Of CPUs, Packaging, and Mobos

[CrutchIsHeavy]

I'm trying to look into some relatively old standards for CPUs and Mobos in the desktop and server markets because I need to learn about upgrading and I've gotten my head in a tizzy.

Let me get right into it (corrections and additions please!):

PIIIs came out (I forgot the name of the original PIII core, Katami?) in Slot 1 packaging and I think they went up to speeds of 733 MHz with this particular core.

PIII Coppermine cores where then introduced, also in Slot 1 packaging, going up to 933Mhz with this particular core.

PIII Coppermines then recieved new packaging in Socket 370 form, and Intel released slower speeds of this packaging starting with around 800Mhz up to new speeds of 1GHz+ (any got the exact speed the PIII CUmine 370s stopped at?).

The .13 micron Tualatin cores where then introduced for the PIII, down from the CUmines .18, allowing for even higher speeds? How fast did the .13 core take the Tualatin PIIIs? The Tualatin were also packaged in 370, right?

Then the P4s? Socket 423 and now socket 478?

I still need to ask about some corresponding mobos with each incarnation of processor.
I also need to chart a similar progression with the Athlons but I've got to run. I'll be back to check up.

 

[Rand]

<< PIIIs came out (I forgot the name of the original PIII core, Katami?) in Slot 1 packaging and I think they went up to speeds of 733 MHz with this particular core. >>



The orginal PIII core was the Katmai, it was available only in Slot 1 and ranged from 450-600MHz in clockspeed.



<< PIII Coppermine cores where then introduced, also in Slot 1 packaging, going up to 933Mhz with this particular core. >>


Coppermine PIII was released simultaneously in FCPGA Socket370 and Slot1 subsequent to the Katmai.
The Slot1 Coppermine ranged from 550MHz to 1GHz in clockspeed.
The FCPGA PIII Coppermine ranged from 500MHz to 1.1GHz in clockspeed.



<< PIII Coppermines then recieved new packaging in Socket 370 form, and Intel released slower speeds of this packaging starting with around 800Mhz up to new speeds of 1GHz+ (any got the exact speed the PIII CUmine 370s stopped at?). >>



FCPGA Socket 370 Coppermine processors were released at the same time as the Slot1 Coppermine's. Gradually Intel faded out the Slot1's until all PIII's produced were FCPGA S370.
FCPGA S370 PIII's were available as low as 500MHz and as high as 1.1GHz.



<< The .13 micron Tualatin cores where then introduced for the PIII, down from the CUmines .18, allowing for even higher speeds? How fast did the .13 core take the Tualatin PIIIs? The Tualatin were also packaged in 370, right? >>



The Tualatin core also uses FCPGA Socket370 however the pin-outs are different then the Coppermine processor and the two are not compatible.
The Tualatin core is available from 1.13GHz to 1.26GHz with L2 cache sizes ranging from 256KB to 512KB.
It is quite possible that it may yet scale further.




<< Then the P4s? Socket 423 and now socket 478? >>


The current Willamette P4 is available in S423 and S478. The upcoming Northwood core will be available only in S478.
S423 Willamette P4's are available from 1.3GHz to 2.0GHz, S478 Willamette P4's are available from 1.5GHz to 2.0GHz

 

[CrutchIsHeavy]

Damn, I wasn't even close. Trying to recollect from memory did me no good, but at least I got a response.

I'm going to try my hand the Athlon now and do equally as poor. Thanks for you reply.

All socket A...

First Athlon- 500 something GHz- to 1 GHz? 200 FSB only?

Then T-Bird- 850 GHz to 1.4 GHz? 266 FSB?

Then Althon MP- 1.0 GHz to eventually 1800+? 266 FSB.

Then Athlon XP- 1500+ to 1900+. 266 FSB.

Athlon-C the same as the T-Bird?

Yeah I'm pretty sure I messed that one up.

 

[Rand]

<< First Athlon- 500 something GHz- to 1 GHz? 200 FSB only? >>


AMD Athlon 500MHz to 950MHz is 200MHz FSB only.
There are also Athlon's on the 200MHz FSB at 1GHz-1.4GHz.



<< Then T-Bird- 850 GHz to 1.4 GHz? 266 FSB? >>


Athlon's are available on the 266MHz FSB at clockspeeds of 1GHz, 1.13GHz, 1.2GHz, 1.33GHz, 1.4GHz, 1.47, 1.53, and 1.6GHz.

Keep in mind I'm referring specifically to their specified clockspeed in each case, and not referencing their Model # Rating.



<< Then Althon MP- 1.0 GHz to eventually 1800+? 266 FSB. >>


AthlonMP is only available on a 266MHz FSB at clockspeeds of 1GHz, 1.2GHz, 1.33GHz, 1.4GHz, 1.47GHz, and 1.53GHz.



<< Then Athlon XP- 1500+ to 1900+. 266 FSB. >>


All AthlonXP processors are 266MHz FSB and are available at clockspeeds of 1.33GHz to 1.6GHz, and range in Model rating from 1500+ to 1900+.



<< Athlon-C the same as the T-Bird? >>



Athlon-C refers to an AMD Athlon processor based on the Thunderbird core using a 266MHz FSB.


I'm not sure if your aware of this but there are multiple different cores available under the "Athlon" brand name. There is the K7, K7-5, Thunderbird, and Palomino cores.

The K7 was the original "classic" Athlon built on a .25u process and available at clockspeeds of 500MHz to 700MHz, all with 512KB of off-die L2 cache. All 200MHz FSB, and all of them were SlotA processors.
The K7-5 was built upon the .18u process and was otherwise identical to the K7 core in all respects. It was available from 550MHz to 1GHz.

The Thunderbird core was also built upon a .18u process, but included 256KB of on-die L2 cache and used SocketA. It was available from 650MHz to 1.4GHz. There were both 200 and 266MHz FSB Thunderbird processors. The "Athlon-C" references a Thunderbird that uses a 266MHz FSB rather then a 200MHz FSB.

The final Athlon core currently available in the "Palomino".
All AthlonXP's and Athlon MP's utilize the Palomino core. It contains SSE support, enhanced TLB, and hardware prefatching.
All Palomino's use the 266MHz FSB.
They are available at clockspeeds of:
1.33GHz= 1500+
1.4GHz= 1600+
1.47GHz=1700+
1.43GHz= 1800+
1.6GHz= 1900+

If you have anymore questions you might wish to PM them to me directly, as then I will be assured to see them.
I think/hope this answers your questions, let me know if you wish anymore detail or need a better explanation on anything and I'll do what I can to help out.

 

[CrutchIsHeavy]

Well thank you for your time and help! This is helping my tremendously, thanks for reaching out.

My head is much less now.

I'm sending a PM your way with a small follow-up