Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

[MrSquished]

There is still that strong contingent on Threads that are in the Biden cult, but I've seen a lot more pushback against their gaslighting arguments being posted. Some big accounts are in the Biden cult. George Conway, Molly Jong Fast, and a couple others. Here's a good pushback against the Biden fanatic misinformation:

Seth Reeves (@reth_seeves) on Threads

Re: the Biden-Remain crowd’s claim that replacing him would be a nullification of the 14 million pro-Biden primary votes: 1. That was not a primary in any meaningful sense. There were no serious challengers with resources and momentum behind them. It was a pro forma coronation, not some apex of...

www.threads.net

 

[K1052]

I have started to get pro-Kamala texts and fundraising requests. This is not going away.

 

[manly]

I find it rather incredulous that people in the party "didn't know" about Biden and the age issue. His age has been a prominent issue for a long time, and his gaffs have been an issue since time immemorial.

As @Zorba asked yesterday, did you actually watch the debate? Have you ever seen Joe Biden perform in that fashion? His career of gaffes* is in no way comparable. To some degree, age is just a number (a typical 81-year-old Japanese person is probably fairly healthy), but what we saw that night caused incredible damage to his campaign. I wasn't one to immediately call for Joe to step aside, but I can understand the media frenzy. Even if you think the media shitstorm is completely unfair, that doesn't change the disastrous effects of that unfairness.

It's become more clear since the debate that Joe Biden has been "stage-managed" to a large degree over the past 12 months, and that concealed his cognitive decline. I still feel debate night was atypical and despite his increasing senior moments, he's still mostly up to an incredibly difficult job. If you're not part of his inner circle and are claiming to have known his condition for years, that's a bullshit MAGA talking point. I don't believe Dem lawmakers were lying whenever they said the president they've interacted with was still dialed in and highly capable of doing the job.

* There are gaffes and there are gaffes. At the NATO conference where everyone is watching intensely to see where he's at, he introduces Zelensky as President Putin? Corrected himself, but later referred to VP Harris as Trump? I don't care when he mistakenly referred to the president of Egypt as that of Mexico, but the recent stumbles are not normal Joe Biden gaffes.

Whether that justifies upending the ticket at the 10th hour is a different debate, and I do agree with you that there is no white knight to swoop in and save us.

 

[MrSquished]

Whether that justifies upending the ticket at the 10th hour is a different debate, and I do agree with you that there is no white knight to swoop in and save us.

well that's because it's a she, and she's not white, she's half African American and Half Asian American.

Nobody can be a white knight figure now anyway, not enough time in the world, and she is a solid candidate and would revive this campaign that's dead in the water right now, for good reason. She is the only one, thus, she is our knight right now.

 

[MrSquished]

Out of the middle of a thread from Costa that's worth reading. That somebody can so massively misjudge their political situation and viability calls into question all their decision making. He's been wrong at basically every turn. He thought he could ignore the private asks to drop out without consequences and is now facing visible rebellion in his own party because he didn't listen. He just thinks everybody should STFU and let him do what he wants.

If he wants open combat he is very likely going to be accommodated this week.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814664144773091661

Yes, at this point it's not a misjudgement of anything - it's a massive ego, exceptional arrogance, and delusion based.

Joe Biden's negatives have always been bad and have just worsened, and the consensus now is we need a candidate that can go out there and really campaign, and really communicate, and look alive and vibrant - all these things equal inspiration - inspire an electorate that needs it - people aren't rational, I mean people, have you seen people in action? I remember getting shit on by some folks for insisting we need a more inspiring candidate than Biden. These people insisted it was just about an easy choice, policy would drive a logic and rational electorate and we needed nothing more. That is an exception to the rule. And especially in really dark times, people need to be inspired. This is part of the human condition and has been - you can't escape this. It's politics 101.

Kamala will be our candidate, and if not, we are fucked. Joe Biden is literally right now the main guy helping Trump win. He is literally standing in the way by refusing to do the most obvious thing in the world. He is our biggest problem in this country outside of Trump, at this moment.

 

[Moonbeam]

What a pity that egotistical Biden won't drop out of the race against the world's greatest narcissist. Haha!

 

[K1052]

Dem donors kicking the tires on VPs.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814749306781638857

 

[K1052]

Whether that justifies upending the ticket at the 10th hour is a different debate, and I do agree with you that there is no white knight to swoop in and save us.

