Name calling, that's helpful and productive.
Slander and libel are crimes that are perpetrated when one abuses their freedom of speech. Could you please describe the crime one commits when they exit a popular sports venue?
Take your time, I'll wait.
Gotcha. So there's no freedom of speech, because it's limited in some ways too (slander, libel, et al).
Go away ya nutter.
Gotcha. So there's no freedom of speech, because it's limited in some ways too (slander, libel, et al).
Go away ya nutter.
Officers responded with pepper spray and pepper ballsmore than a few of which hit this guy, Alexander Davidson, who was among those taken into custody: video
was it necessary for that mini cop to forearm Mr. Davidson in the face?
Am I going to condemn all police for being in place to protect businesses and property from a bunch of stupid people rioting? Definitely not.
she was not "rioting". what if that was your sister or wife that got body checked like that for doing nothing?
She was in the vicinity of people who were, and you don't know all the details of the situation. You have a very brief look into a situation that lasted a long time.
My sister (if I had one) or wife wouldn't be dumb enough to be in a situation involving people rioting, nor would they be walking around confused.
I am not saying the officer wasn't at fault, because there is a very good chance he was and should be punished for it (and by punished, I don't mean suspended with pay). But, I am not saying, like some of the morons in this thread, that riots only turn violent because police show up and goad innocent, peacefully assembling civilians into turning into rioters.
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But, I am not saying, like some of the morons in this thread, that riots only turn violent because police show up and goad innocent, peacefully assembling civilians into turning into rioters.
That is exactly what has been happening in arizona. These are not people burning cars, looting, or causing any damage. The only violence is when the police confront some drunk kid and decide to use their boom boom toys.
These are a bunch of drunk college kids upset because police have a known history of outright killing people who are not an immediate threat.
This isn't just an arizona problem either. All over the US people are getting shot for having a phone, or game controller, or anything at all in their hand. Our militarized gang police forces are so trigger happy you have to treat them like timid dogs that can bite for no reason at all.
And don't forget, we only hear about situations that just so happen to be caught on video. This crap happens ALL the time, but if it isn't recorded then no one takes it seriously.
For many americans, the most dangerous part of their life is when they have to interact with one of these militarized gang members.
These police are just afraid for their lives. Some of the kids in Arizona had popcorn.
Good shoots, good tackles all.
The whole "people must have permit" to gather and protest is a new thing actually. A lot of cities and counties started enacting this crap not too long ago as a way to dissuade people from gathering to silently protest.
Oh man, these guys are out of control!!
No way in hell would anyone else on that police force do anything remotely good to justify their existence!!
Why keep ANY of them around?!
Sheeple,.. that's why.
I give you until July before you lose your mind trying to keep up defending all the cops in this forum.
Good luck. Fight the good fight.
Oh man, these guys are out of control!!
No way in hell would anyone else on that police force do anything remotely good to justify their existence!!
Why keep ANY of them around?!
Sheeple,.. that's why.
What people want is accountability.
First and foremost, every action should be documented via chest cam that cannot be disabled, and all video is instantly uploaded to a third party who can't be influenced by the thin blue line.
Second, they need to be treated the same as a regular citizen. For the gang member in the OP, that is jailtime. He should be permanently banned from any position with power.
Nobody it saying let's do away with police... But the special treatment is absurd and not warranted.
First and foremost, we want something incredibly expensive and unrealistic, paid for by you darling little tax payers.
Second, we need to treat them the same as people not in situations where they have to make decisions concerning life or death of themselves or others. We want them to shoulder all of the responsibility, yet we won't give them any leeway. And, when we do fine the inevitable bad apple (because they exist everywhere, even in *gasp* our liberal overlords!), we should use that to justify disparaging the entire lot of them; grouping them all together based on a similar characteristic makes it easier to control. Better not suggest that for anyone other than cops though, otherwise OMG RACIST!
Chest mounted cameras are not expensive, and have been used successfully in many places.
Most PD vehemently are against these cameras. Just like they fought against dashcams for years. They cry about how it infringes on their right to privacy... LOL
And someone paid to make decisions involving life or death should be held to higher standards, not lower ones.
The problem is not 1 or 2 bad apples. The problem is a systemic problem with looking the other way during cover-ups, gang like mentality, and the entire concept that they have fellow officers judge them for their wrongdoings.
The officer in that video should be tried in a regular courtroom, and honestly I think he should be punished far worse than a regular citizen considering he abused his position of authority with violence.
Who groups them all together? That's a strawman perpetuated by our newcomer cop jag-off.
Posting a bad cop thread does not mean you are grouping all cops together. Identifying a perp as a cop does not imply you hate cops categorically either. Stop it.
The US has almost 800,000 police. Let's say a camera costs a measly $10. That is $8 million, not counting any infrastructure.
Police also have to make decisions on when to act in an extremely limited amount of time. During a violent situation, such as a riot, they don't get the luxury to sit back at the desk and analyze the situation from afar. They get to experience what could easily turn violent and react in order to protect lives and property.
The NYPD has seen the number of claims rise 55 percent
over the last five years. In FY 2011, the City settled $185.6 million in claims involving the NYPD,