***Offficial Rock Band 2 Thread****

[jdport]

it's been that way since GH1.... the game is what it is. It's no different than sports games... how different is Madden 09 from Madden 08 from Madden 07? A couple of new features here and there, a couple of bug fixes here and there and a roster update. The game stays the same, and people still pay the money. Guitar Hero and Rock Band are the same type of thing, and the changes made were really good changes, with one arguably bad change and the song pack is a HUGE song pack. I have no problem paying for RB2. It's not like GH Aerosmith which was only 30 main tracks and no game change whatsoever, or worse yet GH:80's which was horrible (gamewise, good songs but terrible otherwise).

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: jbourne77
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that RB2 is getting a huge pass on what amounts to a large song pack? I mean, if this were Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, etc., this would equate to a large map pack, and people would be throwing fits over the $59.99 price tag.

This game is 95% new songs and 5% "new game"... should have been $39.99.

On a side note, I think the songs themselves are generally "bleh". Some good ones in there, but not many. In all fairness, I knew this going in.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Music games, especially popular ones, rarely change their formula as it isn't necessary. What the hell else did you want?

What the "hell" else did I want? Did you not read/understand the analogy? It's no different than a map pack for a shooter. If COD4 released 15 new maps on a DVD for $59.99, you don't think people would be kicking up dust?

I expected an updated interface of some sort. They even recycled the menus. Some sort of veiled attempt at slight innovation would have been nice. For a top-tier price tag, that's what the hell I want.

DLC for this game is $2 a song. The game comes with 104 songs for $60. I would hardly call that a ripoff.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: jbourne77
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that RB2 is getting a huge pass on what amounts to a large song pack? I mean, if this were Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, etc., this would equate to a large map pack, and people would be throwing fits over the $59.99 price tag.

This game is 95% new songs and 5% "new game"... should have been $39.99.

On a side note, I think the songs themselves are generally "bleh". Some good ones in there, but not many. In all fairness, I knew this going in.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Music games, especially popular ones, rarely change their formula as it isn't necessary. What the hell else did you want?

What the "hell" else did I want? Did you not read/understand the analogy? It's no different than a map pack for a shooter. If COD4 released 15 new maps on a DVD for $59.99, you don't think people would be kicking up dust?

I expected an updated interface of some sort. They even recycled the menus. Some sort of veiled attempt at slight innovation would have been nice. For a top-tier price tag, that's what the hell I want.

DLC for this game is $2 a song. The game comes with 104 songs for $60. I would hardly call that a ripoff.

Fair enough, but still a little put off by the lack of "forward movement" in the franchise. I love RB, don't get me wrong, but this year's Madden crushes last year's .

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: jbourne77
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that RB2 is getting a huge pass on what amounts to a large song pack? I mean, if this were Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, etc., this would equate to a large map pack, and people would be throwing fits over the $59.99 price tag.

This game is 95% new songs and 5% "new game"... should have been $39.99.

On a side note, I think the songs themselves are generally "bleh". Some good ones in there, but not many. In all fairness, I knew this going in.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Music games, especially popular ones, rarely change their formula as it isn't necessary. What the hell else did you want?

What the "hell" else did I want? Did you not read/understand the analogy? It's no different than a map pack for a shooter. If COD4 released 15 new maps on a DVD for $59.99, you don't think people would be kicking up dust?

I expected an updated interface of some sort. They even recycled the menus. Some sort of veiled attempt at slight innovation would have been nice. For a top-tier price tag, that's what the hell I want.

DLC for this game is $2 a song. The game comes with 104 songs for $60. I would hardly call that a ripoff.

Fair enough, but still a little put off by the lack of "forward movement" in the franchise. I love RB, don't get me wrong, but this year's Madden crushes last year's .

Its worth every penny. I for one love it and I am sure any issues will be patched. I just cant get over the old hippy dude singing "We Got The Beat". Funny shit!.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: jbourne77
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that RB2 is getting a huge pass on what amounts to a large song pack? I mean, if this were Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, etc., this would equate to a large map pack, and people would be throwing fits over the $59.99 price tag.

