Official 2008-2009 NHL thread.

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
More than likely they'll give it to Talbot (or whatever) for pushing Osgood (even though he embellished it) which set off Zetterberg than Malkin.

19:41 Evgeni Malkin: 2-Minute Bench Penalty for Instigating Henrik Zetterberg

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=290531005

Then I guess he will be out for Game 3...

 

[Squisher]

Gary Bettman: tell me more about this Deux ex machina.

 

[Train]

I'd be really surprised if they suspended him. The ducks flat out attacked people after thw final whistle and never got suspended.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Train
I'd be really surprised if they suspended him. The ducks flat out attacked people after thw final whistle and never got suspended.

but never did the ducks do what malkin did.

My bets are that Bettman doesn't suspend him. Red Wings fans will riot and Malkin will score the game-winner in Game 3...Bettman then looks even more retarded..though I'm not sure thats possible at this point.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: Train
I'd be really surprised if they suspended him. The ducks flat out attacked people after thw final whistle and never got suspended.

I agree about both them not suspending Malkin and about what the Ducks did, but I don't believe the Ducks got an "instigator." But, I might be wrong.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: Train
I'd be really surprised if they suspended him. The ducks flat out attacked people after thw final whistle and never got suspended.

I agree about both them not suspending Malkin and about what the Ducks did, but I don't believe the Ducks got an "instigator." But, I might be wrong.

I just checked the Ducks series and never did I see instigator in any of the penalties.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: Train
I'd be really surprised if they suspended him. The ducks flat out attacked people after thw final whistle and never got suspended.

I agree about both them not suspending Malkin and about what the Ducks did, but I don't believe the Ducks got an "instigator." But, I might be wrong.

I just checked the Ducks series and never did I see instigator in any of the penalties.

No penalties were called, which is why I posted a few pages back that the Ducks were getting away with murder at home.

 

[Squisher]

I was checking too, but there was a lot of stuff, wasn't there?


That series was like trial by fire.

 

[TraumaRN]

Well then, we'll see if Bettman has balls and keeps the automatic suspension.

If Malkin is out for Game 3, thats a HUGE blow to Pittsburgh.

 

[Quiksilver]

TSN is reporting the NHL won't be suspending Malkin...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=280536#

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
TSN is reporting the NHL won't be suspending Malkin...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=280536#

That was fast.

Figures, since he's a superstar.

 

[sao123]

well so far the only thing detroit is proving, is that the only way they can play hockey is to obstruction and interference every time the other team touches the puck...

shit, even the TV announcers said it.

so much for rule changes that make for a more wide open hockey.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: sao123
well so far the only thing detroit is proving, is that the only way they can play hockey is to obstruction and interference every time the other team touches the puck...

shit, even the TV announcers said it.

so much for rule changes that make for a more wide open hockey.

I'm pretty sure both teams got away with a ton of penalties in that game.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: sao123
well so far the only thing detroit is proving, is that the only way they can play hockey is to obstruction and interference every time the other team touches the puck...

shit, even the TV announcers said it.

so much for rule changes that make for a more wide open hockey.

I'm pretty sure both teams got away with a ton of penalties in that game.

This.

I'm quite happy with the way this series is being called so far (Pen's fans will disagree here due to non-calls that are costing them goals...) but the PM's per game has been relatively even so far and both teams are getting away with calls. This is the way playoff and season games should be left to play as instead of having a 3 to 4 power plays each team per period a game.

Edit:

Just a follow up on TSN's reporting
Here's from the horses mouth NHL.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424480

 

[KK]

the only real difference i can see between the two team is fluery vs osgood.

 

[Jeff7181]

But... Crosby was near by...

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: sao123
well so far the only thing detroit is proving, is that the only way they can play hockey is to obstruction and interference every time the other team touches the puck...

shit, even the TV announcers said it.

so much for rule changes that make for a more wide open hockey.

I don't know if you're aware, but you are allowed to touch the person that has the puck.

