OEM 32bit Windows Vista, and 64 bit?

[ebeattie]

Was just curious to see if anyone knew anything about the OEM versions.

If I buy the 32 bit version of Home Premium, will I be able to get a copy of Vista HP 64bit disc or is that offer only valid for retail versions? Not a huge concern, as I doubt we will see any aggressive push for 64 bit software in the near future but it would be nice to have as an option.

If not, no big.

 

[crossrode]

Originally posted by: ebeattie
Was just curious to see if anyone knew anything about the OEM versions.

If I buy the 32 bit version of Home Premium, will I be able to get a copy of Vista HP 64bit disc or is that offer only valid for retail versions? Not a huge concern, as I doubt we will see any aggressive push for 64 bit software in the near future but it would be nice to have as an option.

If not, no big.

First of all if you buy the retail version for $400, you have the choice of using EITHER the 32 bit OR the 64 bit version that comes with it. Not both versions at the same time. On the other hand, if you buy a copy of the OEM 32 bit and a seperate copy of the OEM 64 bit for less than $400 you can use them at the same time, on different computers of course. Not so with retail. The only difference between retail and OEM is technical support.

 

[Shawn]

You can use an OEM key for either the 32bit or 64bit versions, but the cd only has one or the other.

 

[Navid]

Originally posted by: Shawn
You can use an OEM key for either the 32bit or 64bit versions, but the cd only has one or the other.

Are you sure about that?
I have heard that you did not have the option.

 

[Navid]

Originally posted by: crossrode
The only difference between retail and OEM is technical support.

Of course that is not true!
You can easily search and see that an OEM license gets tied to the hardware. I am not interested in arguing if the license agreement is legal or not.
But, based on the license agreement, you cannot install an OEM license on another machine even if you remove it from the original.

 

[crossrode]

Originally posted by: Navid

Originally posted by: crossrode
The only difference between retail and OEM is technical support.

Of course that is not true!
You can easily search and see that an OEM license gets tied to the hardware. I am not interested in arguing if the license agreement is legal or not.
But, based on the license agreement, you cannot install an OEM license on another machine even if you remove it from the original.

Wrong. Here three computers are activated using the same OEM CD.
WRONG! Stop spreading incorrect information!

 

[Navid]

Originally posted by: crossrode

Originally posted by: Navid

Originally posted by: crossrode
The only difference between retail and OEM is technical support.

Of course that is not true!
You can easily search and see that an OEM license gets tied to the hardware. I am not interested in arguing if the license agreement is legal or not.
But, based on the license agreement, you cannot install an OEM license on another machine even if you remove it from the original.

Wrong. Here three computers are activated using the same OEM CD.
WRONG! Stop spreading incorrect information!

Thanks for the link.
You can do it with XP also.
But, that does not make it compliant.
You can ignore my post. I'll wait for those with more information. There are a few from Microsoft here.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: crossrode

Originally posted by: Navid

Originally posted by: crossrode
The only difference between retail and OEM is technical support.

Of course that is not true!
You can easily search and see that an OEM license gets tied to the hardware. I am not interested in arguing if the license agreement is legal or not.
But, based on the license agreement, you cannot install an OEM license on another machine even if you remove it from the original.

Wrong. Here three computers are activated using the same OEM CD.
WRONG! Stop spreading incorrect information!

Actually you are the one who is misinformed. TTBOMK OEM MS operating system have never been allowed to be transferred to another computer. This info has already been discussed on several occasion in numerous threads for quite some time. The PCPer author is lying in order to obtain the confirmation ID. This is a clear violation of the OEM licensing agreement and considered casual piracy by Microsoft.

After talking with a very much out-sourced representative, who simply asked me if I was "using this software on any other system any more" and I said 'no', they supplied me with the corresponding 54-digit confirmation ID.

Therefore if you don't have a problem lying, and don't feel the need to adhere to software EULAS, then I suppose you don't have anything to worry about.

