Roger Wilco
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This narrative isn't going away either. Trump has been shot, nominated a VP, and held a convention and Biden needing to drop out is still the number one topic of conversation.
Yeah there is no page turning here. He'll be stuck with the questions about his fitness and now if his own party would not rather see him dead than topping the ticket.
This candidacy is all but finished.
- Since the Dems clearly don't have the strategic/logistical oomph to even get their guy to leave, I really hope they take a W when they see one and just move Harris to the top of the ticket. If they jettison both Harris and Biden I have no confidence the DNC will be able to get whatever bum ticket they drag in to even make it onto half the state ballots.Yeah there is no page turning here. He'll be stuck with the questions about his fitness and now if his own party would not rather see him dead than topping the ticket.
This candidacy is all but finished.
Do you honestly think Biden can win but Harris can't? Right now Biden's election path are people that will never vote for Trump. He is not going to get anyone to break towards him, which is why Hillary lost in 2016, late deciders overwhelming broke to Trump.
I honestly think party infighting that would result in the outing of the head of the party after that candidate has already won the primary and the presidency once, is pretty fucking stupid politics. Having half your party publicly say you should step down when the voters have already decided is a pretty ballsy move with no upsides, especially considering how bad the polling is and how close to the margin of error the current polls show any movement.
But hey, if the billionaire donors are jumping ship, then who am I, a regular guy, to say what’s the right thing to do, after all, the rich are never wrong./eye roll
Finit.Yeah there is no page turning here. He'll be stuck with the questions about his fitness and now if his own party would not rather see him dead than topping the ticket.
This candidacy is all but finished.
I honestly think party infighting that would result in the outing of the head of the party after that candidate has already won the primary and the presidency once, is pretty fucking stupid politics. Having half your party publicly say you should step down when the voters have already decided is a pretty ballsy move with no upsides, especially considering how bad the polling is and how close to the margin of error the current polls show any movement.
But hey, if the billionaire donors are jumping ship, then who am I, a regular guy, to say what’s the right thing to do, after all, the rich are never wrong./eye roll
I've got a gun and I think Kamala is just keen.They don't like Kamala for whatever reason.
If they drop Harris they may as well drop the whole thing. You're gonna just abandon 10-15% of a sure fire voting base to such an overt betrayal? Bananas.- Since the Dems clearly don't have the strategic/logistical oomph to even get their guy to leave, I really hope they take a W when they see one and just move Harris to the top of the ticket. If they jettison both Harris and Biden I have no confidence the DNC will be able to get whatever bum ticket they drag in to even make it onto half the state ballots.
Better start coaching the shit outta Harris right now on public speaking. She just needs to lower the register of her voice a smidge and stop with the nervous girlish giggle crap and always be on the offensive (SO EASY RIGHT NOW, I MEAN COME ON!) and she'd be fine.
The upside is you have a candidate that can actually campaign as opposed a Weekend at Bernie's candidate. I agree the infighting looks like shit, Biden should've dropped when it became clear he wasn't up for a campaign. Or he should've done what he agreed to do and not run for a second termI honestly think party infighting that would result in the outing of the head of the party after that candidate has already won the primary and the presidency once, is pretty fucking stupid politics. Having half your party publicly say you should step down when the voters have already decided is a pretty ballsy move with no upsides, especially considering how bad the polling is and how close to the margin of error the current polls show any movement.
But hey, if the billionaire donors are jumping ship, then who am I, a regular guy, to say what’s the right thing to do, after all, the rich are never wrong./eye roll
- TBF voters were not aware that Biden was apparently the drooling trainwreck the right was accusing him of being at the time of the primary. If debate Biden won the primary then fair point, but the only reason this is a massive shit show now is because IT IS COMING AS A SHOCK.
Frankly it sounds like Biden has been under lock and key and much of HIS OWN PARTY didn't seem to be aware of the extent of the issue.
Hell even Harris sort of laughed off the question of whether Biden was like this on a daily basis instead of just saying "no" in a post debate interview. If his party knew they would have likely been working this whole thing behind the scenes and much sooner.
I see Jill Biden doing a fundraiser in Paris.Mad boy mad boy watcha gonna do
watcha gonna do when donations dry up for you?
The campaign believes that they can make up those donations with grassroots fund raising. With Musk giving the RNC $45M a month they won't be able to come close to matching it without big donors.
The upside is you have a candidate that can actually campaign as opposed a Weekend at Bernie's candidate. I agree the infighting looks like shit, Biden should've dropped when it became clear he wasn't up for a campaign. Or he should've done what he agreed to do and not run for a second term
I've never seen a debate where a candidate did that bad. In a follow-up interview, he told ABC that he was fine losing to a person who's supposed to be a threat to democracy if he did his goodest job.I’ve never seen a single candidate, ever, who won the nomination drop out after having a bad debate. The fact that you think Biden was drooling goes to show how good anti Biden propaganda is.
But but but, the whole idea is to fuck ourselves. Biden picked her and he's a disaster.If they drop Harris they may as well drop the whole thing. You're gonna just abandon 10-15% of a sure fire voting base to such an overt betrayal? Bananas.
I've never seen a debate where a candidate did that bad. In a follow-up interview, he told ABC that he was fine losing to a person who's supposed to be a threat to democracy if he did his goodest job.
It seems like every time they put him out there for interviews he complains about Trumps lies whenever asked about his health. You can tell when he's upset - he says "look" and proceeds to forget what he was talking about.
Sure post an interview that he has done in the last month that doesn't have multiple "WTF is he talking about" moments. Even better if he actually makes a good and effective case against Trump or for himself.Biden can and has been campaigning just fine. Again, more anti Biden propaganda.
I'll agree Biden is slipping, but if you listen to one of Trump's speeches it's completely off the rails. Only difference is Trump is loud and continues rambling.Sure post an interview that has done in the last month that doesn't have multiple "WTF is he talking about" moments. Even better if he actually makes a good and effective case against Trump or for himself.
Acting like that debate was at all similar to other pool debates is just denialism. I was very pro Biden and I had to turn it off and felt sick afterwards. If he had come out and knocked it out of the park afterwards, everyone would've moved on, but he hasn't.
It is a very annoying thing that speaking absolute gibberish confidently is viewed as fine.I'll agree Biden is slipping, but if you listen to one of Trump's speeches it's completely off the rails. Only difference is Trump is loud and continues rambling.
I was surprised at how Biden was unable to recover from that debate and it changed my mind, it seems like he might be genuinely infirm despite his A+ performance as president.
Yes, Trump is a narcissistic psychopath, and he's also lost a step. But aside from his falling asleep at his own criminal trial and occasional nonsensical mumbling, you can't accuse him of looking catatonic during an important speaking engagement. Although I refuse to listen to the motherfucker, his ability to ramble for an hour is a skill and manna for the MAGAts.I'll agree Biden is slipping, but if you listen to one of Trump's speeches it's completely off the rails. Only difference is Trump is loud and continues rambling.