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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Oh...and the liberals biggest flaw of all...one that guarantees a Trump victory...

Liberals love wide open borders that let in millions of migrants to flood the nation over the last 4 years to the point of breaking city budgets and social programs that had no way to deal with it. Biden actually flying them into and around America. WTF?!
 
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Dec 10, 2005
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Oh...and the liberals biggest flaw of all...one that guarantees a Trump victory...

Liberals love wide open borders that let in millions of migrants to flood the nation over the last 4 years to the point of breaking city budgets and social programs that had no way to deal with it. Biden actually flying them into and around America. WTF?!
Those poor straw people - they never had a chance.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
85,504
50,673
136
Oh...and the liberals biggest flaw of all...one that guarantees a Trump victory...

Liberals love wide open borders that let in millions of migrants to flood the nation over the last 4 years to the point of breaking city budgets and social programs that had no way to deal with it. Biden actually flying them into and around America. WTF?!
If liberals love it so much why do Republicans keep torpedoing legislation that would provide huge additional resources for border security?

In reality you know nobody loves open borders more than Republicans. Thats why they keep voting for them.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
70,129
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Oh...and the liberals biggest flaw of all...one that guarantees a Trump victory...

Liberals love wide open borders that let in millions of migrants to flood the nation over the last 4 years to the point of breaking city budgets and social programs that had no way to deal with it. Biden actually flying them into and around America. WTF?!
Liar
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Hmm, what was the total of guns grabbed when Obama left office?

Exaggerate much?
Speaking as someone who sold guns in the 2010-2012 timeframe, Obama was great for business. There were a large number of morons in Texas that were sure Obama was going to take guns and ammo away, we sold more in like the three months leading up to that election than the previous two years combined.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,132
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It is rather telling that both UK and France can hold whole elections in 2-3 months.

America has 4 months remaining, but we're supposedly stuck with Biden and cannot possibly mount a campaign with someone capable of campaigning. Especially with a convention coming up where Democrats could get together for the selection of a good candidate. For if we are not capable of producing one out of 330 million people... then maybe this dark timeline is our deserved fate. For when the supposed bastion of Democracy cannot do Democracy, the world has surely already turned upside down and our doom has already rang aloud.

Parliamentary systems are looking better by the day. With more focus on the party, and not the person. Where any danger to party or policy will often result in new leadership.
For what it's worth... the UK and France are a little smaller than the US as well. I'm not saying we can't do it, but it's not exactly a 1:1 comparison there.
 

Stokely

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2017
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Everyone else has hit the gun lies and "trans wars" (imagine having your life so upended by that minuscule percent of people making a difficult, personal decision that you'll vote for people literally denying those people health care and the ability to use the fucking restroom.) Of course, you'll still get to sleep because those "people" aren't really people, are they? Any more than refugees are.

"Excessive regulation"...my coworker went on a spiel about that. Basically, the free market should take care of it according to him. The only good regulation is a dead regulation. if the public don't agree with a company dumping toxins in waterways (his example, not mine) then that company will not do as well. Sure, we'll see how well that works out for the people downstream in 20-30 years. No way we are all part of a larger ecology or anything--that sounds like high-falutin' science nerd liberal talk. Corporations can always be trusted to do the thing that saves/makes them money, and can buy the influence needed to make sure it's hidden away or covered up.

Not to say regulation can't go overboard. I'm all for adjusting stuff that is too-far reaching or is not appropriate. Like the Patriot Act.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,603
28,722
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Just think about 3 things for a week:

1. Most mass shooting victims would have survived if they were shot with a pistol and not a rifle.

2. Most domestic violence fatalities have pre-reported cases where the future victim requests protection and denial of gun rights from the future killer.

3. If we remove guns from the people in 2 and the type of gun in 1.. we're not getting rid of all guns and this is not likely to be excessive regulation and gun grabbing!

Don't have to answer me now.. take a week, 2 weeks.. reason it out with yourself.
Imagine the number of people who would have lived in the Vegas mass shooting without a rifle with a bump stock. 60 people died. Over 500 wounded.

Just think of how many more people would have died if everyone were armed and started firing back.

The fallacy of more guns make us safer.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
31,372
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For what it's worth... the UK and France are a little smaller than the US as well. I'm not saying we can't do it, but it's not exactly a 1:1 comparison there.
We do our elections old school! Put a cross in the box next to the name of your candidate. Then they all get counted locally and tallied up.

Edit. TBH I think ours only works because people want it to, rather than with you guys where a lot of people seem to want it not to work!
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Imagine the number of people who would have lived in the Vegas mass shooting without a rifle with a bump stock. 60 people died. Over 500 wounded.

Just think of how many more people would have died if everyone were armed and started firing back.

The fallacy of more guns make us safer.
Look man, I agree there are too many nut bags with guns 🔫

But arbitrarily deciding to outlaw them is nonsense.

We need to outlaw shoplifters and drug dealers. And pass the ammo while you are at it.

Can I get an Amen? 🙏
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
38,332
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Not lot of things would surprise me at this point. Biden could step down in a matter of a day or two, I've seen it prognosticated (yesterday) by a poly sci prof. Biden stays in, loses to T and company. Biden stays and wins. Open convention leading to victory or defeat. Nuts-boy SCOTUS shenanigans galore or none. Biden regains his mojo, or no. Another debate or none. I do not expect a lot of shooting in deciding the White House. What am I missing?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Looks like the Democratic party is going to fail us again. They let a guy who half his own party didn't want to run, with approval ratings in the shitter, And the risk of his decline continuing rapidly, steamroll his way avoiding any competition using himself being an elite, to withhold from us an actual primary. Instead we got a formality. Talk about ego.

