Official: 2007 NBA Playoff thread.

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Jmman
Lebron better get some support from his teammates or the Cavs are going to get swept.......

Support from his teammates? LeBust better develop a sense of urgency and do something for himself. 4-16 shooting fadeaway 20 footers isn't going to cut it.

Lol...you act like nobody has a bad game....but by all means keep the insightful Finals observations coming

Having a bad game is one thing. Being a total flop after all of the sickening hype for a week is another. This guy didn't even try to take advantage of his size and athleticism to get to the hoop. All he did was pout to the refs.

What game were you watching? They threw the kitchen sink at him, and teammates didn't make many shots to take the heat off. Hello?

This is not only a learning experience for James, but his teammates and particularly the coaching staff. Nothing to blame lebron on this one...his shot didn't fall, sh!t happens, but the spurs did an amazing team job limiting him otherwise.

And its true, bowen was nothing more than a gnat to James, but every spur got in his face whenever they were close to him on the court. And the amazing part was that the spurs played with this kind of defensive energy and concentration on James the entire time he was on the floor.

Detroit did the same thing the Spurs did, constantly send double and triple teams to him. The difference was when he played Detroit, he went to the rim and his fadeaway threes actually went down.

His teammates played good enough for the Cavs to win. 4 of them were in double figures, and they combined for 62 points in total. James usually scores what, 25 for an average game? If he would have done that, the final score would have been 87-85 in favor of the Cavs.

I'm not saying LeBron is a bad player. He is very good, but he's too inconsistent for the MJ-like hype he gets. Let him prove himself before the hype.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Jmman
Lebron better get some support from his teammates or the Cavs are going to get swept.......

Support from his teammates? LeBust better develop a sense of urgency and do something for himself. 4-16 shooting fadeaway 20 footers isn't going to cut it.

Lol...you act like nobody has a bad game....but by all means keep the insightful Finals observations coming

Having a bad game is one thing. Being a total flop after all of the sickening hype for a week is another. This guy didn't even try to take advantage of his size and athleticism to get to the hoop. All he did was pout to the refs.

What game were you watching? They threw the kitchen sink at him, and teammates didn't make many shots to take the heat off. Hello?

This is not only a learning experience for James, but his teammates and particularly the coaching staff. Nothing to blame lebron on this one...his shot didn't fall, sh!t happens, but the spurs did an amazing team job limiting him otherwise.

And its true, bowen was nothing more than a gnat to James, but every spur got in his face whenever they were close to him on the court. And the amazing part was that the spurs played with this kind of defensive energy and concentration on James the entire time he was on the floor.

Detroit did the same thing the Spurs did, constantly send double and triple teams to him. The difference was when he played Detroit, he went to the rim and his fadeaway threes actually went down.

His teammates played good enough for the Cavs to win. 4 of them were in double figures, and they combined for 62 points in total. James usually scores what, 25 for an average game? If he would have done that, the final score would have been 87-85 in favor of the Cavs.

I'm not saying LeBron is a bad player. He is very good, but he's too inconsistent for the MJ-like hype he gets. Let him prove himself before the hype.

The defense detroit played against James was girlscout compared with the team effort the spurs threw at him last night.

Its only one game tho.

 

[Yourself]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Any game involving the Spurs will be boring to anyone who isn't a student of the game.

WTH?...student of the game? What does that even mean? I do know that the Cavs shot under 40% until very late in the game and Spurs committed 14 TO's and to me that made it a boring game. The Cavs played well below their season averages and the Spurs played dead on to theirs and to me it didn't feel like an NBA finals game, just a regular season affair. I do however look forward to the adjustments in game 2...at least on the Cavs side.

Keep reading....the next sentence clears it up. I said they played dead on their averages which I believe is around 14 TO's. Cavs playing terrible, SA playing average=regular season feel=boring to me....

I never said SA player poorly or 14 TO's was a lot, to me it just didn't feel like a crisply played game as I watched it. I don't care who wins, but I want the finals to be entertaining and this game wasn't to me. I did however appreciate Duncan's performance as well as Parker's to an extent. For the Cavs, the only entertaining performance was Gibson's.

 

[supesman]

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Any game involving the Spurs will be boring to anyone who isn't a student of the game.