This game is 95% new songs and 5% "new game"... should have been $39.99.

On a side note, I think the songs themselves are generally "bleh". Some good ones in there, but not many. In all fairness, I knew this going in.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Music games, especially popular ones, rarely change their formula as it isn't necessary. What the hell else did you want?

What the "hell" else did I want? Did you not read/understand the analogy? It's no different than a map pack for a shooter. If COD4 released 15 new maps on a DVD for $59.99, you don't think people would be kicking up dust?

I expected an updated interface of some sort. They even recycled the menus. Some sort of veiled attempt at slight innovation would have been nice. For a top-tier price tag, that's what the hell I want.

DLC for this game is $2 a song. The game comes with 104 songs for $60. I would hardly call that a ripoff.

Fair enough, but still a little put off by the lack of "forward movement" in the franchise. I love RB, don't get me wrong, but this year's Madden crushes last year's .

That's fine, but do you have any complaints about RB1 that are present in RB2? Because I think they address damn near every one of my complaints. I wanted to be able to free style the drums, cheap-o electric drumset style... done. I wanted to be able to use any character I created with any instrument...done. I wanted people to join/leave a band at will without screwing up any of the other members still remaining... done.

Again, if it's not broken don't fix it. You can't compare shooters and music games, you know they aren't the same. You expect a sequel to a shooter to update graphics, keep up decent multiplayer, and other things. All you need in a music game is MORE MUSIC. So I ask, what the hell else were you expecting? What do you want that you didn't get? Why change menus when there were no complaints about them?

 

[RedRooster]

Did anyone find the best way to unlock all the songs legitimately?
I don't have the game yet, but I need everything unlocked for tonight. I'm reading threads about people going through each marathon "level" and playing one song from each to unlock the next. But its kids writing them, so they don't make sense. :laugh:
Anyone here have a tip?

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Did anyone find the best way to unlock all the songs legitimately?
I don't have the game yet, but I need everything unlocked for tonight. I'm reading threads about people going through each marathon "level" and playing one song from each to unlock the next. But its kids writing them, so they don't make sense. :laugh:
Anyone here have a tip?

Um... that's the tip. Play the marathons, as when you unlock other marathons they open anywhere from 4-8 new songs at a time. The kids make perfect sense.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Did anyone find the best way to unlock all the songs legitimately?
I don't have the game yet, but I need everything unlocked for tonight. I'm reading threads about people going through each marathon "level" and playing one song from each to unlock the next. But its kids writing them, so they don't make sense. :laugh:
Anyone here have a tip?

Theres a cheat that unlocks all the songs. Go to IGN and look it up.

 

[RedRooster]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Did anyone find the best way to unlock all the songs legitimately?
I don't have the game yet, but I need everything unlocked for tonight. I'm reading threads about people going through each marathon "level" and playing one song from each to unlock the next. But its kids writing them, so they don't make sense. :laugh:
Anyone here have a tip?

Um... that's the tip. Play the marathons, as when you unlock other marathons they open anywhere from 4-8 new songs at a time. The kids make perfect sense.

That's it then, there's no special sequence or anything?

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Did anyone find the best way to unlock all the songs legitimately?
I don't have the game yet, but I need everything unlocked for tonight. I'm reading threads about people going through each marathon "level" and playing one song from each to unlock the next. But its kids writing them, so they don't make sense. :laugh:
Anyone here have a tip?

Um... that's the tip. Play the marathons, as when you unlock other marathons they open anywhere from 4-8 new songs at a time. The kids make perfect sense.

That's it then, there's no special sequence or anything?

You just play one per each of the seven challenge levels, you don't have to do every marathon at each level.

 

[nycxandy]

glenn beck, have you received your Ion drum kit?

 

[abaez]

If anyone is having issues with crosstalk this thread has a possible fix: http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81358 that worked for me.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: jbourne77
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that RB2 is getting a huge pass on what amounts to a large song pack? I mean, if this were Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, etc., this would equate to a large map pack, and people would be throwing fits over the $59.99 price tag.

