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Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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We have somebody in the race that is determined to win and we are determined to make it impossible for him to do that. I say that's brilliant.

It's no wonder liberals fear guns.

Looking at you MrSquished.
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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It is a very annoying thing that speaking absolute gibberish confidently is viewed as fine.

I was surprised at how Biden was unable to recover from that debate and it changed my mind, it seems like he might be genuinely infirm despite his A+ performance as president.

The difference is Democrats care about the qualities of their nominee. Trump’s brain is clearly pudding but republicans don’t care about governing so it’s irrelevant.

It's not what you say, it's how you say it!
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I think the billionaire donors decided they want their 15% corporate Trump tax cut

QFT.

Very underrated comment.

And despite what the media and squishy says.. if we do it their way.. Trump and the billionaire class would win.

We can't afford to be stupid and doing it that way!

 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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I think the billionaire donors decided they want their 15% corporate Trump tax cut
NOOOOOO

The Trump GOP is all about populism and helping the little guy against the evil elites.

Insert "We told them it would trickle down" meme here.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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To be crystal clear, we aren't abandoning Joe Biden because he's lost a step or even two. I've said I'll still roll with Joe if that's the final decision; but everyone is jumping off the Biden train because there's no confidence that he can win. That's the bottom line, not what his clinical diagnosis might be.
About that diagnosis....

Democrat Declares Biden Is ‘Flickering,’ Recalls ‘Mentor and Friend’ Not Recognizing Him at Recent Event

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) claimed in a new op-ed that President Joe Biden, a “mentor and friend,” seemed to not recognize him at a recent event.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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Grandpa has dug in with bunker mentality. I think this situation has pretty much ensured a 2nd Trump term but I hope I'm wrong.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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What a fucking selfish, egotistical jackass to hold a party, and by extension, the country, hostage like this. Everytime I think this nightmare is over, this now lunatic man and his crew keep extending the horror show we are in.

Literally the worst presidential candidate in my lifetime - Joe Fucking Biden.
 
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uclaLabrat

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I've never seen a debate where a candidate did that bad. In a follow-up interview, he told ABC that he was fine losing to a person who's supposed to be a threat to democracy if he did his goodest job.

It seems like every time they put him out there for interviews he complains about Trumps lies whenever asked about his health. You can tell when he's upset - he says "look" and proceeds to forget what he was talking about.
Hilariously enough, biden didn't "lose" the debate as Trump lied about everything. If you think Trump won then you gave zero fucks abojt the substance and you want a geriatric bikini contest. Thanks for being part of the problem.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I've never seen a debate where a candidate did that bad. In a follow-up interview, he told ABC that he was fine losing to a person who's supposed to be a threat to democracy if he did his goodest job.

It seems like every time they put him out there for interviews he complains about Trumps lies whenever asked about his health. You can tell when he's upset - he says "look" and proceeds to forget what he was talking about.

It wasn't a debate. It was basically a prelude to war. In war the first casualty is the truth.

But Seal Team 6 would have won if you wanna go down that road.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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What a fucking selfish, egotistical jackass to hold a party, and by extension, the country, hostage like this. Everytime I think this nightmare is over, this now lunatic man and his crew keep extending the horror show we are in.

Literally the worst presidential candidate in my lifetime - Joe Fucking Biden.

You're so sad. Why don't you go cry some more in a corner?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Then vote for Trump! And enjoy the war that comes afterwards!

You should be in a clown car with some of the other Biden wackos in here like @ivwshane spouting total conspiracy theorist cultist nonsense, headed down to the crazy town Biden Bunker in Delaware where reality doesn't exist much, and help them avoid reality even more, though it doesn't seem they need much help with that.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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You should be in a clown car with some of the other Biden wackos in here like @ivwshane spouting total conspiracy theorist cultist nonsense, headed down to the crazy town Biden Bunker in Delaware where reality doesn't exist much, and help them avoid reality even more, though it doesn't seem they need much help with that.

