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yh125d

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If I didn't know that most of jediyodas posts look very similar to that one, and that that one is nothing out of norm for him, I'd think he was on payroll
 

jonnyGURU

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All I can say is... My wife's PC has a Corsair VX-450 in it and her hard drive died last night. I went in to replace it this morning and going through the mess of cables was like trying to give Medusa a hair-do. That sucker's getting a modular PSU ASAP.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: yh125d
If I didn't know that most of jediyodas posts look very similar to that one, and that that one is nothing out of norm for him, I'd think he was on payroll

I can appreciate your input into this thread!! Thx
 

Quiksilver

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Whoa talk about a thread off course...
This is supposed to be about OCZ's Gold Certified PSU's not PC&P's marketing team and their FUD spreading or whether or not JediYoda's on their PC&P's payroll.
 

theAnimal

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What does the fact that PC P&C PSUs are only made using 80mm fans have to do with modularity?
 

QueBert

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I have a HX520 and love it, before it I had an Ultra X, which I loved maybe even more. I <3 modular PSU's. Ultra takes the cake with the super thin modular ATX power cable they use, it's a pain in the ass to route the full sized ATX cable of my HX.
 

MrOblivious

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
then in the same thread we have the great Paul Johnson spouting his misinformation concerning how much input the PC P&C engineers have into the manufacturing of their PSU!!
Although on some level Paul is correct -- PC Power & Cooling does NOT manufacture their own PSU`s...
Yet they have more input into the design and such that Paul would have you believe!

Then we have somebody who actually understands the issue __hollywoodlmeow says -- they use bigger heatsinks and smaller fans. they dont claim that a bigger fan is going to perform worse than their smaller fan somehow. almost everything i just read in this thread is just hyperbolic bull, putting words in their mouths.. they claim that their PSUs are better (in this respect) because they have clearer airflow for the larger heatsinks inside, and a powerful 80mm. nothing more... if you're going to argue about wanting a larger fan and slightly more diminutive heatsinks, then go buy another PSU. there certainly are other solid options, but you guys are going off the deep end with these accusations. oh and LOL@ the antediluvian guy...just wow.



No they don't. They simply test and then decide which OEM design to use like 99.999% of other brands. Their units are off the shelf products from Win-tact or Seasonic. The design work is all carried out by the OEM. They seem unique because Win-tact did not OEM for anyone else before in the retail N/A market and unless you liked slot machines you never really saw much from them
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: MrOblivious
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
then in the same thread we have the great Paul Johnson spouting his misinformation concerning how much input the PC P&C engineers have into the manufacturing of their PSU!!
Although on some level Paul is correct -- PC Power & Cooling does NOT manufacture their own PSU`s...
Yet they have more input into the design and such that Paul would have you believe!

Then we have somebody who actually understands the issue __hollywoodlmeow says -- they use bigger heatsinks and smaller fans. they dont claim that a bigger fan is going to perform worse than their smaller fan somehow. almost everything i just read in this thread is just hyperbolic bull, putting words in their mouths.. they claim that their PSUs are better (in this respect) because they have clearer airflow for the larger heatsinks inside, and a powerful 80mm. nothing more... if you're going to argue about wanting a larger fan and slightly more diminutive heatsinks, then go buy another PSU. there certainly are other solid options, but you guys are going off the deep end with these accusations. oh and LOL@ the antediluvian guy...just wow.



No they don't. They simply test and then decide which OEM design to use like 99.999% of other brands. Their units are off the shelf products from Win-tact or Seasonic. The design work is all carried out by the OEM. They seem unique because Win-tact did not OEM for anyone else before in the retail N/A market and unless you liked slot machines you never really saw much from them


okay whatever you say....way too funny!!
You say they don`t.....their design engineers would disagree with you...but hey that okay...we all are entitled to.....

What`s funny is I would bet you have no clue what PC Power & Cooling does and does not do!!
In fact I told one of the mods for hardforums that very same thing and instead of defending themselves because they couldn`t, they made it so I couldn`t post on hardforum.com........so once again I am going to say -- I would bet you have no clue what the engineers at PC Power & Cooling do or do not do!!

I will tell you this much....If JonnyGURU were to say exactly what you posted then credibility would abound. I would take him at his word and that would be that.

But coming from you...at best that is laughable...hahahaa

Now I will sit here and wait while everybody and their brother runs to defend you.....

pulls up and chair and a creme soda....
 

theAnimal

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You say they don`t.....their design engineers would disagree with you...but hey that okay...we all are entitled to.....
So what is it exactly that they do, since you know them so well?

What`s funny is I would bet you have no clue what PC Power & Cooling does and does not do!!
Ditto.

I will tell you this much....If JonnyGURU were to say exactly what you posted then credibility would abound. I would take him at his word and that would be that.
But since you know what it is they do why would what someone else says make you change your mind?
 

yh125d

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I love how JEDIyoda touts his "knowledge" as infallible while denouncing other persons logical statements and deductions because they're not experts. And how when people disagree with him they are "entitled to their opinions" but when he disagrees he is stating "fact", not opinion
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: theAnimal
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You say they don`t.....their design engineers would disagree with you...but hey that okay...we all are entitled to.....
So what is it exactly that they do, since you know them so well?

What`s funny is I would bet you have no clue what PC Power & Cooling does and does not do!!
Ditto.

