better revise it to 0
Exactly why a party doesn’t primary the incumbent. But yet we continually get squishy and chicken little saying otherwise. And why so many of us chose 0% chance.History shows that if Biden steps down, it would hand the election to Trump. The last time a party's Presidential nominee stepped down, or was removed (1800's - going off memory, was around 1862, but I could be way off) this late into the election, it caused the party to lose the elections. Back then there was no interent, no social media for the apposing party to capalize on such display of disfuctinality of a party and it's canidate. You think the damage is bad now from Biden's poor performance in the debate. Him stepping down would be catastrophic. Specially 4.5 months before the elections. that's not even taking into account the problems it would cause across the nation. Utah already tried to remove Biden from the Ballot.. if he stepped down, you would see many red states try to keep Biden's replacement off the Ballot. That's not taking into account that nobody else appeared to be able to beat Trump according to the polls taken months ago.
Nobody's asked for a contested primary, we never wanted the incumbent running in the first place. But there were a lot of them saying right away Biden was the best choice. That's such a highly embarrassing answer at this point.Exactly why a party doesn’t primary the incumbent. But yet we continually get squishy and chicken little saying otherwise. And why so many of us chose 0% chance.
Willingly stepping down?Be free to change your vote as the situation evolves...
As a bonus; cast a replacement candidate in the comments.
Its not a reflection of my opinion, my first and final thought on this is that I am not qualified to assess what course of action maximizes odds of beating Trump. So I decided to poll ATPN.better revise it to 0
because even if you think he's old and weak.. he is what the people voted for!
If you try and replace him.. you do exactly what Trump did.. override the will of a free and fair election.
And if you need any reminder of who the real enemy is:
Define acceptable
LBJ stepping down would've been much different had Robert Kennedy not been shot.Like I’m not closed minded to the idea but citing LBJ is absolute fucking clown material. Going to need something a lot more credible than that.
1862 wasn't an election year.History shows that if Biden steps down, it would hand the election to Trump. The last time a party's Presidential nominee stepped down, or was removed (1800's - going off memory, was around 1862, but I could be way off) this late into the election, it caused the party to lose the elections. Back then there was no interent, no social media for the apposing party to capalize on such display of disfuctinality of a party and it's canidate. You think the damage is bad now from Biden's poor performance in the debate. Him stepping down would be catastrophic. Specially 4.5 months before the elections. that's not even taking into account the problems it would cause across the nation. Utah already tried to remove Biden from the Ballot.. if he stepped down, you would see many red states try to keep Biden's replacement off the Ballot. That's not taking into account that nobody else appeared to be able to beat Trump according to the polls taken months ago.
LBJ stepping down would've been much different had Robert Kennedy not been shot.
I agree with that.Yes but as an overall example not reassuring in terms of outcome.
That example is also before rules changed that brought us the primary process we know today and largely defanged the smokey backroom of party insiders appointing nominees.Yes but as an overall example not reassuring in terms of outcome.
Was there any substance to their complaints about his performance prior to the debate, as in, did they take issue with any of the administration's legislative actions, or is it just a vague "he's just not doing a good enough job"?What a dismal geriatric election cycle we have before us. None of the democrats I talk with are happy about Biden's performance before the debate and the debate just poured gasoline onto those opinions.
More, "he's not polling good enough", largely due to non-stop lies on the Republican-controlled mediaWas there any substance to their complaints about his performance prior to the debate, as in, did they take issue with any of the administration's legislative actions, or is it just a vague "he's just not doing a good enough job"?
Do we have this metric from independents in prior elections? I feel like much of the time independents would be in favor of the current candidates being replaced.America is very excited about its choices in this election. I predict high turnout like all the pundits and pollsters. Easy call.
America is very excited about its choices in this election. I predict high turnout like all the pundits and pollsters. Easy call.
I answered a call on my cell phone from a pollster the other day, but was not eligible to participate (I still have a Nebraska area code, but I'm not registered to vote there since I live elsewhere). Probably should have just lied and said "why yes, I am registered in Nebraska!"
Do we have this metric from independents in prior elections? I feel like much of the time independents would be in favor of the current candidates being replaced.
This isn't new. Polls from months ago showed that a large majority didn't want Biden or Trump to run.
Might not have been clear that I was throwing shade on pollsters who think this is going to be a high (2020 or more) turnout election.
My bad.
It feels like 2016. Except replace complacency with apathy/disgust.