Offensive printing on a Starbucks cup

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Whether is be a coffee cup or a newspaper article, the fact is an opinion is an OPINION. If you don't like it, tough. You can't fight and whine about not having the world your way if something doesn't float your boat. This country especially needs to get over itself and stop catering to anyone who cries wolf. Grow up.

I would agree if this weren't a situation where is a customer is offended. I don't personally mind the quote but I can see where a Christian would. It's just like when I fly Alaskan Airlines and they put a bible quote with their meals. I think it's a totally inappropriate place to prostelyze. Do I avoid flying them because of this? No, life is too short...With that being said I think it's only fair that if Starbucks is going to print pro-religion statements they also include alternate viewpoints. In the same breath, customers have every right to complain and/or stop shopping there.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: toolboxolio

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: toolboxolio

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
She needs to go to the website and respond with thewaysheseesit

Why???

She believes in Christ.... she is apparently right and needs to be compensated for others questioning her super strong faith.

I think there's a little bit of difference between somebody questioning your faith ("Why do you believe what you believe? What has led you to this point?") and making an indirect insult ("You're an idiot because you believe in something that's a figment of your imagination.") I'm not necessarily going to start buying exclusively Tully's coffee because of this but I don't really think that particular quote was the best way to promote open, respectful conversation among a wide variety of individuals.

How is it not different that printing "GOT GOD?" on 100's of billboards across the nation?
Other end of the spectrum is much more disrespectful.... MUCH MORE.

The difference is that you pay for one and not the other. If you are offended by the Starbucks cups, nifty, vote with your dollars and shop somewhere else. Starbucks has the right to print whatever they want. If somebody's bothered by it and they take their business elsewhere, that's Starbucks choice to make. All I was saying is that I did see her point that the phrase is more likely to be seen as insulting rather than a conversation starter.

 

[grrl]

The cup doesn't offend me but the idiot complaining does as does Starbucks with their overpriced, mediocre coffee.

EDIT: The comments on the newspaper site make YouTube's seem intelligent.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Whether is be a coffee cup or a newspaper article, the fact is an opinion is an OPINION. If you don't like it, tough. You can't fight and whine about not having the world your way if something doesn't float your boat. This country especially needs to get over itself and stop catering to anyone who cries wolf. Grow up.

I would agree if this weren't a situation where is a customer is offended. I don't personally mind the quote but I can see where a Christian would. It's just like when I fly Alaskan Airlines and they put a bible quote with their meals. I think it's a totally inappropriate place to prostelyze. Do I avoid flying them because of this? No, life is too short...

There's no rule that says a corporation can't offend customers though. And honestly, I think very few people would be sufficiently offended by this that it would become an issue for Starbucks. There are greater assaults on faith every day; the lines on a coffee cup aren't a big deal except to a reporter filling space on a slow news day.

 

[IGBT]

..eco-theism rears it's ugly head on a cup of coffee.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: HotChic
The difference is that you pay for one and not the other. If you are offended by the Starbucks cups, nifty, vote with your dollars and shop somewhere else. Starbucks has the right to print whatever they want. If somebody's bothered by it and they take their business elsewhere, that's Starbucks choice to make. All I was saying is that I did see her point that the phrase is more likely to be seen as insulting rather than a conversation starter.

The only reason it's more likely to be insulting is because it's more likely that the person is the type that follows the "if you disagree with me then you are insulting me" mentality that plagues way too many religious people. Not all of them, but a lot.

 

[txrandom]

Call the whaambulance for her!

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: HotChic
There's no rule that says a corporation can't offend customers though. And honestly, I think very few people would be sufficiently offended by this that it would become an issue for Starbucks. There are greater assaults on faith every day; the lines on a coffee cup aren't a big deal except to a reporter filling space on a slow news day.

I agree there's no constitutional guarantee that you won't be offended in your daily life. However, IMO a customer has a reasonable expectation not to be offended by a company they patronize. I can definitely see where a Christian would be offended by Starbuck's attempt to be pervokative. I also think we are mostly making the same point(s)

 

[feralkid]

A$$ kicking assault incurred by faith shattering slogan rendered via coffee cup;
all units respond...