WTH?...student of the game? What does that even mean? I do know that the Cavs shot under 40% until very late in the game and Spurs committed 14 TO's and to me that made it a boring game. The Cavs played well below their season averages and the Spurs played dead on to theirs and to me it didn't feel like an NBA finals game, just a regular season affair. I do however look forward to the adjustments in game 2...at least on the Cavs side.

Keep reading....the next sentence clears it up. I said they played dead on their averages which I believe is around 14 TO's. Cavs playing terrible, SA playing average=regular season feel=boring to me....

I never said SA player poorly or 14 TO's was a lot, to me it just didn't feel like a crisply played game as I watched it. I don't care who wins, but I want the finals to be entertaining and this game wasn't to me. I did however appreciate Duncan's performance as well as Parker's to an extent. For the Cavs, the only entertaining performance was Gibson's.

You Didn't like Bowen's Defense?

 

[robphelan]

as for the 'Spurs are dirty' crowd - the only dirty play I saw was that flagrant to the back of manu's head

 

[Inspector Jihad]

this whole regular season vs. playoff basketball is absolute bullsh1t. every game is important...or maybe i just feel that way because i've watched AI for so many years and that dude plays his heart out every game.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Eastern Conference doesn't deserve to play against the West.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Spurs basketball

It's 80-72 Spurs late in the game. Ginobili catches the ball on the left side beyond the three-point line. He sees Duncan on the low post and wants to feed him the ball. However, Varejao is doing a good job fronting Duncan and thus preventing the pass.

Meanwhile Horry is hovering on the weak side. When Horry sees what's happening, he flashes to the foul line area and forms a Ginobili-Horry-Duncan triangle. Ginobili sees this, feeds the ball to Horry, and Horry bounces a pass to Duncan. Because Varejao is fronting Duncan, Duncan has a clear path to the basket, and Varejao's helpless. Duncan has an open path to the basket and an easy layup. It's not flashy, or even extraordinary, but it's beautiful. Good basketball players have such an incredibly intuitive understanding of space. The entire sequence described above happened in under five seconds. I can't even tie one of my shoes in that amount of time.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Spurs basketball

It's 80-72 Spurs late in the game. Ginobili catches the ball on the left side beyond the three-point line. He sees Duncan on the low post and wants to feed him the ball. However, Varejao is doing a good job fronting Duncan and thus preventing the pass.

Meanwhile Horry is hovering on the weak side. When Horry sees what's happening, he flashes to the foul line area and forms a Ginobili-Horry-Duncan triangle. Ginobili sees this, feeds the ball to Horry, and Horry bounces a pass to Duncan. Because Varejao is fronting Duncan, Duncan has a clear path to the basket, and Varejao's helpless. Duncan has an open path to the basket and an easy layup. It's not flashy, or even extraordinary, but it's beautiful. Good basketball players have such an incredibly intuitive understanding of space. The entire sequence described above happened in under five seconds. I can't even tie one of my shoes in that amount of time.

They definitely know what they're doing, altho that example is basic basketball when getting it in the post to a fronted player - go up top with it to get a better passing angle, and that's beyond basic for Duncan and Horry.

 

[elevator]

GO cleveland

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
FOR ALL YOU CLEVELAND CAVS HATERS!


Un to you I read the following scripture for the non believers.



And the prophecy read that
One day like the pheonix rose from the ashes
That a boy will be born unto a family in the slums
This boy will go on and use the knowledge that he gains
While fighting for survival in the streets
To become a BASKETBALL leader
And in time that boy will grow to become King!!!!!!

GO CAVS


BOW BEFORE YOUR KING!!!!
:shocked:

This has been a looooonnnng 4 days, how 'bout we get this party started already!!!

Go Cavs!!! :thumbsup:

I really thought the Cavs had a great chance, that in fact they'd win. But after last night's debacle I have to agree with the general sentiment that SA should be greatly favored. The Cavs seemed nowhere near as prepared as SA was. Lebron dished, and they didn't know what to do with the ball. A few times they spotted up for 3's, but they didn't have 2-3 guys spotted up like SA did when they started doing that toward the end of the game. The Cavs seemed to be in disarray. It seemed like they didn't have a plan they believed in, whereas SA does. It's early, but I couldn't help feeling that it's already decided.

