a high roller, but got caught after trying to hawk his stolen chips online to poker players, police said Thursday.


An arrest report for the helmeted bandit, who ran out of the Bellagio hotel-casino with $1.5 million in chips during a gunpoint heist Dec. 14, said Anthony M. Carleo lost about $105,000 at the resort over the next month &#8212; including $73,000 on New Year's Eve. He stayed at least one week at the resort in late January, enjoying meals, drinks and rooms furnished by the casino.


"He likes to gamble," Las Vegas police Lt. Ray Steiber said as he described for reporters how Carleo, 29, was nabbed late Wednesday on the same casino floor from where the chips came.


Carleo wasn't armed and offered no resistance when he was taken into custody.


Police recovered $900,000 in chips of different types &#8212; the ones stolen ranged from $100 to $25,000 &#8212; and can account for $1.2 million, Steiber said.


He said police were still looking for the black motorcycle they say Carleo used to make his pre-dawn getaway. Steiber wouldn't say whether police still believe the same man robbed the Suncoast casino in northwest Las Vegas at gunpoint early Dec. 8, although police previously said the same person was suspected in both heists.


According to the arrest report, Carleo's downfall came after he tried to broker sales of the highest value chips of $25,000 through a well-known Web forum for poker players.


Using the handle "Oceanspray 25" &#8212; a reference to the beverage company because $25,000 chips are known to gamblers as "cranberries" for their color &#8212; Carleo traded e-mails and phone calls with another user who eventually led him to police, the arrest report said.


It said Carleo sold five $25,000 chips to an undercover officer, and told him he had robbed the Bellagio.


Carleo's father, Las Vegas Municipal Court Judge George Assad, issued a statement saying he and his family were "devastated and heartbroken to see my son arrested under these circumstances."


Assad said that as a working judge, he couldn't comment about "any pending legal matter as it relates to anyone, including my son."


"I can say that as a prosecutor and a judge, I have always felt people who break the law need to be held accountable," he added.


Jail records showed Carleo was being held under the name Anthony M. Assad. The name was also used in Carleo's bankruptcy filing.


Carleo is a former real estate broker and student who declared bankruptcy in Colorado in May 2009. On his bankruptcy filing, he listed among his personal belongings a .40-caliber Taurus pistol.


His bankruptcy filing said Carleo received at least $19,000 from his father over a three year period, but owed nearly $188,000 in debts. The case was closed seven months later, and the firm that represented him in that case said Thursday that it was not currently representing him.


It wasn't immediately clear whether Carleo had a lawyer.


Voting records in 2010 showed that Carleo lived at the same address as his father in Las Vegas.


His bail was set at $15,000 on felony armed robbery and burglary charges. Court spokeswoman Mary Ann Price said he was due Monday for an initial appearance in Las Vegas Justice Court.



Carleo won't be required to appear when a judge reviews the charges against him on Friday, Price said.



A police statement early Thursday said Carleo would face a drug trafficking charge. But Steiber said that officials decided not to seek that charge, but he did not specify why.



Experts and police noted after the heist that stealing $1.5 million in chips isn't like stealing $1.5 million in cash.



Chips are unique to casino properties and are generally not interchangeable, although state regulations let casino companies redeem sister properties' chips with some restrictions.



Bellagio has since replaced its $25,000 chips and announced plans to discontinue in April those designed like the ones stolen, setting a deadline for the thief to try to use them.



Steiber said investigators followed numerous tips in the case, and on Dec. 23 interviewed a Salvation Army bell ringer who tried to cash a $25,000 Bellagio chip. He told police that a man he didn't know put the chip in his pocket while he was manning a charity collection bucket.



Bellagio officials would not say whether MGM Resorts International properties, which include the posh hotel-casino on the Strip known for its fountains, are among Las Vegas casinos that embed radio frequency devices inside the tokens.



Police said it took less than three minutes for the robber to pull off the heist.



He entered the casino from Flamingo Road, strode fewer than 500 feet to a craps table, brandished the handgun at the 10 to 12 patrons and three or four dealers with chips piled on the green felt, scooped up the loot and ran.



Casino security officers didn't confront the robber, but a ceiling security video camera followed his path out the door. Police say a 911 call was placed to police while the man was still in the casino.



He was gone by the time police arrived.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bellagio_hold_up
 

ProfJohn

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I am guessing his money problems are solved for the next 5-10 years.

Maybe he can work on his gambling skills while in jail.
 

EagleKeeper

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Man that guy is stupid.

If the chips could only be used at the Bellagio , then why not party with them.

The Bellagio had him party on their money and then comped him for doing so, to boot.

This is normal when a person wins big; not steals big:hmm:
 

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What a dumbass. Those chips are worthless now. I can guarantee you the entire casino's chips were replaced with a different set within 30 minutes, rendering his worthless.

They have practiced, documented countermeasures for exactly this kind of theft.

Actually, they now have RFID tags in the chips.

They just need to deactivate that stack of chips and they are good to go.

Stupid criminal.
 

thepd7

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Mental note: When planning Vegas robbery only take low dollar chips that are harder to track.

If the guy had taken $100,000 in small chips he could have slowly traded them in over time and most likely got away with it, but like so many crooks he got greedy and will now pay for it.

He already played $105k he just sucks at gambling.


Actually, they now have RFID tags in the chips.

They just need to deactivate that stack of chips and they are good to go.

Stupid criminal.

They already had the RFID tags. It's really not that easy, have you ever worked with RFID?
 

BoomerD

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