The D leadership, deciding that their elections are under threat now, have burned the boats. The question of if it is a good idea or not to replace him is basically moot at this point.

There is no going back for them and it's going to get ugly.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

What a pity that egotistical Biden won't drop out of the race against the world's greatest narcissist. Haha!

Yup, irony is dead and the meek killed it.

 

[trenchfoot]

Amazing how one night's debate can set off a fast moving unstoppable blazing forest fire in the Democrat ranks. I can see where there already were quite a few never-Bidens in the upper tiers of the party's caucus, waiting for a chance to capitalize on their anti-Biden agenda and Biden gave it to them on a platinum platter, where convincing the undecided's to dump Biden became a whole lot easier. Changing my vote to 50% from 0% leaning more and more toward a higher number. So sad such a solid administrator, exemplary defender of democracy and a stout rampart of the party may have to go out this way.

 

[Wreckem]

Amazing how one night's debate can set off a fast moving unstoppable blazing forest fire in the Democrat ranks. I can see where there already were quite a few never-Bidens in the upper tiers of the party's caucus, waiting for a chance to capitalize on their anti-Biden agenda and Biden gave it to them on a platinum platter, where convincing the undecided's to dump Biden became a whole lot easier. Changing my vote to 50% from 0% leaning more and more toward a higher number. So sad such a solid administrator, exemplary defender of democracy and a stout rampart of the party may have to go out this way.

He’s not capable of fulfilling the role of President for the next four years. He should never have ran for reelection and always should have been a one term President.

That’s really the problem with the Democrats. Their top leaders get to big of egos and hold on to office way longer than they should which leads to devastating consequences.

At this point it’s an ego issue. If it’s a legacy issue the only way to protect his legacy is to bow out as gracefully as possible or his legacy will be the RBG. Which is stayed to long because of ego and doing so caused irreparable harm to the country.

 

[MrSquished]

What a pity that egotistical Biden won't drop out of the race against the world's greatest narcissist. Haha!

It is quite ironic. The greatest threat to this country is the narcissist Trump. The one thing standing in the way of trump is the Democratic nominee that's on the ballot this fall.

Biden was never a good candidate and now that the truth they were hiding is fully revealed he has a terrible candidate. Thus the only thing standing in our way after Trump is our own nominee which we can control. And that man's ego and his circles shadiness is what standing in our way right now. We could have a strong nominee right now. Today. Just Biden is standing in our way

 

[trenchfoot]

What a pity that egotistical Biden won't drop out of the race against the world's greatest narcissist. Haha!

From a logical and practical point of view, I find it absolutely incredulous that Trump still has any chance at all. From reality's point of view I still find it inconceivable that a party's choice for the presidency has so much politically damaging baggage being dragged behind him yet is being hailed as God's gift to the nation and the world. He's got one of the nation's most influential conservatively biased fundamentalist demographic committing blasphemy and outright sacrilege writ large in order to endorse a known felon, sex offender and inciter of an insurrection fer cry'in out loud. I mean, what can Trump possibly do that will have those politically corrupted religious organizations from withdrawing their support of him? Seems like nothing will trigger it from happening seeing as if he's already proven beyond all hope and doubt how irrefutably ungodly he is.

 

[MrSquished]

From a logical and practical point of view, I find it absolutely incredulous that Trump still has any chance at all. From reality's point of view I still find it inconceivable that a party's choice for the presidency has so much politically damaging baggage being dragged behind him yet is being hailed as God's gift to the nation and the world. He's got one of the nation's most influential conservatively biased fundamentalist demographic committing blasphemy and outright sacrilege writ large in order to endorse a known felon, sex offender and inciter of an insurrection fer cry'in out loud. I mean, what can Trump possibly do that will have those politically corrupted religious organizations from withdrawing their support of him? Seems like nothing will trigger it from happening seeing as if he's already proven beyond all hope and doubt how irrefutably ungodly he is.

Actually I would argue from a logical perspective Trump being in the race makes complete sense. Just open the history book it's littered with absolutely shitty narcissist authoritarian racist religious fascist leaders gaining power through movements . We're not just coconuts that just fell off the tree, this is all in context of History and also with some new factors mixed in this is a tale as old as time.

But America does have enough inside of her to reject Trump. Unfortunately the Democrats haven't provided the correct candidate to make sure it's definitely done .But we can fix that

 

[gothuevos]

I have started to get pro-Kamala texts and fundraising requests. This is not going away.

