Crying? No crying here but as long as you get butthurt from every Pats win, let's hope NE wins out.
i agree with you, gronk is the man, him and brady are the best duo in football.
i even wanted the patriots go to 19-0 this year after the stupid ass deflategate incident to stick it to the nfl.
but it's completely irrelevant to anything that i have said in this thread so i don't even know why you keep bringing the whole gronk thing up with me.
I'm not sure whay any of that had to do with the refs calls. Your hate for me or the Pats is making you sound irrational.
Here is someone not named Emperus (Boomer Esiason) on the calls.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/30/esiason-blasts-nfl-officials-for-letting-pats-broncos-spiral-out-of-control/
every game every weekend has questionable calls. you'd know this if you watched more than 1 game a week. everyone in the league is dealing with it. shitty officiating has been a topic every week since week 1 this year.
but it only becomes a problem when it's the reason the pats lost.
silly pats fans.
Nice straw man mixed in with a little false equivalence.
Noone is arguing whether there aren't bad calls in the league. People are trying to figure out why there seems to have been a lot more calls against the Pats vs. the Broncos for the same type of activity. The Gronkowski OPI, is a clear case of one.
But, I don't want to interject rational discussion in your trolling. Please continue.
The conspiracy theorist in me says those calls are done just for show though, and they happen when it doesn't matter whereas the rest of the league gets flagged on critical plays. Nah, it's just that everybody else plays sloppy football more often than not.
The frustrating thing about this game from Denver's side is how poor Thomas played. He had 12 or so targets with only 1 catch, and many of those catches were doable and he just didn't bother making an effort. Several times he just turned around and waited for the ball which made it quite easy to defend against. He didn't step into the catch to get away from the defender or anything. Conditions weren't great, but he looked like he wasn't even trying. He has a couple games a season where he just seems to have butterfingers, but this looked more like he didn't want to try.
They didn't lose on their own terms. They lost because the refs limited their options. When your down 4 of your top 4 offensive players and the refs put their foot on the scale. It's tough to win any game.
Brady is going to be throwing to himself at this rate with how many offensive players they're losing.
Tuck rule, lunge rule, questionable ineligible receiver plays, the Pats are always busy getting rules made for them or exploiting things that may or may not be int he books. They get their way plenty of times, a few calls are questionable and it's head explode time.
I think the late hit call on Miller given the slick conditions and his momentum was questionable myself.
OPI and DPI are both a bunch of crap, once a penalty becomes a standard go to for every 3rd and long then it's time to rewrite that rule, to me it should be a 10 yard penalty and stays same down, that way it gets rid of the 3rd and 11+ freebies.
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NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.[1]
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Jets vs. Patriots (2001)[edit]
The tuck rule was called in Week 2 of an NFL regular season match-up on September 23, 2001, between the New England Patriots and the New York Jets.[3] In the waning minutes of the second quarter, Patriots' defensive end Anthony Pleasant apparently forced Jets quarterback Vinny Testaverde to fumble the ball. Patriots' defensive end Richard Seymour made a recovery.[4] The call was overturned upon review and ruled an incomplete with the tuck rule cited. The Jets tied the game with a field goal on that drive, before going on to win 10-3.
Patriots head coach Bill Belichick referred to this game after the subsequent Tuck Rule Game, telling ESPN, "I knew what the ruling should have been because we had dealt with that play a little bit earlier in the year on the other side of it."[5]
No dude, that is not the theme.. the theme here is only the Pats are victims right now.Broncos lost 3 starters in the first half and were playing with a backup QB.
Whoosh over your head.Any one who brings up the Tuck rule as an exploit or somehow made for the PATS loses all credibility IMHO. Honestly, research what the Tuck Rule was and maybe the things you say will sound more informed.
Here I did the research for you so you won't continue sounding silly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_rule
Your hate for me or the Pats is making you sound irrational.
People are trying to figure out why there seems to have been a lot more calls against the Pats vs. the Broncos for the same type of activity.
every game every weekend has questionable calls. [...] everyone in the league is dealing with it. shitty officiating has been a topic every week since week 1 this year.
No worries there!But, I don't want to interject rational discussion...
Whoosh over your head.
The point was that rules have been made to protect the Pats in the past, they are a pampered team, I don't care about that rule in particular changed their game, the fact is they had that rule made for them along with many others. PAMPERED, get it?
