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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Stop yelling at the sky. You're wasting your time getting angry and imaginary things that you make up. Your whole post is just made up pretty much.

Just take a deep breath, mourn what you have to mourn, and let's go beat Trump.

We prosecuted our case against Biden and won, because we were telling the truth. Now it's time to prosecute the case against Trump, from a much better place.

Just step back for a while and see the reality in front of you. But I think the stepping back is important.

If you think I'm yelling at the sky.. don't be surprised when Jan 2025 rolls around and the abortion ban and Millers Pogroms takes effect!

My point is they strong arm the system while we keep "hoping".

I'm tired of it! We need to push back and strong arm them like Grant did in 1864-65!
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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If you think I'm yelling at the sky.. don't be surprised when Jan 2025 rolls around and the abortion ban and Millers Pogroms takes effect!

My point is they strong arm the system while we keep "hoping".

I'm tired of it! We need to push back and strong arm them like Grant did in 1864-65!
Bro, grab one tub of friendly's ice cream and tie it to your head and then eat the other one. The whole thing. Your brain is on fire, cool it down. This is the best shot we have at winning the election in a while. Do whatever you have to do to figure that out. And then help us win.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,177
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If you think I'm yelling at the sky.. don't be surprised when Jan 2025 rolls around and the abortion ban and Millers Pogroms takes effect!

My point is they strong arm the system while we keep "hoping".

I'm tired of it! We need to push back and strong arm them like Grant did in 1864-65!
Biden was very unlikely to win. He speech yesterday was good in content but he slurred a lot and just seemed old in completely prepared remarks. There are probably 20 Dems that give us a better shot than Biden, Kamala being the easiest and most obvious sub in. Unless something insane comes out about her, there is no way she loses when Biden would've won. Enthusiasm matters for winning elections, period.
 

dlerious

Golden Member
Mar 4, 2004
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His first post in this thread referenced a WEEKLY unemployment numbers report in a reply to my post about unemployment numbers being very good under Biden. He went micro to deflect from macro. Definite trolling attempt.
Wrong again, his first post in this thread was #39. You're only off a few thousand.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Why should it ring hollow? I'm not taking back any of my assessments of Biden's behavior, or his inner circle, or his supporters delusions, the gaslighting, and the straight up denial of reality. What Biden did was due to immense pressure of people that dealt in reality, unlike him and his crew, who were willing to take down our country with them. Butultimately, he did the right thing - so for now I won't re-litigate what I and many others have proven true. We were totally correct. Not just about Biden and all the shit he put us through the last year, but about how this race needed to inspire Democrats, and Biden was not the guy. As we have seen from the last 4 days, we were all so so so correct, more than I even thought even. But now we have to beat Trump, we have the inspiration and the candidate we need - we have to go forth and win. Biden's legacy can be examined again later, when more and more info comes up, and I will gladly talk about it then. It won't be pretty.

But I am happy now because we have moved on, and I, like so many others, are actually hopeful for once about this election, and not miserable because of Joe Biden's completely flawed and unnecessary candidacy. So maybe I will touch myself. I am feeling good, so maybe I'll even bust out some lube. I'll think of you, I promise.

Hey I was just angry at Biden and crew for, you know, hiding shit and doing things that could destroy American democracy. You are mad at me because, I dunno, I said the truth, just sometimes in an over the top way.
Maybe you should actually get your priorities straight. Good luck with that. Have a good night.
This is at the core or what you fail to grasp, basic statistics: At the time you were not 100% correct. You acted like you were and quite arrogantly so. Whatever % your bet was(different from 100) landed on the winning horse and now you again but retroactively claim that you already knew that it was 100 at the time.
Its the very definition of nostradumbassery and its not how statistics entropy and atoms work.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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This is at the core or what you fail to grasp, basic statistics: At the time you were not 100% correct. You acted like you were and quite arrogantly so. Whatever % your bet was(different from 100) landed on the winning horse and now you again but retroactively claim that you already knew that it was 100 at the time.
Its the very definition of nostradumbassery and its not how statistics entropy and atoms work.
Unfortunately you insist on continuing to call my predictions Nostradamus like as in having no basis in reality. Except that is completely false. There were many data points and information that I and others used to calculate the fundamentals of this race and Biden's candidacy. So it's a completely irrelevant comparison. Nostradam is just predicting things way in the future with no data. Do you really think that's what I and others did? You tell me
 
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Stokely

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2017
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Fact is, we'll never know now if Biden would have beaten Trump. Moot point, might as well debate whether Jordan's Bulls could have beaten the best Golden State team or whatever.

I just know I have hope that I didn't have after the debate. Maybe misguided. Maybe neither Biden nor Harris had a prayer. Maybe either would have won. Regardless, we have what we have, time to move forward.
 
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iRONic

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2006
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Why should it ring hollow? I'm not taking back any of my assessments of Biden's behavior, or his inner circle, or his supporters delusions, the gaslighting, and the straight up denial of reality. What Biden did was due to immense pressure of people that dealt in reality, unlike him and his crew, who were willing to take down our country with them. Butultimately, he did the right thing - so for now I won't re-litigate what I and many others have proven true. We were totally correct. Not just about Biden and all the shit he put us through the last year, but about how this race needed to inspire Democrats, and Biden was not the guy. As we have seen from the last 4 days, we were all so so so correct, more than I even thought even. But now we have to beat Trump, we have the inspiration and the candidate we need - we have to go forth and win. Biden's legacy can be examined again later, when more and more info comes up, and I will gladly talk about it then. It won't be pretty.

But I am happy now because we have moved on, and I, like so many others, are actually hopeful for once about this election, and not miserable because of Joe Biden's completely flawed and unnecessary candidacy. So maybe I will touch myself. I am feeling good, so maybe I'll even bust out some lube. I'll think of you, I promise.