Happy to be there!
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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The primary thing I see on Threads, which is a haven for Democrats/progressives, that there is this core group of conspiracy theory driven lunatics who have some of these things amplified by popular accounts, that this entire thing is a media stunt driven narrative and most importantly, it's just the billionaire donors that want Biden gone, the vast majority of Dems really want Biden. If you post contrary polls that show Biden's lack of popularity in his own party before he ran and now, they often block you. And this is polite posting of polls too. It's all an elite driven fake narrative to them.

Then it's they are insistent we had a totally open primary where anybody could have challenged Biden, but they simply chose not too. It was a fair and square competitive primary. No matter how you put it they don't care. I literally voted for Biden in the primary because I was there to vote for downballot races that mattered. And so were a lot of people. We didn't really want Biden, but we were supporting our party against Trump.

They also continue to say it was one bad debate performance. That's it, other than that, people are overreacting. How can we abandon this guy after just one simply bad performance?

These people are very similar to MAGA when it relates to cultism over one person, in the sense they are totally denying reality, everything contrary to their view of Biden is a conspiracy theory, they just block if the evidence doesn't agree with them. It goes to show you, give people an echo chamber and they will go nutso.

In regards to what most of these people want for the country - it is good stuff, not the evil of MAGA. But on this level, on this topic, they are eerily close.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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The primary thing I see on Threads, which is a haven for Democrats/progressives, that there is this core group of conspiracy theory driven lunatics who have some of these things amplified by popular accounts, that this entire thing is a media stunt driven narrative and most importantly, it's just the billionaire donors that want Biden gone, the vast majority of Dems really want Biden. If you post contrary polls that show Biden's lack of popularity in his own party before he ran and now, they often block you. And this is polite posting of polls too. It's all an elite driven fake narrative to them.

Then it's they are insistent we had a totally open primary where anybody could have challenged Biden, but they simply chose not too. It was a fair and square competitive primary. No matter how you put it they don't care. I literally voted for Biden in the primary because I was there to vote for downballot races that mattered. And so were a lot of people. We didn't really want Biden, but we were supporting our party against Trump.

They also continue to say it was one bad debate performance. That's it, other than that, people are overreacting. How can we abandon this guy after just one simply bad performance?

These people are very similar to MAGA when it relates to cultism over one person, in the sense they are totally denying reality, everything contrary to their view of Biden is a conspiracy theory, they just block if the evidence doesn't agree with them. It goes to show you, give people an echo chamber and they will go nutso.

In regards to what most of these people want for the country - it is good stuff, not the evil of MAGA. But on this level, on this topic, they are eerily close.

I can make a poll right now saying we live on Neptune not Earth.

Polls and campaign money donations mean shit as 2016 showed us. Hillary led by tons in both! Guess who won?

But that was due to people voting for Trump even though they supposedly don't like him but they hated Hillary more. Are you willing to do the same for Biden?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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The democrats either need to do it, or STFU about it.

It’s not happening which is why a certain someone is having a complete meltdown.

Now that this is over we can get back to what’s important, beating Trump and saving our democracy
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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I can make a poll right now saying we live on Neptune not Earth.

Polls and campaign money donations mean shit as 2016 showed us. Hillary led by tons in both! Guess who won?

But that was due to people voting for Trump even though they supposedly don't like him but they hated Hillary more. Are you willing to do the same for Biden?
It seems to me that all this agonizing over ‘Biden, not Biden’ is hopelessly absurd because we cannot actually know the degree to which Biden’s aging have truly affected his competence. We are grasping at straws and hanging on every word the so called political pundits and associates or people in closer contact with him report about him.

Ultimately there is a truth to whether he is fit or unfit and he himself, I believe, will make come to an honest appraisal of that in the end.

There is another truth too, in my opinion, that all the Democrats agonizing over their own assessment of that will be the real straw that broke the camel’s back.

Regardless of what happens I will be voting Democrat and I suspect other Democrats will be doing the same.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
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The democrats either need to do it, or STFU about it.
The Democrats can't make Biden become sane and reasonable.

He has to be willing to make a speech stepping aside and passing the torch to Kamala. We can't make a demented old man do the right thing.

If his crazy ass wants to take this to the convention, it's going to be a shit show.

But as you see he does have his cultists. They are the minority but they are fucking loud and crazy. His inner circle is very small and they are even crazier.
 
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