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Detroit did the same thing the Spurs did, constantly send double and triple teams to him. The difference was when he played Detroit, he went to the rim and his fadeaway threes actually went down.

His teammates played good enough for the Cavs to win. 4 of them were in double figures, and they combined for 62 points in total. James usually scores what, 25 for an average game? If he would have done that, the final score would have been 87-85 in favor of the Cavs.

I'm not saying LeBron is a bad player. He is very good, but he's too inconsistent for the MJ-like hype he gets. Let him prove himself before the hype.

LJ had a couple of those fadeaway 3 pointers, and that was impressive, but he shouldn't have even shot those, IMO. They were too chancey. I don't believe he's willing yet to be the take-over-the-game guy that MJ was. He did it in game 5 against Detroit, but he doesn't yet see himself in that role on a consistent basis. He has the talent, and he certainly has the body for it. He's way stronger than Michael was. We'll see what happens for the rest of this series, but he pretty much washed out in game one.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Spurs basketball

It's 80-72 Spurs late in the game. Ginobili catches the ball on the left side beyond the three-point line. He sees Duncan on the low post and wants to feed him the ball. However, Varejao is doing a good job fronting Duncan and thus preventing the pass.

Meanwhile Horry is hovering on the weak side. When Horry sees what's happening, he flashes to the foul line area and forms a Ginobili-Horry-Duncan triangle. Ginobili sees this, feeds the ball to Horry, and Horry bounces a pass to Duncan. Because Varejao is fronting Duncan, Duncan has a clear path to the basket, and Varejao's helpless. Duncan has an open path to the basket and an easy layup. It's not flashy, or even extraordinary, but it's beautiful. Good basketball players have such an incredibly intuitive understanding of space. The entire sequence described above happened in under five seconds. I can't even tie one of my shoes in that amount of time.

They definitely know what they're doing, altho that example is basic basketball when getting it in the post to a fronted player - go up top with it to get a better passing angle, and that's beyond basic for Duncan and Horry.

yeah, but you'd be surprised at how many players don't know the fundamentals.

 

[zerocool84]

Duncan=Finals MVP yet again

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Duncan=Finals MVP yet again

no doubt. he's been robbed of a reg season mvp the last few years.

 

[stupidkid]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihadno doubt. he's been robbed of a reg season mvp the last few years.

Well he did have those back to back MVPs and he's definitely past his prime.

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Duncan=Finals MVP yet again

no doubt. he's been robbed of a reg season mvp the last few years.

i wont say robbed. theres just been many other great players in the regular season. dirk, nash, wade, etc

 

[galperi1]

Tony Parker is making a GOOD case to not have Tim Duncan get his 4th finals MVP

 

[Engineer]

Spurs up by 17 with 10 minutes left to go in the 2nd quarter (35 to 18). Wow! :Q

 

[tfinch2]

Man the Cavs are pathetic.

When will Coach Brown realize that Larry Hughes can't guard Tony Parker.

The Cavs reaching the finals has to be some sort of fluke. The East can't be this bad...

 

[mooglemania85]

*yawn* game/series is oh-vah.

 

[Engineer]

Spurs by 22 (49 to 27).

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Spurs by 22 (49 to 27).

This is getting pathetic. It seems like they have given up.

 

[Miramonti]

Cavs have noone who's stepping up.

Gibson's hit some shots when he has a chance but spurs have taken him out of the game. Cavs have no savvy and no ability to make plays, get rebounds, or hit contested shots.

 

[galperi1]

this is why the Pistons match up better...

Pistons play better D and they have more than 1 main option on offense depending on how the games are going.

Too bad they were so arragont again this year. Maybe we would have a series in the Finals instead of complete domination by the Spurs.

Spurs in 4 or 5 (most likely 4)

 

[GrimmRimmer]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Cavs have noone who's stepping up.

Gibson's hit some shots when he has a chance but spurs have taken him out of the game. Cavs have no savvy and no ability to make plays, get rebounds, or hit contested shots.

This is why I'm amazed that they ever got this far. I guess they kinda got the luck of the draw with their #2 seed in the East...