Hey I was just angry at Biden and crew for, you know, hiding shit and doing things that could destroy American democracy. You are mad at me because, I dunno, I said the truth, just sometimes in an over the top way.
Maybe you should actually get your priorities straight. Good luck with that. Have a good night.
Shitlol. If you think I'm actually mad at you for that vitriol you spewed it's your priorities that aren’t straight.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Fact is, we'll never know now if Biden would have beaten Trump. Moot point, might as well debate whether Jordan's Bulls could have beaten the best Golden State team or whatever.

I just know I have hope that I didn't have after the debate. Maybe misguided. Maybe neither Biden nor Harris had a prayer. Maybe either would have won. Regardless, we have what we have, time to move forward.
I agree with you, except I see no scenario where Biden would've won that Harris loses. I can see the opposite.
 

Stokely

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2017
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I actually feel that way as well, but I've been wrong before when it comes to anything involving Trump.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Unfortunately you insist on continuing to call my predictions Nostradamus like as in having no basis in reality. Except that is completely false. There were many data points and information that I and others used to calculate the fundamentals of this race and Biden's candidacy. So it's a completely irrelevant comparison. Nostradam is just predicting things way in the future with no data. Do you really think that's what I and others did? You tell me
See? Its either 0 or 100 with you. Embrace the 50 and level up dude.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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See? Its either 0 or 100 with you. Embrace the 50 and level up dude.
Uhh no it isn't. Why can't you answer a simple question?

A Nostradamus prediction of the far future is just a guess about the future with no basis in data. Our predictions of the race were based in a lot of different data points - and to people like say Pelosi who were big behind the scenes on this. Data.

So, do you think our predictions were based upon data? Or are you going to stick by your Nostradamus thing again and again, which implies the complete opposite? It's a simple question you avoided. So just following up in case you missed it.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Well I think we found out why after Biden spent a ton on ads why they didn't actually seem to do anything.

It's going to take Harris a bit to stand up a full fledged ad operation because one basically did not exist for her to inherit.

I read that the Harris team was trying to hire Plouffe on Monday, of Obama campaign fame. Haven't seen anything since though.
 

Stopsignhank

Platinum Member
Mar 1, 2014
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Uhh no it isn't. Why can't you answer a simple question?

A Nostradamus prediction of the far future is just a guess about the future with no basis in data. Our predictions of the race were based in a lot of different data points - and to people like say Pelosi who were big behind the scenes on this. Data.

So, do you think our predictions were based upon data? Or are you going to stick by your Nostradamus thing again and again, which implies the complete opposite? It's a simple question you avoided. So just following up in case you missed it.
1st bold: 0 percent.
2nd bold: 100 percent.

You took that second bolded part and began swinging "Biden cultist" at anyone and everyone that didnt agree with you 100%.

I also know this is headed nowhere and that is on me . Sorry bout that, im out.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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Who needs a full flegded ad operation? Just let Trump make the ads for you.

Don't worry, most European elections only run for a couple of weeks. We get plenty of fed up with political debates and ads for such a short time. I doubt it'll matter in the end if she has ads now or in ten days or whenever she has been approved as candidate.
 
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APU_Fusion

Golden Member
Dec 16, 2013
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Wrong again, his first post in this thread was #39. You're only off a few thousand.
Ok. You win. Even though you failed to address any of my objective data driven statements with your blatant attempts to claim employment numbers are bad. You are pathetic.

Answer simply.

Who produced more jobs in their four years. Biden or Trump? Is 4.1% unemployment considered full employment by most economists? Your single weekly jobs report is meaningless noise and you know it.

Did Trump produce -2 million jobs in his four years? I don’t give a shit about Covid. You all cry about Biden and inflation when it was worldwide post pandemic issue so your trumpie gets to own covid.

Answer the questions. None of you trolls ever answer simple questions based on data.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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1st bold: 0 percent.
2nd bold: 100 percent.

You took that second bolded part and began swinging "Biden cultist" at anyone and everyone that didnt agree with you 100%.

I also know this is headed nowhere and that is on me . Sorry bout that, im out.
You still won't answer the question about your Nostradumbass comments. Care to answer a simple question about things you said in that very same post?

As far as cultists in this forum, I specifically pointed out 4-5 posters (dank, brainonska, eelw and two others), not anyone that didn't agree with me. The ones that were gaslighting and posting consistently misleading posts about the Biden situation are teh ones I called cultists specifically. So you lied about that, as other people that didn't agree with me I didn't do so.

Of course you are out. You can't answer a simple question about your own words. Not my issue, have a lovely day.
 

Stokely

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2017
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As nuts as it sounds to most thinking people, ads do matter and well-done ones work.

Much like email marketing works, because if it didn't companies wouldn't do it no matter how cheap it is to do.

Harris is definitely on youtube a ton, or at least "my" youtube Can't watch 3 vids without seeing 2 of her ads. Which is fine by me!
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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You still won't answer the question about your Nostradumbass comments. Care to answer a simple question about things you said in that very same post?

As far as cultists in this forum, I specifically pointed out 4-5 posters (dank, brainonska, eelw and two others), not anyone that didn't agree with me. The ones that were gaslighting and posting consistently misleading posts about the Biden situation are teh ones I called cultists specifically. So you lied about that, as other people that didn't agree with me I didn't do so.

Of course you are out. You can't answer a simple question about your own words. Not my issue, have a lovely day.
But I *did* answer it. Look closer.
 

eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
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Moot point, might as well debate whether Jordan's Bulls could have beaten the best Golden State team or whatever.
Bulls easily. Curry and let’s bring in Bron also, would not be as good far more contact play. And imagine prime Jordan in this breath on you and get a foul play now
 
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