Eventually it will have to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814710624234185220

 

[FelixDeCat]

What a pity that egotistical Biden won't drop out of the race against the world's greatest narcissist. Haha!

The problem is Uncle Joe thinks he is Uncle Sam. He wants YOU to vote for him. He wont hand it over to "Aunt" Kamala. I guess he knows she has no chance.*

*=Even though he picked her!

 

[dlerious]

Hilariously enough, biden didn't "lose" the debate as Trump lied about everything. If you think Trump won then you gave zero fucks abojt the substance and you want a geriatric bikini contest. Thanks for being part of the problem.

What substance? His beating of Medicare? I don't care about Trump, he was never going to get my vote. I'm also not going to vote for someone who can't remember things - Asked in his ABC interview if he watched the debate afterwards, he couldn't remember - a week later.

 

[MrSquished]

The problem is Uncle Joe thinks he is Uncle Sam. He wants YOU to vote for him. He wont hand it over to "Aunt" Kamala. I guess he knows she has no chance.*

*=Even though he picked her!

If Kamala is the candidate within two weeks with a solid VP, I will take that bet. Friendly wager, $100. As long as those two pieces are in place.

 

[MrSquished]

Seriously, from threads:

"I just saw a Democrat say "it's 2016 all over again" then double down their support of Biden like 🤦🏻 you clearly learned nothing from 2016 😂"

 

[Moonbeam]

It is quite ironic. The greatest threat to this country is the narcissist Trump. The one thing standing in the way of trump is the Democratic nominee that's on the ballot this fall.

Biden was never a good candidate and now that the truth they were hiding is fully revealed he has a terrible candidate. Thus the only thing standing in our way after Trump is our own nominee which we can control. And that man's ego and his circles shadiness is what standing in our way right now. We could have a strong nominee right now. Today. Just Biden is standing in our way

I know it is useless to talk to you because of your ego but I will tell you what I see anyway. "Everything in your post." It is your opinion. Nothing about you having an opinion makes what you say a fact. It is your ego that prevents you from seeing that. The fact is you know nothing except for the fact that you are stuffed full of opinions that you do. As a Zen Master might say. No wisdom can be poured into your tea cup because yours is all ready full, full because of your fear of uncertainty and doubt. You are inwardly insecure, fear of unconscious repressed traumatic events that your certainty is there to protect you from feeling. You are profoundly spiritually ignorant. For you everything looks like a competitive threat, my words here only intended to knock you down.

I don't want to knock you down. You were knocked down long ago and are lying flat on the floor. I am holding a mirror revealing that fact. I am not your enemy, you are.

What you did do was panic at the first signs of trouble ahead. One buffalo gets stung in the ass by a wasp and the next moment there's a stampede. Sadly the was that stung your ass was a product of fear and imagination and the herd has grown so large that even if it turns out that Biden is fit enough to do the job and is still capable of pulling off a victory he may be preempted from getting that chance thanks to people like you.

I am not saying Biden is OK. I'm saying that I don't know and that having a stupid opinion about it is dangerous. Of course, nothing you think or believe could ever be stupid.

These words were given to you by a nobody who does not know anything.

 

[MrSquished]

I know it is useless to talk to you because of your ego but I will tell you what I see anyway. "Everything in your post." It is your opinion. Nothing about you having an opinion makes what you say a fact. It is your ego that prevents you from seeing that. The fact is you know nothing except for the fact that you are stuffed full of opinions that you do. As a Zen Master might say. No wisdom can be poured into your tea cup because yours is all ready full, full because of your fear of uncertainty and doubt. You are inwardly insecure, fear of unconscious repressed traumatic events that your certainty is there to protect you from feeling. You are profoundly spiritually ignorant. For you everything looks like a competitive threat, my words here only intended to knock you down.

I don't want to knock you down. You were knocked down long ago and are lying flat on the floor. I am holding a mirror revealing that fact. I am not your enemy, you are.

What you did do was panic at the first signs of trouble ahead. One buffalo gets stung in the ass by a wasp and the next moment there's a stampede. Sadly the was that stung your ass was a product of fear and imagination and the herd has grown so large that even if it turns out that Biden is fit enough to do the job and is still capable of pulling off a victory he may be preempted from getting that chance thanks to people like you.

I am not saying Biden is OK. I'm saying that I don't know and that having a stupid opinion about it is dangerous. Of course, nothing you think or believe could ever be stupid.