All we had to do to beat Trump, A shitty candidate, was put pretty much any decent candidate in there under 60 years old, that could speak without looking like the crypt keeper, and not stumble around, and literally can't handle live questions. And a straight white guy not from the coasts as VP. That's all we had to do.

Now we have to sit on pins and fucking needles for this clearly mentally declining rapidly geriatric with this huge ego now turn this election into a fucking nail biter.

Biden is the biggest gift we could have given Trump this election cycle. Shitty numbers matching some of the lowest historic levels. We took an 80 to 90% chance of beating Trump and turn it into now maybe even a little less than coin flip odds.

We had a chance to make it right and now the Democratic party has failed again. No balls, no vision, scared shitless to rock any boat.
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Looks like the Democratic party is going to fail us again. They let a guy who half his own party didn't want to run, with approval ratings in the shitter, And the risk of his decline continuing rapidly, steamroll his way avoiding any competition using himself being an elite, to withhold from us an actual primary. Instead we got a formality. Talk about ego.

All we had to do to beat Trump, A shitty candidate, was put pretty much any decent candidate in there under 60 years old, that could speak without looking like the crypt keeper, and not stumble around, and literally can't handle live questions. And a straight white guy not from the coasts as VP. That's all we had to do.

Now we have to sit on pins and fucking needles for this clearly mentally declining rapidly geriatric with this huge ego now turn this election into a fucking nail biter.

Biden is the biggest gift we could have given Trump this election cycle. Shitty numbers matching some of the lowest historic levels. We took an 80 to 90% chance of beating Trump and turn it into now maybe even a little less than coin flip odds.

We had a chance to make it right and now the Democratic party has failed again. No balls, no vision, scared shitless to rock any boat.
Still trolling this defeatism, eh? The current administration has been recently called the most successful since WW II... You're saying Democrats have let us down completely. What are you about, really? A blue avalanche could be on its way in November. It's pretty uncertain now.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Pronouns? You mean just respecting other people and following how they ask you to refer to them? The only people making a big deal out of trans stuff are Republicans who don't respect bodily autonomy.

What "serious criminal acts" have been decriminalized?
Far too many liberal cities have tried decriminalizing drugs/ narcotics...then are ahocked when drug use increases and the associated crimes (burglary, robbert, theft, assaults, etc) spike.
The Washington Supreme Court decriminalized drug use/possession...things went to shit...so they "fixed" it so that drug possession that was formerly felony charges are now gross misdemeanors...a good start.
All too often, some pos criminal will get arrested...put back in the streets where he continues his criming...again and again, often arrested and kicked several times before he goes to court for the first offense...then gets released with a slap on the wrist.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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We do our elections old school! Put a cross in the box next to the name of your candidate. Then they all get counted locally and tallied up.

Edit. TBH I think ours only works because people want it to, rather than with you guys where a lot of people seem to want it not to work!
Well, the GOP is against anything that increases voter turnout or in general makes voting easier.
You seem to be arguing against a point that no one is making.
Felix either needs to do more drugs, or less, not sure, as long as he picks one and goes with it.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Oh...and the liberals biggest flaw of all...one that guarantees a Trump victory...

Liberals love wide open borders that let in millions of migrants to flood the nation over the last 4 years to the point of breaking city budgets and social programs that had no way to deal with it. Biden actually flying them into and around America. WTF?!

Felix I think that perception is that's true because the media repeats it so much.

But just look at how they ran with the Biden should be replaced and see how much they just a pick a story and decide to run it non stop because it generates clicks by pissing people off.

I think the left isn't the problem to fixing the solution. The right wing is the problem because they don't want to fix it.. they want the status quo since it's easier to get the outrage vote and money off of the suckers who fall for it.

And it's very hard to overcome constant 24/7 barrage of fake news with facts. Most have even forgotten Obama was the deporter in chief.
 
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Far too many liberal cities have tried decriminalizing drugs/ narcotics...then are ahocked when drug use increases and the associated crimes (burglary, robbert, theft, assaults, etc) spike.
The Washington Supreme Court decriminalized drug use/possession...things went to shit...so they "fixed" it so that drug possession that was formerly felony charges are now gross misdemeanors...a good start.
All too often, some pos criminal will get arrested...put back in the streets where he continues his criming...again and again, often arrested and kicked several times before he goes to court for the first offense...then gets released with a slap on the wrist

Throwing people in jail for addiction isn't a great use of resources. I'd argue that the failure isn't with decriminalization, it's with 2-3 other things that need to go along with it: supportive housing to get people off the streets (and get them the help they need), mandatory treatment (or punishment) if you want to follow some of the European models, and a failure of authorities to just kick people off public transit for anti-social behavior. I agree that you can't just decriminalize without the appropriate backstop. However, the solution shouldn't be to just throw more people in jail and prison as the Republican model would have us do.

But back to the main point: decriminalizing drug use isn't "decriminalizing serious criminal acts". Few people would think someone shooting up heroin or whatever are committing "serious criminal acts" through that action alone.

As for people getting arrested and put back on the street: bail is to ensure someone shows up at their trial; it isn't supposed to be used to punish people before they are convicted. If you want to help break that cycle, we need to get people off the street and get them treatment.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Still trolling this defeatism, eh? The current administration has been recently called the most successful since WW II... You're saying Democrats have let us down completely. What are you about, really? A blue avalanche could be on its way in November. It's pretty uncertain now.
The only reason this race is this close, against Trump, is because of how weak a candidate Biden was before and after the debate. I never attacked Dem policy, you just made all that up in your head - it's amazing the gaslighting that Biden dems are doing now. But if you think the primary driver of election wins is policy, well, then Democrats would win 90% of all the elections. Imagine thinking a candidate doesn't matter, it's what historians say now. The electorate is rational, yep. Sure, in your daydreams maybe. You don't live in the political reality of this country.
 
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