This game is 95% new songs and 5% "new game"... should have been $39.99.

On a side note, I think the songs themselves are generally "bleh". Some good ones in there, but not many. In all fairness, I knew this going in.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Music games, especially popular ones, rarely change their formula as it isn't necessary. What the hell else did you want?

What the "hell" else did I want? Did you not read/understand the analogy? It's no different than a map pack for a shooter. If COD4 released 15 new maps on a DVD for $59.99, you don't think people would be kicking up dust?

I expected an updated interface of some sort. They even recycled the menus. Some sort of veiled attempt at slight innovation would have been nice. For a top-tier price tag, that's what the hell I want.

DLC for this game is $2 a song. The game comes with 104 songs for $60. I would hardly call that a ripoff.

Fair enough, but still a little put off by the lack of "forward movement" in the franchise. I love RB, don't get me wrong, but this year's Madden crushes last year's .

That's fine, but do you have any complaints about RB1 that are present in RB2? Because I think they address damn near every one of my complaints. I wanted to be able to free style the drums, cheap-o electric drumset style... done. I wanted to be able to use any character I created with any instrument...done. I wanted people to join/leave a band at will without screwing up any of the other members still remaining... done.

Again, if it's not broken don't fix it. You can't compare shooters and music games, you know they aren't the same. You expect a sequel to a shooter to update graphics, keep up decent multiplayer, and other things. All you need in a music game is MORE MUSIC. So I ask, what the hell else were you expecting? What do you want that you didn't get? Why change menus when there were no complaints about them?

You are a persistent little fanboy!

The biggest complaint lodged against Rock Band was the guitar experience. I wouldn't say it sucked, but it's certainly not on par with Guitar Hero. I know a degree of that is the result of having to pick songs that are also good on the drums and for singing, but there is a certain "feel" that Rock Band lacks that GH has... it's almost like a "punch", if you will.

One thing that's easy to pinpoint is the difficulty. Rock Band's Medium is WAY too easy; it's so dumbed down, in fact, that the track hardly resembles the song you are playing. To the real rhythm of the song or a track that's remotely similar to the song, you have to play on Hard, which adds the 5th fret and raises the difficulty more than just a notch or two. Guitar Hero's Medium difficulty is the best of both world's for many people: it challenges you on 4 frets without losing the feel of the song.

Of all the complaints I read about Rock Band, this one was the most frequently stated and one I certainly share... and one that Harmonix didn't address at all.

Another is that the game has a sterile look and feel to it. GH's presentation is very organic and it helps to further pull you in. Rock Band - while a blast with 3+ people - is a yawn fest with one person, and I'm certainly not alone in this feeling. The only reason it's fun with 4 people is because of the party factor. Without the party factor carrying the game, it's kind of boring. GH obviously lacks the party experience, but what's interesting is that it can stand on it's own without it (if you're a guitar player).

So again, that's what the hell I was looking for.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: jbourne77
You are a persistent little fanboy!

The biggest complaint lodged against Rock Band was the guitar experience. I wouldn't say it sucked, but it's certainly not on par with Guitar Hero. I know a degree of that is the result of having to pick songs that are also good on the drums and for singing, but there is a certain "feel" that Rock Band lacks that GH has... it's almost like a "punch", if you will.

One thing that's easy to pinpoint is the difficulty. Rock Band's Medium is WAY too easy; it's so dumbed down, in fact, that the track hardly resembles the song you are playing. To the real rhythm of the song or a track that's remotely similar to the song, you have to play on Hard, which adds the 5th fret and raises the difficulty more than just a notch or two. Guitar Hero's Medium difficulty is the best of both world's for many people: it challenges you on 4 frets without losing the feel of the song.

Of all the complaints I read about Rock Band, this one was the most frequently stated and one I certainly share... and one that Harmonix didn't address at all.

Another is that the game has a sterile look and feel to it. GH's presentation is very organic and it helps to further pull you in. Rock Band - while a blast with 3+ people - is a yawn fest with one person, and I'm certainly not alone in this feeling. The only reason it's fun with 4 people is because of the party factor. Without the party factor carrying the game, it's kind of boring. GH obviously lacks the party experience, but what's interesting is that it can stand on it's own without it (if you're a guitar player).