I will tell you this much....If JonnyGURU were to say exactly what you posted then credibility would abound. I would take him at his word and that would be that.
But since you know what it is they do why would what someone else says make you change your mind?

I would not have to change my mind because I am sure Johhny and i are closer to knopwinbg what goes on.....
Now i would bet what mrOblivious said holds true for most companies......just not PC Power & Cooling and a few others..

So you putting words into my mouth??
I was addressing MrOblivious`s credibility....versus JonnyGuru`s......

When JonnyGURU speaks people listen...
\When other speak except fopr possibly Oklahoma Wolf people go huh....
 

theAnimal

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
.....their design engineers would disagree with you...
This statement implies that you know what they do, so what is it exactly that they do?

I will tell you this much....If JonnyGURU were to say exactly what you posted then credibility would abound. I would take him at his word and that would be that.
But this statement implies that there is a possibility that what you "know" may be wrong. So which is it?

I would not have to change my mind because I am sure Johhny and i are closer to knopwinbg what goes on.....
Again, since you're sure, what is it exactly that they do?

Now i would bet what mrOblivious said holds true for most companies......just not PC Power & Cooling and a few others..
Which others? And what is it that they and PC P&C do differently?

So you putting words into my mouth??
No.

I was addressing MrOblivious`s credibility....versus JonnyGuru`s......
And I was addressing yours.

When JonnyGURU speaks people listen...
\When other speak except fopr possibly Oklahoma Wolf people go huh....
So other than you and the PC P&C engineers, only Jon & Oklahoma Wolf know what they do? And what was that again exactly?

Edit: spelling
 

tomoyo

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I'd just like to mention, I've seen more than enough BS from jediyoda's posts in the past and more than enough TRUTH from Paul Johnson. His credibility will always be a million times higher than Jediyoda and his malformed english. I've never seen a single shred of information that Jediyoda has any expertice whatsoever regarding psus beyond posting a million times.

Let's listen to the people who can form coherent arguments here like Paul and Jonny.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: theAnimal
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
.....their design engineers would disagree with you...
This statement implies that you know what they do, so what is it exactly that they do?

I will tell you this much....If JonnyGURU were to say exactly what you posted then credibility would abound. I would take him at his word and that would be that.
But this statement implies that their is a possibility that what you "know" may be wrong. So which is it?

I would not have to change my mind because I am sure Johhny and i are closer to knopwinbg what goes on.....
Again, since you're sure, what is it exactly that they do?

Now i would bet what mrOblivious said holds true for most companies......just not PC Power & Cooling and a few others..
Which others? And what is it that they and PC P&C do differently?

So you putting words into my mouth??
No.

I was addressing MrOblivious`s credibility....versus JonnyGuru`s......
And I was addressing yours.

When JonnyGURU speaks people listen...
\When other speak except fopr possibly Oklahoma Wolf people go huh....
So other than you and the PC P&C engineers, only Jon & Oklahoma Wolf know what they do? And what was that again exactly?

So what exactly do you know about the process Aminal??
Or do you have a clue????
 

theAnimal

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So what exactly do you know about the process Aminal??
I already asked you that, so you first. We're all waiting with bated breath.

Or do you have a clue????
Never said I did. I believe that was you.
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
When JonnyGURU speaks people listen...

Then listen to this: Try to stay on topic and everyone please stop the arguing. I'm getting a headache.
 
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New Egg has all four of the gold models up for sale: Link

OCZ is apart of PC & P cooling right? If so, that may mean good news for me as I've been waiting for a low noise/ripple modular PSU like the PC & P models
 

WaitingForNehalem

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
New Egg has all four of the gold models up for sale: Link

OCZ is apart of PC & P cooling right? If so, that may mean good news for me as I've been waiting for a low noise/ripple modular PSU like the PC & P models

Other way around. BTW, I already linked two posts above .
 

Beanie46

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN


OCZ is apart of PC & P cooling right? If so, that may mean good news for me as I've been waiting for a low noise/ripple modular PSU like the PC & P models

As noted before, PCP&C is part of OCZ, not the other way around.

In HardOCP's testing of the ModXStream 700W Pro, which struggled in load testing, was found to have included with the power supply a PC Power & Cooling generated test report of the unit. But in the end, the report was found to be worthless, esp. after talking to Doug Dodson, CEO/founder of PCP&C about that.......he was quoted as saying:

"It's (the ModXStream Pro 700W) not a PC Power & Cooling unit it is an OCZ unit" and "OCZ's thing is more consumer oriented and designed for room temperature conditions."

And as Paul noted in the review:

"If OCZ units are not going to be held to the same standard as PC Power & Cooling, fine (it is in my opinion a bad business decision to put out an inferior product though,) but at the very least don't include a ?PC Power & Cooling? branded hallmark item to bolster this unit as at the very least it seems to imply PC Power & Cooling quality in a unit that is far from it."


The upshot is, don't count on anything near PCP&C's quality from any OCZ branded power supply. The OEMs that OCZ uses are nowhere near as good as the ones PCP&C use for their power supplies and OCZ's power supplies are not held to standards of build and performance quality anywhere near what PCP&C's units are. And don't read anything into OCZ getting Gold certification on their power supplies; efficiency ratings are NOT an indication of build or performance quality.
 
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