Also if that rule would have applied to Peyton against the Ravens 3 years ago he would have been in another Superbowl, but no that was a Brady rule only.
I'm not interested in your tangent, the point was made that the Pats have gotten their way plenty of times in the past, they got some questionable and some appropriate calls against them last night like the other 31 teams also get all the time.Lol.. Whoosh over my head? Lol. You clearly don't know how far over your head my post was. Read it, click on the link and help yourself out. I feel embarrassed for you.
No one hates you. Many find your thin-skinned, conspiracy-tinged, fanboy martyr victimhood annoying, though.
purbeast gave you the simple, rational answer, which you emotionally rejected outright:
I mean, other than this obvious fact, what's your answer? A corrupt, league-wide ref conspiracy against the Pats? Do you realize how hysterical you sound?
No worries there!
I'm not interested in your tangent, the point was made that the Pats have gotten their way plenty of times in the past, they got some questionable and some appropriate calls against them last night like the other 31 teams also get all the time.
I'm not outraged, the Pats get calls in their favor and sometimes they don't.. those are just some examples of them getting calls in their favor. Stop making it something it isn't.Lol. Tangent. The Tangent you brought up which was the Tuck Rule? You should be embarrassed that you are outraged over something that deserves no outrage. You should equally be embarrassed you brought something up because you "heard" it somewhere without properly understanding it.
I'm not outraged, the Pats get calls in their favor and sometimes they don't.. those are just some examples of them getting calls in their favor. Stop making it something it isn't.
Why would I be outraged, the Douchetriots lost their perfect record, I'm fucking ECSTATIC!
What we have here boys is a clear case of bleeding from the asshole, take it easy on emperus guys, he isn't going to be able to sit down for a month.
and yes, that was TANGENT, you seem to be confusing that word with TANTRUM, you are doing both though.
6th time, not about that rule, about Pats getting plenty of favorable callsLol. Just admit you had no clue what u were talking about. The tuck rule was not called in the Pats favor ,it was called correctly. It was a dumb rule that was changed the next season, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a rule and thus was called correctly. In fact it was first called AGAINST the Pats in a game earlier that season.
But I don't expect Pats haters to be bright or rational in their hate. So, you are nothing from the norm.
Your posts always seem so out of middle school. Like the leader of sycophantic pre-teen girls, who can't stand on their own, coming to each others defense when they are wrong or made to look stupid.
I gave you an article of actual analysis done on Gronkowski's OPI, along with an article on Boomer Esiason's analysis of the referring situation last night. So, you can either discuss them or hurl more juvenile insults. I bet I know what you'll choose (wink).
6th time, not about that rule, about Pats getting plenty of favorable calls
Apparently, you don't realize that it's the core mission of sports commentators to look for any form of controversy and ride it for all its worth . . . because it's clickbait for their most loyal audience, hysterical middle school fanboys like you.
Like the bell ringer in Pavlov's lab, it's their damn job, the only reason they're relevant. And, right on cue, you salivate up a storm. Don't you see what an easily manipulated, fanboy tool you've become? At least try not to get any on 'ya, k?
After all this analysis, what's your bottom-line conclusion? We already know it's not the sober, obvious fact that purbeast told you -- "every game every weekend has questionable calls. [...] everyone in the league is dealing with it. shitty officiating has been a topic every week since week 1 this year." -- which you dismissed outright!
So, what is it? Again, I'm asking you. What's your alternative conclusion? That there's some corrupt, league wide, referee enforced conspiracy against NE?
Get a fucking grip, you really are embarrassing yourself.
All your arguments above honestly seem lazy to me. And generally people make those type of arguments when they are incapable of making better ones.
I'm sure you are smart enough to answer all those questions yourself if you put a little more effort into it. :sneaky:
After all this analysis, what's your bottom-line conclusion? We already know it's not the sober, obvious fact that purbeast told you -- "every game every weekend has questionable calls. [...] everyone in the league is dealing with it. shitty officiating has been a topic every week since week 1 this year." -- which you dismissed outright!
So, what is it? Again, I'm asking you. What's your alternative conclusion? That there's some corrupt, league wide, referee enforced conspiracy against NE?
Nice straw man mixed in with a little false equivalence.
Noone is arguing whether there aren't bad calls in the league. People are trying to figure out why there seems to have been a lot more calls against the Pats vs. the Broncos for the same type of activity. The Gronkowski OPI, is a clear case of one.
But, I don't want to interject rational discussion in your trolling. Please continue.