So again, that's what the hell I was looking for.

My turn to be a fanboy.

-GH looks dumb. The art style is crap
-GH overcharts to make things artificially harder.
-GH The GH timing window is so lax you can mash buttons during hopos and still hit most of them.
-RB2 is much harder than RB1 especially on drums. Medium is for noobs so why are you basing comparisons on that anyway?
-RB2 better songs but obviously that is just opinion.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: jbourne77
You are a persistent little fanboy!

The biggest complaint lodged against Rock Band was the guitar experience. I wouldn't say it sucked, but it's certainly not on par with Guitar Hero. I know a degree of that is the result of having to pick songs that are also good on the drums and for singing, but there is a certain "feel" that Rock Band lacks that GH has... it's almost like a "punch", if you will.

One thing that's easy to pinpoint is the difficulty. Rock Band's Medium is WAY too easy; it's so dumbed down, in fact, that the track hardly resembles the song you are playing. To the real rhythm of the song or a track that's remotely similar to the song, you have to play on Hard, which adds the 5th fret and raises the difficulty more than just a notch or two. Guitar Hero's Medium difficulty is the best of both world's for many people: it challenges you on 4 frets without losing the feel of the song.

Of all the complaints I read about Rock Band, this one was the most frequently stated and one I certainly share... and one that Harmonix didn't address at all.

Another is that the game has a sterile look and feel to it. GH's presentation is very organic and it helps to further pull you in. Rock Band - while a blast with 3+ people - is a yawn fest with one person, and I'm certainly not alone in this feeling. The only reason it's fun with 4 people is because of the party factor. Without the party factor carrying the game, it's kind of boring. GH obviously lacks the party experience, but what's interesting is that it can stand on it's own without it (if you're a guitar player).

So again, that's what the hell I was looking for.

My turn to be a fanboy.

-GH looks dumb. The art style is crap
-GH overcharts to make things artificially harder.
-GH The GH timing window is so lax you can mash buttons during hopos and still hit most of them.
-RB2 is much harder than RB1 especially on drums. Medium is for noobs so why are you basing comparisons on that anyway?
-RB2 better songs but obviously that is just opinion.

RB2 might be harder on drums, but it's not harder on guitar by any stretch. Everything else you said is merely your opinion, and a minority one at that.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

I don't think it is a minority opinion that gh looks like crap

It certainly isn't opinion that they overchart or that the timing window is ridiculously long and stupid.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
I don't think it is a minority opinion that gh looks like crap

It certainly isn't opinion that they overchart or that the timing window is ridiculously long and stupid.

No one argues that they overchart or that the window is larger; that's not what's in dispute. What's in dispute is which is MORE FUN, and if you're a guitar player, the general consensus is that GH is more fun and immersive. The window is larger, but more notes makes up for it, and the net result is a more engaging experience. If I gave a fuck about how realistic it was, I'd pick up my real guitar.

Look buddy, someone asked me what I was looking for in RB2, and this is it. This is what a LOT of guitarists were looking for in RB2. If you're happy with RB2, that's great, but people aren't required to agree with you. Rock Band does the whole party experience well, but it's hard to really measure it without any other players on the scene. If GHWT can live up to RB's bar AND keep their guitar roots in tact, you'll see a shift I believe. GH's biggest weakness has been DLC, NOT guitar.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
I don't think it is a minority opinion that gh looks like crap

It certainly isn't opinion that they overchart or that the timing window is ridiculously long and stupid.

I really hate the GH graphics. I love the clear fret-board in RB which GH:WT will be aping. But I am glad they are copying the clear fret. I dont dislike the GH series, the guitar is much harder and fun to play on GH, but then again it is called Guitar Hero, and Rockband is called Rockband for a reason. If you want harder guitar in RB play hard or expert. The only time I play on medium is when I am playing some anonymous person online in tug-of-war mode or duel mode. They both have their pluses and minuses but as long as they keep coming out I will keep buying them because I love music and even tho I play real guitar and bass I get a blast out of these games.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
I don't think it is a minority opinion that gh looks like crap

It certainly isn't opinion that they overchart or that the timing window is ridiculously long and stupid.

