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zinfamous

No Lifer
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The reason for that is you had been saying the same thing since 2020 when it was obviously wrong. You don’t get points for predicting the same thing incorrectly for years and then eventually being correct. Thats Peter Schiff/@gothuevos territory.

"I was getting grief over brilliantly predicting that an old man is eventually going to get even older and slower! No one believed me!"

The brilliance of greenman.
 
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K1052

Elite Member
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Lichtman is a crank any anybody taking him seriously is probably a crank too.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Lichtman is a crank any anybody taking him seriously is probably a crank too.

I literally hope Biden stays in it and destroys the dems up and down the ballot! They all deserve to lose for treason!

Fuck everyone else! Taking my ball and going home!
 

Indus

Lifer
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You are literally ride or die on Biden?
But why?

Do you hate his VP that much?

We've gotten used to Trump's theatricality and deception but we've not paid attention the DNC's theatricality and deception.

They're corrupt to the core and also the flip side of the republicans. Biden is the most progressive president in a 100 years.. their donors don't like it and when they shout jump, the dnc goes how high?

The reason I can see through this is I'm a New Yorker. Look at what Adams did.. calling out crime and failings and ofcourse the poll numbers on safety changed. It was manufactured!

All effort should have been on uniting the party instead of what we're currently doing. I certainly won't be voting for Trump.

Instead I'll be voting for Joe or Bernie or AOC or a complete outsider.. basically people who stuck to their principles when the chips were down.

And no I don't hate Kam but actions have consequences. Kam didn't defend Biden after the bad debate.. she lost my vote for that inaction alone!
 

K1052

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What are the odds that a bunch of D house and senate candidates want to risk losing their elections over mostly imagined grevicences from Hunter and Joe Biden about how Obama treated him? I think there is a lull right now to see what he'll do as he's due back in DC today. Absent any action it's gonna get hot and fast.

 
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Maxima1

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And to think it only took you about half a decade of wrongly saying the same thing before it came true!

It’s sort of funny, for the last five years it’s been like:

Conservatives in 2020 - Biden’s brain is mush, he can’t think!

(Biden easily outsmarts them)

Conservatives in 2022 - I mean it this time!

(Biden easily outsmarts them again)

Conservatives in 2024 - See?!? I was right all along!

I mean if nothing else how is this anything other than total humiliation for you guys? The guy with no brain beat you over and over again.

lmao.

How were we wrong? My mother and father in law both had dementia. From the onset it took several years for them to get to the point of being unable to form coherent sentences. My mother never stuttered or stumbled over her words, it's just that they were random. -- Greenman Feb 2022

Trump is suffering from being an asshole, though he could have dementia as well. I can't really hazard a guess as I rarely listen to him speak. -- Greenman Jul 2020

VS.

Uhmmm, if you’re referring to Trump the amount of gaffes he makes like this are several orders of magnitude more than Biden and the media barely mentions it. Forget gaffes, Trump shows significant signs of current and accelerating dementia and at times is totally incoherent yet for some reason nobody wants to discuss it. -- fskimospy Aug 2019

Trump clearly has accelerating dementia
and at this point he's largely incapable of stringing together coherent thoughts while Biden is generally a fine speaker who says dumb things sometimes. It's not an even remotely close comparison. -- fskimospy Jun 2020

The guy you claimed was incapable in 2020 had one of the most successful presidencies in modern history. You were wrong - just admit it.

You always tell people to admit they were wrong, yet never do it yourself.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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We've gotten used to Trump's theatricality and deception but we've not paid attention the DNC's theatricality and deception.

They're corrupt to the core and also the flip side of the republicans. Biden is the most progressive president in a 100 years.. their donors don't like it and when they shout jump, the dnc goes how high?

The reason I can see through this is I'm a New Yorker. Look at what Adams did.. calling out crime and failings and ofcourse the poll numbers on safety changed. It was manufactured!

All effort should have been on uniting the party instead of what we're currently doing. I certainly won't be voting for Trump.

Instead I'll be voting for Joe or Bernie or AOC or a complete outsider.. basically people who stuck to their principles when the chips were down.