These words were given to you by a nobody who does not know anything.

It's not just my opinion, there are measurable metrics for this. His polling against Trump, his polling lagging behind D Senators in various swing states, a huge tell. The fact a majority of his own party wants him to drop out, more polling data - we also all have eyes and ears and we aren't gaslighting ourselves, like a loud but minority contingent of Dems are. Also, some of our most successful politicians who have really helped the Democratic party a ton over the years, also see the same things as myself and other just regular folk are - from Pelosi to Obama to Jeffries and many more. The fact the Trump party wants him to stay in, another metric. And so forth. You think political campaigns happen in a vacuum with no metrics? Nein.

I know you like to do your psychobabble stuff but, anyways, it's just not relevant.

 

[Moonbeam]

The problem is Uncle Joe thinks he is Uncle Sam. He wants YOU to vote for him. He wont hand it over to "Aunt" Kamala. I guess he knows she has no chance.*

*=Even though he picked her!

He picked her is the only fact that I see in your post and assuming it's obviously true that every politician wants me to vote for them, making that point irrelevant. Here's how my thinking works:

"The problem is Uncle Joe thinks he is Uncle Sam."

I do not know that and since I don't know that and it presumes clairvoyant abilities I doubt you have, I think you don't know what he thinks any better than I do which is that I have no idea if he thinks he's Uncle Sam." You, Like MrSquished think you know things and you can't see that you don't because you have not experienced the awful agony of realization that all your sacred cows are meaningless. You are hanging on for dear life because you think death awaits you if you let go and fall into the abyss. What you will fall into is the joy of being.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's not just my opinion, there are measurable metrics for this. His polling against Trump, his polling lagging behind D Senators in various swing states, a huge tell. The fact a majority of his own party wants him to drop out, more polling data - we also all have eyes and ears and we aren't gaslighting ourselves, like a loud but minority contingent of Dems are. Also, some of our most successful politicians who have really helped the Democratic party a ton over the years, also see the same things as myself and other just regular folk are - from Pelosi to Obama to Jeffries and many more. The fact the Trump party wants him to stay in, another metric. And so forth. You think political campaigns happen in a vacuum with no metrics? Nein.

I know you like to do your psychobabble stuff but, anyways, it's just not relevant.

All that psychobabble was to tell you why you would find it irrelevant. My first words were that it would be useless to talk to you. It's OK.

PS: I enjoy your posts.

 

[MrSquished]

He picked her is the only fact that I see in your post and assuming it's obviously true that every politician wants me to vote for them, making that point irrelevant. Here's how my thinking works:

"The problem is Uncle Joe thinks he is Uncle Sam."

I do not know that and since I don't know that and it presumes clairvoyant abilities I doubt you have, I think you don't know what he thinks any better than I do which is that I have no idea if he thinks he's Uncle Sam." You, Like MrSquished think you know things and you can't see that you don't because you have not experienced the awful agony of realization that all your sacred cows are meaningless. You are hanging on for dear life because you think death awaits you if you let go and fall into the abyss. What you will fall into is the joy of being.

Felix is just a blathering idiot we all know this.

anyway, you may not like my approach to things, which I can respect, I can be abrasive and emotional, but outside of that, my political analysis skills are generally very good. I'll try to wrap it in a kinder, gentler ribbon going forward, perhaps my message is not getting through due to the method of messaging sometimes, but, I have a high ratio of correct vs non-correct in regards to politics. So to say I'm anything like Felix is insulting anyway, but especially insulting based on these facts. I have my weaknesses and skills in life like all of us do. This just happens to be a strength of mine.

 

[Moonbeam]

From a logical and practical point of view, I find it absolutely incredulous that Trump still has any chance at all. From reality's point of view I still find it inconceivable that a party's choice for the presidency has so much politically damaging baggage being dragged behind him yet is being hailed as God's gift to the nation and the world. He's got one of the nation's most influential conservatively biased fundamentalist demographic committing blasphemy and outright sacrilege writ large in order to endorse a known felon, sex offender and inciter of an insurrection fer cry'in out loud. I mean, what can Trump possibly do that will have those politically corrupted religious organizations from withdrawing their support of him? Seems like nothing will trigger it from happening seeing as if he's already proven beyond all hope and doubt how irrefutably ungodly he is.

When buffalo see a threat that is palpable and real the males may form a ring of horns around cows and calfs like conservatives do around their cult leaders.