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linkgoron

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Biden has really bad advisors. He should've never run again, and I'm not sure what the Democrats can do. I really don't see how this doesn't end with another Trump presidency no matter what they do.
 
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K1052

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Trusting the non-stop liar Trump's statements or tweets about anything is rather insane

Trump directly not saying it but lots of people in his orbit are, including people in his campaign. The whole thing is geared against Biden and has been for years. Turning on a dime to fight somebody else is not their wish.
 
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MrSquished

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If the Dems and folks like Squishy would quit panicking about Biden being old, this shit would be a nothing burger...Biden would get re-elected...then he could step down for health reasons, Kamala could take over...and names her vice president...but OH NOES! "Biden is old! We must replace him before the election!"
Whether he steps down now and gets replaced...or stays in...Trump is going to win.
Thanks Bernie Bros!
You are delusional dude. I mean it's truly cognitive dissonance on fairly high level to think it's just because Biden is old.
 

DigDog

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.. is there anyone in the (D) that could feasibly replace him? Kamala?

too early for AOC to run ..
 

K1052

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I dunno might want to start this presser man because all the networks are filling time talking about if you're going to drop out or not and how wounded your campaign is.
 

MrSquished

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Trump directly not saying it but lots of people in his orbit are, including people in his campaign. The whole thing is geared against Biden and has been for years. Turning on a dime to fight somebody else is not their wish.
It's definitely that but also definitely not just that. Biden has terrible polling numbers in general approval ratings in the shitter, Most Democrats didn't want him to run and now I think even now majority want him to step down.

On top of that Biden he just can't do it. If you are honest with your eyes and ears it's plains day to see. Biden is Trump's dream candidate really. He is a gift to Trump.
 
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MrSquished

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I think when all is said and done, And we get more and more information about This year, What the Biden team and inner circle have done will be borderline criminal. They've hidden this with the entire nation's future at stake. I mean it's not like this is a total surprise because a ton of us knew he was looking worse could implode at any moment. But they hid the worst of it and from the believers. Honestly anybody who still wants Bidento run now Will eventually feel completely betrayed by the Biden circle when all is said and done and we know what was going on behind the scenes.

I mean that is some serious fucked up shit. Literally the country at stake, And this was their priority to hoodwink the American public and their own party and their own allies on Capitol Hill. It's literally astounding the gall of these people. I'm still in a little bit of shock over what they've done.
 

nickqt

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I changed my vote earlier today, there's just no way Biden can make it past all of this and win the election.

If dozens of elected Democrats are on record calling for the Incumbent President to not run again, it's a big ask of "sane conservatives", "centrists", "Independents", and people who would otherwise not vote or vote for Zombie Washington, to vote for Biden. If Democrats don't think Biden should run, why not just stay home?

There isn't a Blue MAGA or Biden Cult as some people negligently throw around, there are just people worried that Biden is the best candidate for President at this point in time. Biden also thinks he's the best candidate, and minus people full-on panicking, he probably still would be.

I don't think Biden will be stepping aside of his own free will, obviously, but since he isn't being removed using the 25th Amendment, it's essentially voluntary.

I would like people to go on record saying that if Biden steps aside, almost any other candidate definitely beats Trump. 1, to make me feel better, and 2, for posterity's sake.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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I'm sure Biden got enough sleep because he had to cancel or missed the meeting with the German Chancellor because he had to go to bed.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Well I sent emails to my senator and my congressperson to please push for Joe to step down.

From threads

🌀NEW:

Democratic Senator John Hickenlooper (Colorado) says calls to his office about Biden are breaking 9-1 in favor of wanting him to withdraw - Semafor

Biden
 

akenbennu

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Jul 24, 2005
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Think Joe's doing pretty good in the presser.
He's mixed up a few names and been a little hesitant at times, but nothing terrible. I don't think it's enough to keep the party from continuing to call for a replacement.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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1) Foreign policy is his favorite thing. In general the substantive parts of his answers have been fine.

2) Looks fucking shaky.

3) Dodging questions about his fitness, deflecting on paring back his schedule, general denial that he's getting older.

In short not likely to change minds either way. Which is not really sufficient if he wants to go on.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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1) Foreign policy is his favorite thing. In general the substantive parts of his answers have been fine.

2) Looks fucking shaky.

3) Dodging questions about his fitness, deflecting on paring back his schedule, general denial that he's getting older.

In short not likely to change minds either way. Which is not really sufficient if he wants to go on.
I was really hoping for something substantial, either a step down or a real step up. 'my dealer got me some top shelf shit so I'm good for a few months at least' kind of step up.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
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I think when all is said and done, And we get more and more information about This year, What the Biden team and inner circle have done will be borderline criminal. They've hidden this with the entire nation's future at stake. I mean it's not like this is a total surprise because a ton of us knew he was looking worse could implode at any moment. But they hid the worst of it and from the believers. Honestly anybody who still wants Bidento run now Will eventually feel completely betrayed by the Biden circle when all is said and done and we know what was going on behind the scenes.

I mean that is some serious fucked up shit. Literally the country at stake, And this was their priority to hoodwink the American public and their own party and their own allies on Capitol Hill. It's literally astounding the gall of these people. I'm still in a little bit of shock over what they've done.

Please elaborate on exactly what laws you think have been broken?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Please elaborate on exactly what laws you think have been broken?
borderline criminal is an expression. It means it's not quite criminal but christ if it isn't perhaps it should be. Or they are really skating the line there.

Hiding mental decline of a president about to run again not only from his voters, but also to apparently lots of Dems in Congress and the Senate as well, who are pissed off. In any presidential race this would be a major scandal, let alone this election.
 
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