No one argues that they overchart or that the window is larger; that's not what's in dispute. What's in dispute is which is MORE FUN, and if you're a guitar player, the general consensus is that GH is more fun and immersive. The window is larger, but more notes makes up for it, and the net result is a more engaging experience. If I gave a fuck about how realistic it was, I'd pick up my real guitar.

Look buddy, someone asked me what I was looking for in RB2, and this is it. This is what a LOT of guitarists were looking for in RB2. If you're happy with RB2, that's great, but people aren't required to agree with you. Rock Band does the whole party experience well, but it's hard to really measure it without any other players on the scene. If GHWT can live up to RB's bar AND keep their guitar roots in tact, you'll see a shift I believe. GH's biggest weakness has been DLC, NOT guitar.

Lol Look buddy lol.


Is GH guitar harder? Yes I never said it wasn't. Is it more fun? Not in my opinion. GH2 was more fun GH3 is crap IMO. It is my opinion you don't have to agree with me or cry about it.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
I don't think it is a minority opinion that gh looks like crap

It certainly isn't opinion that they overchart or that the timing window is ridiculously long and stupid.

No one argues that they overchart or that the window is larger; that's not what's in dispute. What's in dispute is which is MORE FUN, and if you're a guitar player, the general consensus is that GH is more fun and immersive. The window is larger, but more notes makes up for it, and the net result is a more engaging experience. If I gave a fuck about how realistic it was, I'd pick up my real guitar.

Look buddy, someone asked me what I was looking for in RB2, and this is it. This is what a LOT of guitarists were looking for in RB2. If you're happy with RB2, that's great, but people aren't required to agree with you. Rock Band does the whole party experience well, but it's hard to really measure it without any other players on the scene. If GHWT can live up to RB's bar AND keep their guitar roots in tact, you'll see a shift I believe. GH's biggest weakness has been DLC, NOT guitar.

Lol Look buddy lol.


Is GH guitar harder? Yes I never said it wasn't. Is it more fun? Not in my opinion. GH2 was more fun GH3 is crap IMO. It is my opinion you don't have to agree with me or cry about it.

Yeah, disagreeing = crying :roll:

It obviously bothers a few of you fanboys so much that you act personally offended when someone doesn't think RB2 was The Second Coming, but what can you expect from someone who substitutes numbers for letters in his name.

It's as if you've been tasked by a holy entity to defend all that is RB2. Get over it.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
I don't think it is a minority opinion that gh looks like crap

It certainly isn't opinion that they overchart or that the timing window is ridiculously long and stupid.

No one argues that they overchart or that the window is larger; that's not what's in dispute. What's in dispute is which is MORE FUN, and if you're a guitar player, the general consensus is that GH is more fun and immersive. The window is larger, but more notes makes up for it, and the net result is a more engaging experience. If I gave a fuck about how realistic it was, I'd pick up my real guitar.

Look buddy, someone asked me what I was looking for in RB2, and this is it. This is what a LOT of guitarists were looking for in RB2. If you're happy with RB2, that's great, but people aren't required to agree with you. Rock Band does the whole party experience well, but it's hard to really measure it without any other players on the scene. If GHWT can live up to RB's bar AND keep their guitar roots in tact, you'll see a shift I believe. GH's biggest weakness has been DLC, NOT guitar.

Lol Look buddy lol.


Is GH guitar harder? Yes I never said it wasn't. Is it more fun? Not in my opinion. GH2 was more fun GH3 is crap IMO. It is my opinion you don't have to agree with me or cry about it.

Yeah, disagreeing = crying :roll:

It obviously bothers a few of you fanboys so much that you act personally offended when someone doesn't think RB2 was The Second Coming, but what can you expect from someone who substitutes numbers for letters in his name.