 

[crossrode]

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: crossrode

Originally posted by: Navid

Originally posted by: crossrode
The only difference between retail and OEM is technical support.

Of course that is not true!
You can easily search and see that an OEM license gets tied to the hardware. I am not interested in arguing if the license agreement is legal or not.
But, based on the license agreement, you cannot install an OEM license on another machine even if you remove it from the original.

Wrong. Here three computers are activated using the same OEM CD.
WRONG! Stop spreading incorrect information!

Actually you are the one who is misinformed. TTBOMK OEM MS operating system have never been allowed to be transferred to another computer. This info has already been discussed on several occasion in numerous threads for quite some time. The PCPer author is lying in order to obtain the confirmation ID. This is a clear violation of the OEM licensing agreement and considered casual piracy by Microsoft.

After talking with a very much out-sourced representative, who simply asked me if I was "using this software on any other system any more" and I said 'no', they supplied me with the corresponding 54-digit confirmation ID.

Therefore if you don't have a problem lying, and don't feel the need to adhere to software EULAS, then I suppose you don't have anything to worry about.

Vista is the same as XP at this point in it's lifespan where activation is concerned. You are making pointless discussion. You are wrong.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: crossrode
Vista is the same as XP at this point in it's lifespan where activation is concerned. You are making pointless discussion. You are wrong.

I'm interested in how you come to the conclusion that I am wrong. :roll: Once you are finished posting your opinion I will be delighted to quote facts direct from the Microsoft EULA and link you to the source. I'll also be happy to have a MS regional rep contact you directly in case you still have any misconceptions.

 

[crossrode]

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: crossrode
Vista is the same as XP at this point in it's lifespan where activation is concerned. You are making pointless discussion. You are wrong.

I'm interested in how you come to the conclusion that I am wrong. :roll: Once you are finished posting your opinion I will be delighted to quote facts direct from the Microsoft EULA and link you to the source. I'll also be happy to have a MS regional rep contact you directly in case you still have any misconceptions.

John. I have rerad the information from MS about EUL you are offering to post. Please read the information on the link I posted in this thread. Get back to me when you have read it.

 

[crossrode]

Your welcome Navid.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: crossrode
John. I have rerad the information from MS about EUL you are offering to post. Please read the information on the link I posted in this thread. Get back to me when you have read it.

The only link I see that you posted is the PCPer article, and I commented on that in my OP.

Here are a few facts from the Vista OEM EULAs.

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That device is the ?licensed device.? A hardware partition is considered to be a separate device.

[*]a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.

 

[ebeattie]

Well, what I was trying to get at with my OP, is curiosity over the ability to get access to the 64bit version as I have heard that you can get with Vista retail.

I am a new sound card away from being completely done upgrading my hardware and I hope that I get this Vista thing sorted out.

So from what I understand, if I dont upgrade my motherboard or other major components (RAM, CPU ect.) then I am free to format install an OEM version of Windows Vista Home Premium on that machine as many times as I wish?

I am currently running and OEM version of XP home on my system and have format reinstalled on serveral occations (alot in fact). Will I be able to do the same with an OEM copy of Vista on my mahcine ( assuming I dont change any major hardware)?

 

[jkresh]

yes you can reinstall as many times as you want with the same hardware, the only time you will have problems is if you change something big (I think cpu and ram are ok, motherboard is not and too many small components could also cause a problem).

 

[ebeattie]

Thanks! Thats the answer I was looking for.

As far as a single cd key on multiple instances, Im just going to be direct and get an OEM copy of Home Basic. Its going to be installed on a PC thats going to be internet, media only and will not be handling anything graphics intensive. believe me, the hardware in my second computer is basically everything out of my first 939 system (sans RAM and hard drive if you can believe it) from 2 years ago... over the course of those two years, its earned its retirement! Lol, I literally upgraded my main rig into a new computer!