And no I don't hate Kam but actions have consequences. Kam didn't defend Biden after the bad debate.. she lost my vote for that inaction alone!
You weren't watching. She most certainly did.

UR are missing the greatest point. Keep Trump out of office. If you watch a composite of Biden's blank outs he can't win the independents and soft Republican votes in swing states which is a must have.
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
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Instead I'll be voting for Joe or Bernie or AOC or a complete outsider.. basically people who stuck to their principles when the chips were down.

And no I don't hate Kam but actions have consequences. Kam didn't defend Biden after the bad debate.. she lost my vote for that inaction alone!
This was you earlier...

Life isn't fair!

If you're not voting Trump the dictator, it's time to hold your nose and vote for the guy that actually has a decent chance to pull it off and beat him.

People can complicate it, make it opaque, but it's really that simple!
 
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VRAMdemon

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lmao.

How were we wrong? My mother and father in law both had dementia. From the onset it took several years for them to get to the point of being unable to form coherent sentences. My mother never stuttered or stumbled over her words, it's just that they were random. -- Greenman Feb 2022

Trump is suffering from being an asshole, though he could have dementia as well. I can't really hazard a guess as I rarely listen to him speak. -- Greenman Jul 2020

VS.

Uhmmm, if you’re referring to Trump the amount of gaffes he makes like this are several orders of magnitude more than Biden and the media barely mentions it. Forget gaffes, Trump shows significant signs of current and accelerating dementia and at times is totally incoherent yet for some reason nobody wants to discuss it. -- fskimospy Aug 2019

Trump clearly has accelerating dementia
and at this point he's largely incapable of stringing together coherent thoughts while Biden is generally a fine speaker who says dumb things sometimes. It's not an even remotely close comparison. -- fskimospy Jun 2020



You always tell people to admit they were wrong, yet never do it yourself.

What is he wrong about? Trump gaffes and doesn't form coherent sentences more than Biden. Just watch his rallies and speeches. Trump is almost 80. His father had dementia, so there is no reason to doubt that it's not setting in due to the evidence that's right in front of your face. Trump could drop dead any minute. Trump lives on fast food garbage and rage. While he has doctors tell him he's the healthiest person on the planet. Biden is in much better physical and mental shape than Trump. Trump is a mentally ill narcissist who has no moral code. Narcissists only think of themselves and don't listen to reason and peers. A heavily flawed trait if you want to be President.

What the fuck? did you just crawl out from under a rock?
 
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VRAMdemon

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The Dems better know what they are doing here. Because it looks like a complete shitshow..

A problem with getting presidents to step down is that there is no incentive for them to do so. This is true at multiple layers of official representation, not just the presidency. Look at the stress created when Dianne Feinstein’s handlers cemented her into office. The seniority was just too valuable to give up. Nancy Pelosi is 84 years old, to name a current example. Congress is full of walking talking shambling mummies who are either selfishly enamored of their own power or who egotistically believe nobody else could serve the public in the position better than they do (or some of both), and who will have to be dragged out of office fucking kicking and screaming.

It’s intensely frustrating to see these Boomers hanging onto power long past the sell date of their experience and their ideas, totally aside from any uncertainties about their cognitive competence. This is ultimately symptomatic of fundamental structural problems with American elections and representation, specifically the dominance of money and the two-party system. Once someone gets elected, they become a magnet for contributions, especially as their tenure continues and they rise in seniority, getting more and more important committee assignments. Incumbency is profitable and is guarded as such.

Which is why it’s facile to say “the voters” are the safety valve. They’re trapped in the same broken system, re-electing incumbents over and over again, supporting their team member against the opponent using the same zero-sum calculation. Without real choice, the voters are empowered to decide precisely jack shit.

If you don’t address the underlying issues that incentivize the party elders to handcuff themselves to their desks for decades, then enforcing an age limit is just putting a tiny band-aid on a gushing arterial wound. Other existing dysfunctions will persist, and new dysfunctions will arise, while you pat yourself on the back for solving a problem that is not, really, in and of itself, an actual fundamental problem.
 
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