Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

[nOOky]

The 25th would have to be initiated by VP/cabinet as things currently stand. The only role congress currently has in the process is in voting on the replaced POTUS's submitted challenge/reinstatement petition.

The talk of the 25th amendment is stoopid. Look how long Saint Reagan was propped up and a vegetable and I don't recall anyone asking for his removal.

 

[MrSquished]

The main African American frats and sororities are about to throw their hats in the ring for Kamala by putting boots on the ground

 

[K1052]

Democrats in array and Republicans mess in the House again. Balance has been restored.

They were enjoying the last few weeks because it was not them in a bind for once. Back to your usual programming.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815752724962476530

 

[K1052]

Biden withdrawal speech slated for tomorrow.

 

[pcgeek11]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

 

[JD50]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

It was still Biden's decision to make, he could have refused to drop out if he wanted to. You think Trump would drop out of the race with similar pressure from the GOP? LMAO no.

 

[K1052]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

Because we would like to possibly win the election? Biden was ultimately convinced his own standing had been too damaged in important states to continue coupled with the party pressure (largely guided by Pelosi). Every survey indicated between 50-60% of Democrats, actual voters not "the elites", wanted him to withdraw. A figure that was even worse in independent voters. Democratic voters are basically entirely lined up behind the change now that it's occurred, if they were not happy they would be saying so.

I have not talked to one single other live person who voted for Biden in the primary who has expressed concern about "our vote being thrown away".

 

[K1052]

It was still Biden's decision to make, he could have refused to drop out if he wanted to. You think Trump would drop out of the race with similar pressure from the GOP? LMAO no.

In no small part what we are seeing is another dividend from the fact that the Democratic Party has not become a cult of personalty. That our goals are larger than any single person.

 

[MrSquished]

Oh shit, maybe we should reflect now that a Trump party member and voter has chimed in.

Nope. Nevermind. Just got word. These people's thoughts are of no relevance to the continued progress of the human species.

 

[JD50]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

I'm glad you're so concerned with the will of the voters, I wonder where that was when Trump tried to overturn an election when the voters clearly chose Biden over Trump.

 

[thilanliyan]

They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

The irony of a person who voted for Trump who nearly ended democracy, calling for the democratic process, lol.
See guys, he's going to have to vote for Trump again since Democrats are so undemocratic...

When will GOP politicians and voters stop being hypocrites?

 

[repoman0]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

Biden primary voter here with crazy news. Harris’ name was also on the ticket when I checked that box!

 

[pcgeek11]

It was still Biden's decision to make, he could have refused to drop out if he wanted to. You think Trump would drop out of the race with similar pressure from the GOP? LMAO no.

No I don't.

 

[Zorba]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

Biden made the choice himself, even if he was pressured.

 

[JD50]

No I don't.

Great, now you know why Biden is praised for making the selfless decision that Trump would never make.

 

[pcgeek11]

Great, now you know why Biden is praised for making the selfless decision that Trump would never make.

Okay they are praising him for getting forced to drop out.

That Trump wouldn't drop out if pressured is just an opinion and not a fact.

Got It!

 

[Stokely]

Let's consider that Biden has begun a sudden and steep physical (and maybe mental) decline. It happens. We all know older people that sorta fall off a cliff. I don't know if that has happened to Biden, but it looks possible--and isn't that what righties have been saying?

So in such a case, isn't the logical move to not run again? I agree he shouldn't have run again in the first place. I thought he was too old in 2020 for that matter.

And of course the GOP and its supporters want chaos and confusion. I'd want the same for the GOP honestly. But stop with the fake concern for the "will of the Democratic voters", you fool nobody. And whether or not the Democrats forced out Biden or his family convinced him, who gives a shit. Not your concern. You just don't want the Democrats galvanized behind a candidate, full stop. Admit it. And there's no certainty Harris will win or even avoid getting trounced, so stop being so worried. You have your horse, be happy about it and get behind him for the fight.

If the Democrats don't want Harris forced on them and feel shorted about not getting a round of primaries, they'll not vote in strength for her and she'll lose big-time in Nov.

 

[MrSquished]

Okay they are praising him for getting forced to drop out.

That Trump wouldn't drop out if pressured is just an opinion and not a fact.

Got It!

You vote for people that praise Donald Trump. Who the fuck gives a shit what you think

 

[JD50]

Okay they are praising him for getting forced to drop out.

That Trump wouldn't drop out if pressured is just an opinion and not a fact.

Got It!

Yes, he's praised for dropping out when it's clear that he's no longer the favored candidate of his party, even though he personally wants to stay in.

No shit it's an opinion that Trump wouldn't drop out. The FACT that Trump tried to overturn an election when the American people told him to GTFO is pretty solid evidence that he wouldn't drop out if the GOP tried forcing him.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

- Technically, people voted for a Biden/Harris primary ticket, with the understanding that Harris would take over if Biden was unable to at any given time.

That reality has come to pass.

This is literally how the system is supposed to work.

 

[HomerJS]

Why are people saying how great Biden is getting out of the race.
The DNC Elite forced him out. He was leaving one way or another as per Pelosi. I do think he should have never ran for reelection. I don't agree with the DNC ignoring the will of the voters. They should have another primary iaw the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.”

I would say almost 70% of the Democratic base wanting another candidate did it. Along with his moments of blanking out.

Maybe the same reason people heaped praise on Mike Pence?

 

[eelw]

No shit it's an opinion that Trump wouldn't drop out. The FACT that Trump tried to overturn an election when the American people told him to GTFO is pretty solid evidence that he wouldn't drop out if the GOP tried forcing him.

Ignoring that the only reason he’s running is to avoid prosecution. Lol he cares for the country?

 

[K1052]

Schumer and Jefferies endorse Harris.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815797052921860099

 

[Stokely]

It's "a" reason, maybe the main one at this point.

But he also wants one last shot at being a true authoritarian in the mold of people he's admired repeatedly in the past, folks like Putin, Kim, Duterte and others. People who can wave their hand and "make it so"--he absolutely hated having to abide by "rules" and "norms" when a real ruler should be able to make their every whim a reality. Trump has always been about power and adulation.

But yeah, at this point it's very likely his literal get out of jail free card, or at least a way to get out of paying more fees and fines. And I'm sure he's got a list of those he's going to go after day 1 if he wins. If I'm jack Smith, Fani Wilson or any of the judges and prosecuters in his cases not named Cannon, I might be ready to GTFO of dodge quickly if he wins this election. Hell if I'm the jurists that found him guilty I'd be plenty worried.

 

[manly]

- Technically, people voted for a Biden/Harris primary ticket, with the understanding that Harris would take over if Biden was unable to at any given time.

That reality has come to pass.

This is literally how the system is supposed to work.

Let's be honest about this. Biden got a shit ton of "encouragement" to exit the race. One reason why this thread's poll leaned so heavily towards he's staying in is because we didn't generally expect his overall support to crater so hard. (By overall, I mean donors, fellow (D) politicians, and polling support.) Even as recently as say about 10 days ago, it seemed like he was staying in.

There's no modern precedent for the incumbent running for reelection to drop out in mid July; it's never happened before so saying this is how the system works is a pretty expansive view of the truth. Joe Biden isn't incapacitated, he was led to the door much to his own consternation.

Having said that, Joe Biden finally saw the writing on the wall. On Saturday, his innermost circle saw the latest dreadful data (whatever it is, see Politico) and decided if he stays in, he loses in November and torches his own legacy. So it took an agonizing three weeks, but he finally capitulated to reality.