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MrSquished

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You can find well ran companies that care about their employees just fine in the states. I know because I work for one. But I do agree with you that in general it's not the case to find a well ran company. The main issue IMO is that there are a lot more poorly ran companies than well ran companies.

If by poorly ran you mean from a more socialist worker's rights perspective - work to live vs live to work then yes, but from a pure capitalist standpoint, it's an excellently run company. workers are just cogs in the machine - live to work vs work to live.
 

Red Squirrel

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You can find well ran companies that care about their employees just fine in the states. I know because I work for one. But I do agree with you that in general it's not the case to find a well ran company. The main issue IMO is that there are a lot more poorly ran companies than well ran companies.

The well ran companies are probably not publicly traded. The minute a company goes public, it goes to shit, because all they care about is the shareholders.
 

snoopy7548

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The well ran companies are probably not publicly traded. The minute a company goes public, it goes to shit, because all they care about is the shareholders.

You're right about that. The company I work for hasn't gone public, but the executives bought out all of the shareholders a few years ago and working there has improved a great deal since then.
 
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If by poorly ran you mean from a more socialist worker's rights perspective - work to live vs live to work then yes, but from a pure capitalist standpoint, it's an excellently run company. workers are just cogs in the machine - live to work vs work to live.

I think moreso what he is referring to is companies that have an inability to understand and see indirect costs.

Let me give you an example: Where my wife works in government, they don't even provide coffee. Instead, they have some kind of standard pot coffee machine with a workers rule of paying 10 cents for grabbing a cup. So again, let me clarify that: The company will not even provide coffee for their employees. Now anyone with half a brain in Business 101 can tell you that worker happiness has a shitload to do with work performance. If someone can't even get coffee that day because they don't have 10 cents because their company is too much of a cheapass to pay for it, whose fault is it ultimately? I blame the employer because if you can't see that plopping down a few hundred for some coffee + machines for better work performance then you're just fucking retarded.

Same goes for pay raises in relation to company turnover. A good chunk of employers just give their employees a mere 2-3% raise - which barely even keeps up with inflation. I mean I guess I can understand for low-skill based jobs, but the costs of employee turnover is fucking huge. I just don't understand why it's such a hard concept to keep an employee happy and avoid that high-turnover cost of having to find new employees, training new employees, etc..
 

CountZero

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If PTO is a separate pool to vacation days (like the equivalent of sick days) that's not too bad as you are essentially taking equivalent of a sick day.

If PTO is the vacation pool that's BS. It may very well be within their rights to do it but it is a crappy thing to do.
 

runzwithsizorz

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Food for thought, when a bush fire took away my cable service for a week,(mountaintop repeater), did I get a discount? NOPE.
 
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