Sorry, I was referring to the 53 yard pass that was called back. Without the hold, it was a sack.
Sorry, I was referring to the 53 yard pass that was called back. Without the hold, it was a sack.I saw him push Miller to the ground but I've never seen that called as a "hold' before.
One still left though I think...
The seasons are longer since then. Not to take anyway from that, I was a Fin fan myself att.
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Maybe what's shown is different from carrier to carrier, but I saw it replayed at least twice - the first time, I thought, "season's over for him." I was amazed to see him hobble to his feet to get on the cart.No one really nailed him it looked, just stressed it juking more than anything it appeared to me. I'd have to see it again myself.
I really had just turned it back on myself.
glenn1 seems to have been watching it closer than I, I'd have to see it again.
I just saw one fast replay.
borderline calls.. sometimes they go your way other times they dont. I am sure borderline calls have helped the Pats win games too. You can say that about all teams
Holy Cow. Watching the sports news on a Buffalo station - they're showing a ton of bad calls in the Buffalo game - long passes for the Chiefs that were obviously incomplete on replay, but were called complete and weren't challenged. A super-important Bill's first down that was ruled incomplete, but a blind person could see that it was complete. The sportscasters seem to be blaming the Bills organization for not having a clue when they should be challenging calls.
Maybe what's shown is different from carrier to carrier, but I saw it replayed at least twice - the first time, I thought, "season's over for him." I was amazed to see him hobble to his feet to get on the cart.
I don't get it how Brees can throw 5 tds a few weeks ago and then lay a total goose egg like today.
#Texans D has allowed 3 TDs over its last 18 quarters.
#Eagles D has allowed 17 TDs over its last 18 quarters.
Part-time employees, that's what the NFL says is "good enough". That's like Delta hiring student pilots and saying their 'good enough".
borderline calls.. sometimes they go your way other times they dont. I am sure borderline calls have helped the Pats win games too. You can say that about all teams
Officiating was straight up garbage in almost every game I saw this year.
Yes, the Patriots have benefitted from calls many, many times.
The Pats had a timeout and they were also at the line ready to go when the excess time out was called(About 10 seconds had already run). So they would have just snapped the ball. By running the clock that way it actually cost the Pats an extra play.
That officiating was a terrible way to end a teams undefeated season.
And yet it did not cost them the game, in any way. They tied the game and went into OT, despite bad officiating, with every reasonable chance to win the game, having the ball first.
It is the same way that Bill Buckner has nothing to do with the Sox losing the World Series, or Bartman has nothing to do with the Cubs losing the NLCS.
Plenty of opportunities to win after such events. It is pointless to speculate on "what could have happened despite x" in any sporting event ever. Every next snap without the "bad call" could have simply been a turnover as well.
Might as well argue that the Pats technically lost the superbowl last year, right? Just replace bad coach with good coach (bad refs with good refs), and Lynch gets the ball, Seattle wins, Brady and his legions of nuthuggers go home crying, yet again.
But that's stupid.
Credit due to the Pats for surviving all the bad calls and losing on their own terms. I doubt any other team in the league would have put together that final drive to tie in regulation.
The hold on Lafelle in OT was blatant and obvious, it's what got Brady all pissed off, your calling EVERY possible call against one team then the other team commits an obvious hold preventing a receiver from catching a 1st down ball and it goes uncalled. Yea, the Pats have benefited from calls but what happened tonight was just egregious in the discrepancy of the officiating. I will still tip my cap to the Broncos, when a big play was needed they came up with one, I just wanted a level playing field and the Pats were denied that tonight.
man oh man it is HILARIOUS to see pats fans after a loss, you would think that the apocalypse has landed. they are so spoiled lol.
i also didn't realize BUTCH1 was on the pats roster until this thread.
I think the "apocalypse has landed" look is more for Gronk being hurt than a close loss in a single game. The later has a fairly minimal impact on their Super Bowl hopes, whereas the first would probably completely blow a hole below the waterline in them and scuttle their post-season. Brady is going to be throwing to himself at this rate with how many offensive players they're losing.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Patriots believe Rob Gronkowski (knee) "is going to be ok." We should know more after a Monday MRI, but all early reports have suggested Gronk's knee injury is minor. He still may miss Week 13, but at this point it would be surprising if Gronk sat out more than a couple weeks. Brandon LaFell should take on an even bigger role while Gronk is sidelined, and Scott Chandler will take over at tight end.
I think the "apocalypse has landed" look is more for Gronk being hurt than a close loss in a single game. The later has a fairly minimal impact on their Super Bowl hopes, whereas the first would probably completely blow a hole below the waterline in them and scuttle their post-season. Brady is going to be throwing to himself at this rate with how many offensive players they're losing.
And yet it did not cost them the game, in any way. They tied the game and went into OT, despite bad officiating, with every reasonable chance to win the game, having the ball first.
It is the same way that Bill Buckner has nothing to do with the Sox losing the World Series, or Bartman has nothing to do with the Cubs losing the NLCS.
Plenty of opportunities to win after such events. It is pointless to speculate on "what could have happened despite x" in any sporting event ever. Every next snap without the "bad call" could have simply been a turnover as well.
Might as well argue that the Pats technically lost the superbowl last year, right? Just replace bad coach with good coach (bad refs with good refs), and Lynch gets the ball, Seattle wins, Brady and his legions of nuthuggers go home crying, yet again.
But that's stupid.
Credit due to the Pats for surviving all the bad calls and losing on their own terms. I doubt any other team in the league would have put together that final drive to tie in regulation.