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dank69

Lifer
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Seems like we are rapidly approaching critical mass on this thing.

God help us all I hope it doesn't turn out to be a huge mistake. I never liked that Kamala was tapped as VP even back in 2020, but now that decision looks even worse. Democrats cannot afford any missteps and that is a big ask of a wildly incoherent group.
 

K1052

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God help us all I hope it doesn't turn out to be a huge mistake. I never liked that Kamala was tapped as VP even back in 2020, but now that decision looks even worse. Democrats cannot afford any missteps and that is a big ask of a wildly incoherent group.

There are no guarantees either way.
 

Leeea

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As far as "throwing out my vote" goes I voted for Biden in the primary. I am not however going to cling to the rail of a sinking ship when there is perfectly serviceable lifeboat available. My policy desires far outweigh any allegiance to any single politician, Biden included.
Same here, I voted for Biden, but I also voted for Harris.

I am not picky.

In an open convention I do not see Harris losing. Biden has a lot of delegates, and the machine. Even released they all know it was a Biden/Harris ticket. She has the advantage going in. She has the money. She was the other person people actually voted for.


If she won it straight up, it would unify the party.
 
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dank69

Lifer
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There are no guarantees either way.
I'm fully aware of that. My only counter is that Biden pulled it off once (pretty fucking convincingly), showing that enough people were willing to vote for him. I know it's 4 years later and that means 4 years of baseless attacks on him that nonetheless have become canon in a lot of meat puppet minds.
 

ivwshane

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Lol it was first the confederates that wanted to tear down the country. Recently MAGA. Currently Dems!!!!!! Makes me wonder if these bedwetters are undercover Repugnicans?

Like let Biden win re-election. Big deal if given option to vote in Harris now or let her succeed Biden in term, it’s the same thing.

This is what doesn’t make sense to me. If we are just putting Harris at the top of the ticket then why even bother with all this movement. Biden can easily step aside as president and let Harris take over.

I get it though, democrats love stepping on their own dicks, they do it time and time again.
 

dank69

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Same here, I voted for Biden, but I also voted for Harris.

I am not picky.

In an open convention I do not see Harris losing. Biden has a lot of delegates, and the machine. Even released they all know it was a Biden/Harris ticket. She has the advantage going in. She has the money. She was the other person people actually voted for.


If she won it straight up, it would unify the party.
She might be able to win the convention but I highly doubt she would survive a full primary. She was one of the worst performers in 2020 for a good reason.
 

K1052

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This is what doesn’t make sense to me. If we are just putting Harris at the top of the ticket then why even bother with all this movement. Biden can easily step aside as president and let Harris take over.

I get it though, democrats love stepping on their own dicks, they do it time and time again.

I am strongly against a resignation for two reasons 1) Biden's supporters want him to go out with dignity and 2) Harris needs to be free to campaign as much as humanly possible without having to handle the duties of the Presidency at the same time.
 

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I like the Governor Andy pick for VP. He's presidential material and a true servant of this country. Helping him getting elected before noping out of Kentucky was one of the more rewarding things I've been able to help vote for.

But if he goes to a national ticket good luck to Kentucky to find a replacement as good as him
 
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Leeea

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She might be able to win the convention but I highly doubt she would survive a full primary. She was one of the worst performers in 2020 for a good reason.
She doesn't need to though. All she needs to do now is win the convention.

And against Trump? She can go on full attack.
 
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K1052

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K1052

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I like the Governor Andy pick for VP. He's presidential material and a true servant of this country. Helping him getting elected before noping out of Kentucky was one of the more rewarding things I've been able to help vote for.

But if he goes to a national ticket good luck to Kentucky to find a replacement as good as him

Yeah it's not like he can slide into a Senate seat there so VP wouldn't be a bad gig at all.
 

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I can't even imagine the security detail Harris would require. On a good day about a 1/3 of the country looks at her as less than human.
Now she's an existential threat to their world view and savior.
 

MrSquished

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I'm fully aware of that. My only counter is that Biden pulled it off once (pretty fucking convincingly), showing that enough people were willing to vote for him. I know it's 4 years later and that means 4 years of baseless attacks on him that nonetheless have become canon in a lot of meat puppet minds.
So the criticism of Biden was and is baseless and those of us who criticize him have meat puppet minds because we roll with baseless attacks on him. You are still rolling with this complete debunked nonsense.

Now you know why I have a stick up my ass, because you have a dumb stick stuck right through your brain, as in, the critical thinking part is missing completely. And that shit drives me crazy.
 

dank69

Lifer
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So the criticism of Biden was and is baseless and those of us who criticize him have meat puppet minds. You are still rolling with this complete debunked nonsense.

Now you know why I have a stick up my ass, because you have a dumb stick stuck right through your brain, as in, the critical thinking part is missing completely. And that shit drives me crazy.
Nothing in that post was aimed at you. Not a single word.
 

Brovane

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Hard to say for sure but it would provide an opportunity to drop out of view of the press for a bit that won't be questioned.

Though it feels like almost everybody around me either has or just had COVID again...

This latest strain is supposed to be highly contagious. I am surprised that if he has COVID that he isn't wearing a mask and those around him are not wearing a mask when in close proximity to someone who has a known case of COVID.
 
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K1052

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Organizers eventually piped in to shut down dissent and announced that the Facebook channel could no longer be used to organize for an alternative presidential ticket.

“We understand there may be some disagreement about whether Biden should stay in the race,” wrote DNC delegate Sascha Bittner, who is listed as a moderator. “However, he has made it clear that he is, and the vast majority of us are pledged delegates to him. Thus, we have decided to prohibit any organizing for a new candidate for president in this group.”

Bittner added, “Any post counter to that goal will be deleted. Remember this is for hype and logistics, not negativity. (Except for Trump, lol.) Thanks!”

My nuanced political advice to a Presidential candidate when there is any hint of a real delegate rebellion:

 

JD50

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So the criticism of Biden was and is baseless and those of us who criticize him have meat puppet minds. You are still rolling with this complete debunked nonsense.

Now you know why I have a stick up my ass, because you have a dumb stick stuck right through your brain, as in, the critical thinking part is missing completely. And that shit drives me crazy.
He's right, much of the criticism was baseless. Biden seems to have declined pretty rapidly but he did an amazing job the past 4 years given the circumstances.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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He's right, much of the criticism was baseless. Biden seems to have declined pretty rapidly but he did an amazing job the past 4 years given the circumstances.
What Democrats are criticizing his record besides on Israel and some other things by the far far left? The majority of Democrats asking him to step down have applauded his policy positions and accomplishments.

This is completely made up. The criticism of why Biden should drop out of the race has nothing to do with his policy. Let's keep this on subject.
 

evident

Lifer
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This has been brutal. No one has a clear plan on steps forward. All these D names being thrown around and none of them want it. I dont think Josh Shapiro is gonna step down from his PA Gov spot.
he just got here and is doing a great job though.

Plus even though he checks off the white male boxes, he's a Jew which wont sit well with a bunch of christian fundies..

a Black woman and a jew?
 
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