The problem is that people are waiving their arms and claiming the situation has changed when it in fact has not changed.
Also when your party has an incumbent president the party apparatus is for all intents and purposes an extension of that person. Presidents don't create primary opponents for themselves.
Also when your party has an incumbent president the party apparatus is for all intents and purposes an extension of that person. Presidents don't create primary opponents for themselves.
Well you've obviously tried to get the best candidate you could and ended up with someone that's running neck and neck with Trump! Good going!If you look at how things actually work this is not very effective. For example the response to the state of the union is the most common place for parties to try and do what you're saying - how often has that worked? Almost never.
Eh? In a system that isn't awash with huge amounts of money controlled by two parties you might have a point.People who are good talents elevate themselves by getting attention on their own merits - this is what politics is all about, after all. You don't want someone who you have to gift attention to because they couldn't earn it on their own why would voters?
The democratic party can't give candidates exposure or advice?
The nominee for 2024 was ALWAYS going to be Biden unless he personally chose not to run! There was never a plausible alternative scenario outside of him dying because this is how politics works.Well you've obviously tried to get the best candidate you could and ended up with someone that's running neck and neck with Trump! Good going!
Butteigeig has gone from being a nobody small town mayor to someone who will be a very strong 2028 candidate, based on basically his own ability to get attention. That is assuming we have an election in 2028 of course.Eh? In a system that isn't awash with huge amounts of money controlled by two parties you might have a point.
Who is this 'democratic party'? Who leads it?The democratic party can't give candidates exposure or advice?
They can't push new talent?
They have no influence over their own party?
The democratic party can't give candidates exposure or advice?
They can't push new talent?
They have no influence over their own party?
That's not how politics works. That's how you've chosen to have politics work in the context of one party.The nominee for 2024 was ALWAYS going to be Biden unless he personally chose not to run! There was never a plausible alternative scenario outside of him dying because this is how politics works.
The point of having a party is so you don't have to act as separate individuals.Biden wasn't going to elevate a primary rival and so other members of the party would have to basically openly declare war on Biden to do this, and if they lost, which they would have, their careers ruined. So who is doing this elevating?
I mean if you are going to push a system where it takes that long to be allowed to take a turn at the top don't be shocked when all your candidates are ancient.Butteigeig has gone from being a nobody small town mayor to someone who will be a very strong 2028 candidate, based on basically his own ability to get attention. That is assuming we have an election in 2028 of course.
I mean there's a clue in the name "party". It's a collection of individuals. If it's so dysfunctional that it's ruled by one person who no one can get rid of even if it risks throwing away what should be an easy win then maybe you need to look at reforming how it works.Who is this 'democratic party'? Who leads it?
It's how politics works in America for all political parties and it's how they have worked for far longer than either of us have been alive.That's not how politics works. That's how you've chosen to have politics work in the context of one party.
The party is controlled by the incumbent president.The point of having a party is so you don't have to act as separate individuals.
I'm not pushing any system, I'm just telling you how the system works.I mean if you are going to push a system where it takes that long to be allowed to take a turn at the top don't be shocked when all your candidates are ancient.
American parties work differently than most European and British parties. Party members in the US self identity to join, generally aren't going to get kicked out or pushed aside, and candidates for office are selected based on primaries, and there are generally few restrictions for someone to register as a candidate of a particular party. The formal party doesn't get much of any say in selecting candidates.That's not how politics works. That's how you've chosen to have politics work in the context of one party.
The point of having a party is so you don't have to act as separate individuals.
I mean if you are going to push a system where it takes that long to be allowed to take a turn at the top don't be shocked when all your candidates are ancient.
I guess that you guys are screwed then.It's how politics works in America for all political parties and it's how they have worked for far longer than either of us have been alive.
The party is controlled by the incumbent president.
I'm not pushing any system, I'm just telling you how the system works.
I think this is the rub, yes. People outside the US don't necessarily understand how parties in the US work as the parties essentially have no power. In other systems if someone misbehaves or is a bad candidate or whatever they can be left off the party list, which is both an enforcement mechanism and a way to push up talent. There's no list in American politics though and every candidate is essentially beholden to no one.American parties work differently than most European and British parties. Party members in the US self identity to join, generally aren't going to get kicked out or pushed aside, and candidates for office are selected based on primaries, and there are generally few restrictions for someone to register as a candidate of a particular party. The formal party doesn't get much of any say in selecting candidates.
I'm not sure the US will be ready to vote in an openly gay man as president, even in 2028. Would love to be wrong, but I doubt it.Butteigeig has gone from being a nobody small town mayor to someone who will be a very strong 2028 candidate, based on basically his own ability to get attention. That is assuming we have an election in 2028 of course.
You could very well be right but regardless I expect him to run in 2028 if we aren't a dictatorship then and I expect him to be a strong candidate in the primary.I'm not sure the US is ready to vote in an openly gay man as president. Would love to be wrong, but I doubt it.
I'm not sure the US is ready to vote in an openly gay man as president. Would love to be wrong, but I doubt it.
MeidasTouch started as a Democratic aligned SuperPAC in 2020.Hear hear!
To squishy or gothicevos or imjackass or turdmahal:
try and explain this!
Sure and because of that everyone thought of Biden as some young whippersnapper./eye roll
Biden’s age was a concern the first time he ran and people still voted for him, in fact it was a record amount of people who voted him. Not only that but every subsequent election people kept voting for democrats. And people, again, voted for him in the primary.
No one has been bamboozled.
I can't help but notice that every Dem politician pushing for Biden to leave are no-name shitstains I've barely heard of.The erosion of support on the hill is clearly visible and no Biden can't ultimately survive politically without them. That's why he's put so much effort into trying to stem this.
"Debates don't change people's minds"