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K1052

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What a plan. How about just putting up a good candidate/ticket?

Since there is no option without risk here the question is which risk do we prefer. My preference would be to roll the dice on a candidate that has more potential upside based on the available information.
 
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Zorba

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Yea, it is more than just Biden. The Dems are terrible at messaging overall. They are too caught up in identity politics and have lost touch with the hard working middle class. It is all tied together though; part of the messaging problem is that Biden is too old to counter the Rep attack, and has never been an inspiring speaker.
The Dems don't have 75% of the media doing nothing but pushing their messaging all day like Republicans. It's also much harder to message truth and real solutions than the burn it down "solutions" and non-stop lies. People don't like reading about the child tax credit, but they do love hearing about how all the people "stealing" their jobs are going to be punished.
 

Zorba

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It is odd to condemn the political instincts of the party that has gotten the most votes for president every time but once for the last 35 years.

Republicans have institutional advantages that let them hold the presidency despite their unpopularity but that's a separate issue.
The Dems did basically allow the GOP to run wild at the state and local level, though.
 

gothuevos

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What a plan. How about just putting up a good candidate/ticket?
I feel like Democrats just love to be the impotent opposition party.

I wouldn't be surprised if they've already mailed it in for the 2026 midterms.
 
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fskimospy

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And I'm sure by 2026 you'll still be going on about how close we are to holding Trump accountable.
It’s sad that being wrong over and over has led to zero introspection on your part.

I guess some people are just not capable of it.
 

K1052

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I was with him until the debate, but he needs to step aside. Harris is a better candidate at this point.

I have no way to know with certainty that Harris is ultimately a better candidate but given the trajectory of all things I'm asking for the dice.
 
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K1052

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Relatedly if Biden were to drop out and announce an endorsement of Harris I'd be doing it shortly after the R delegates vote for their ticket, were I him.

With their ticket baked you can hijack the news cycle and give Harris the opportunity to pick the best running mate (yes I think this probably is Shapiro anyway) without danger the Rs are going to alter their own ticket in response.
 

MrSquished

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I have no way to know with certainty that Harris is ultimately a better candidate but given the trajectory of all things I'm asking for the dice.
I'm confident that a Harris/Shapiro ticket would turn this race from probably a bit worse than a coin flip, to something closer to a 70% win within a few weeks.
 
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