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: HotChic
The difference is that you pay for one and not the other. If you are offended by the Starbucks cups, nifty, vote with your dollars and shop somewhere else. Starbucks has the right to print whatever they want. If somebody's bothered by it and they take their business elsewhere, that's Starbucks choice to make. All I was saying is that I did see her point that the phrase is more likely to be seen as insulting rather than a conversation starter.

The only reason it's more likely to be insulting is because it's more likely that the person is the type that follows the "if you disagree with me then you are insulting me" mentality that plagues way too many religious people. Not all of them, but a lot.

Indeed. I work with a person (who happens to be extremely smart) who has real trouble understanding how I could possibly not believe in a "higher power". This woman appears to take that to something of an extreme. What she should do is just suck it up and move on.

 

[Journer]

its a private company....they should be able to put 'all coffee drinking women are nappy ho'z" and not have any legal repercussions...its their damn cup...not hers...if she wants to bitch and complain about it she should go get coffee elsewhere

 

[Vic]

Why should she be offended? God is the power inside oneself. What offends me is that the woman, the author of the printing on the cup, and every person in this thread is too stuck on their little petty religious/anti-religious bickering to be able to remember that. Should we say Yay for the mega-corp that stirs up dissent in the name of profits?

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Whether is be a coffee cup or a newspaper article, the fact is an opinion is an OPINION. If you don't like it, tough. You can't fight and whine about not having the world your way if something doesn't float your boat. This country especially needs to get over itself and stop catering to anyone who cries wolf. Grow up.

I would agree if this weren't a situation where is a customer is offended. I don't personally mind the quote but I can see where a Christian would. It's just like when I fly Alaskan Airlines and they put a bible quote with their meals. I think it's a totally inappropriate place to prostelyze. Do I avoid flying them because of this? No, life is too short...

There's no rule that says a corporation can't offend customers though. And honestly, I think very few people would be sufficiently offended by this that it would become an issue for Starbucks. There are greater assaults on faith every day; the lines on a coffee cup aren't a big deal except to a reporter filling space on a slow news day.

Agreed. The woman isn't suing, so this isn't news worthy.

 

[Xstatic1]

religion & politics will always be a touchy subject for some folks. and i think it also depends on which part of the country you live in (i.e. conservative values) on whether or not you're offended by others' opinions.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Journer
its a private company....they should be able to put 'all coffee drinking women are nappy ho'z" and not have any legal repercussions...its their damn cup...not hers...if she wants to bitch and complain about it she should go get coffee elsewhere

Where did the article mention legal repercussions? Maybe you should learn to read, she is going to get her coffee elsewhere from now on. Capitalism FTW!

 

[A Casual Fitz]

What, so should I be offended every time I see something mentioning that God exists?? Give me a fvckin' break.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz
What, so should I be offended every time I see something mentioning that God exists?? Give me a fvckin' break.

Only if you think atheism is a religion, and your lack of belief a faith. Otherwise, what would you have to be offended about?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz
What, so should I be offended every time I see something mentioning that God exists?? Give me a fvckin' break.

Only if you think atheism is a religion, and your lack of belief a faith. Otherwise, what would you have to be offended about?

shame on you for bringing logic into an irrational thread

 

[herkulease]

I never notice the print this on their cups. Is it smack dap in the middle?

I know In and out prints stuff but its underneath their cups. which only time I see it is when its in teh garage. Or at least notice there is something printed on teh bottom besides some lot number, 1st time. after that I knew they printed things there.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Who cares? So she won't buy their coffee anymore (more than likely this will only last a few weeks). Consumers vote with their dollars. If she doesn't like that Starbucks promotes the sharing of ideas which may be different from her own, then so be it.

 

[Mrfrog840]

no because its someones opinion, and not starbucks or hers....

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: herkulease
I never notice the print this on their cups. Is it smack dap in the middle?

I know In and out prints stuff but its underneath their cups. which only time I see it is when its in teh garage. Or at least notice there is something printed on teh bottom besides some lot number, 1st time. after that I knew they printed things there.

It's one of many random ones on the side.

 

[chiwawa626]

Odd, I don't seem to mind much about all the Christian mumbo jumbo thats printed on random fast food cups (In & Out) and other random packaging I come across every day.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
omg, i'm offended by every penny :roll:

That was pretty much my thought when I saw this article.

 

[TallBill]

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