It's as if you've been tasked by a holy entity to defend all that is RB2. Get over it.

Haha I just made a post including both opinions and facts then you started whining and attributing things to me which I didn't say.

Basically my opinion is that if GHWT has timing like GH2 it will be great except for the graphics which don't really matter. If they continue the trend in GH3 by charting more notes that don't even make sense and letting you strike the notes way off when you should then it will suck

 

[CKDragon]

"What's in dispute is which is MORE FUN, and if you're a guitar player, the general consensus is that GH is more fun and immersive."

"Everything else you said is merely your opinion, and a minority one at that."

"Rock Band - while a blast with 3+ people - is a yawn fest with one person, and I'm certainly not alone in this feeling. The only reason it's fun with 4 people is because of the party factor. Without the party factor carrying the game, it's kind of boring."

jbourne77 speaks for the masses! (...and apparently the masses are mouth-breathing idiots)

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: CKDragon

"What's in dispute is which is MORE FUN, and if you're a guitar player, the general consensus is that GH is more fun and immersive."

"Everything else you said is merely your opinion, and a minority one at that."

"Rock Band - while a blast with 3+ people - is a yawn fest with one person, and I'm certainly not alone in this feeling. The only reason it's fun with 4 people is because of the party factor. Without the party factor carrying the game, it's kind of boring."

jbourne77 speaks for the masses! (...and apparently the masses are mouth-breathing idiots)

Yay for personal insults! You've changed my mind!

If you fellas peek outside this little RB2 ass lathering thread, you'll find a lot of people with these sentiments. In fact, that's how I pinpointed what I was missing in RB and RB2. I knew it was missing something, but couldn't put my finger on it until I perused quite a few other boards/threads.

But I'm just a mouth-breathing idiot, what do I know

This place is a shit hole running rampant with petulant little brats. Someone ban me already.

 

[blurredvision]

I'll post my opinion, but I'm not going to get involved in this argument since I already have enough crap on my plate, what with the arguments in the Wii threads that I've started. I mostly agree with jbourne.

- I think GH is more fun as the single-player experience when having to choose between the two. It's more challenging and rewarding, mainly because up to this point, it's focused mainly on great guitar songs, and that's it.
- I think RB is much better with others, and not so much alone, because the song selection is mostly focused on good overall songs that are fun for a group. Lots of songs in RB have pretty simple note charts and such due to the nature of the game.

I think GHWT will end up more like RB, since the song list now resembles RB because of the band experience. As far as the difficulty goes, I'm not sure if you guys were arguing about it, but anybody who thinks RB guitar difficulty is equal or better to GH either hasn't played one or both games, or has to play on easy all the time and doesn't know the difference.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'll post my opinion, but I'm not going to get involved in this argument since I already have enough crap on my plate, what with the arguments in the Wii threads that I've started. I mostly agree with jbourne.

- I think GH is more fun as the single-player experience when having to choose between the two. It's more challenging and rewarding, mainly because up to this point, it's focused mainly on great guitar songs, and that's it.
- I think RB is much better with others, and not so much alone, because the song selection is mostly focused on good overall songs that are fun for a group. Lots of songs in RB have pretty simple note charts and such due to the nature of the game.

I think GHWT will end up more like RB, since the song list now resembles RB because of the band experience. As far as the difficulty goes, I'm not sure if you guys were arguing about it, but anybody who thinks RB guitar difficulty is equal or better to GH either hasn't played one or both games, or has to play on easy all the time and doesn't know the difference.

I agree that GH is more challenging, BUT IMO it's not any more fun solo than RB. I like being able to switch between drums and guitar when I get bored with one and keep the progress made in one (which wasn't possible in RB1). The later songs of GH3 were difficult to the point of losing the fun to frustration. Raining Blood is absolutely ridiculous and was the song that made me quit GH3. I got RB shortly afterward and GH3 hasn't been in my 360 since.

The biggest thing is that RB's DLC is fantastic. There was so many good ongoing songs that I bought that I didn't even realize RB2 was due out. It was a constant flow of good gaming.