It's called...er...um checking. It's probable that Pens fans are unaware that anybody is allowed impede their superstars. Don't worry it's likely that there will be rule change next year by nhl that will force the other team to make a path of rose petals to the net so Crosby can find it. Although, since the the nhl is changing their rules on the fly, maybe they'll act sooner than I think.

btw-I kinda hope the Pens take a game, that way someone can take a one handed swing with their stick to Malkin or Crosby's neck in the closing minutes of that game. Or, maybe they can nonchalantly admit that they slashed at another player after the game was over in the post game news conference like Crosby did after game one and not have the league impose a fine or suspension. I'm sure if it had been Maltby that had done that to Crosby there would have been a slight vacuum formed around the city of Pittsburgh and the entire country of Canada as collectively they inhaled their breaths before they gasped, "Oh no, not the chosen one."

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: sao123
well so far the only thing detroit is proving, is that the only way they can play hockey is to obstruction and interference every time the other team touches the puck...

shit, even the TV announcers said it.

so much for rule changes that make for a more wide open hockey.

I don't know if you're aware, but you are allowed to touch the person that has the puck.

It's called...er...um checking. It's probable that Pens fans are unaware that anybody is allowed impede their superstars. Don't worry it's likely that there will be rule change next year by nhl that will force the other team to make a path of rose petals to the net so Crosby can find it. Although, since the the nhl is changing their rules on the fly, maybe they'll act sooner than I think.

btw-I kinda hope the Pens take a game, that way someone can take a one handed swing with their stick to Malkin or Crosby's neck in the closing minutes of that game. Or, maybe they can nonchalantly admit that they slashed at another player after the game was over in the post game news conference like Crosby did after game one and not have the league impose a fine or suspension. I'm sure if it had been Maltby that had done that to Crosby there would have been a slight vacuum formed around the city of Pittsburgh and the entire country of Canada as collectively they inhaled their breaths before they gasped, "Oh no, not the chosen one."

Yawn,

I'm cheering for the Penns, but I hope you have seen the instances of interference that are occurring. It has happened a few times. Sure I'm a Penns fan, but only a Detroit fan would say what you have said. Detroit interferes quite alot actually, but the disguise it quite well. It's not always obvious because it is more of a slight push than a hit. It's hard for a ref to call interference when the player is barely touched. Well, that is a strength of the veterans I suppose. They know how to push the rules without breaking them.

Regardless, I have my fears about the Penns winning the cup. I doubt they will. There is an overwhelming theme with Detroit. Every player is a smart positional player.

The other thing that amazes me is that if Osgood doesn't eat up the shot, his defenders almost always skate away with it. This is probably more of an issue with Pittsburgh not crashing the net though.

Fleury needs to stop making the occasional screw up. Goals this series:6. Goals that should not have been: 3

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I'm cheering for the Penns, but I hope you have seen the instances of interference that are occurring.

It is happening all over by both teams, although the Pens have gotten away with a couple over the two games that were pretty blatant and I thought they were going to be called. It is one thing to do it in with a lot of close action, but when one defenseman skates laterally and gives a soft check to allow your other defenseman to gather the puck and you're the only three people involved in the play, it's pretty hard not to make a call.

If you really want to know what I think. I think the Pens are much improved. I think their defensive reaction to the puck is giving the Wings fits. They are very closely matched and the series could be going the other way. I think that Crosby is a great player arguably the best player on the ice, and if the rest of the world would stop craning their necks to get a sniff of his ass crack, he'd be even better.

 

[murphy55d]

After game 1, with Malkin doing quite the interference/trip/hook/whatever job at the blueline to give himself a breakaway, with no call, you have no room to say anything about interference.

Bottom line is the Pens played 3 teams who aren't anywhere near the level of Detroit when it comes to defense. And I don't just mean the defensemen....nearly every forward on the Wings roster is just as responsible without the puck as they are with it. If you expected them to roll into Detroit and just go freely up and down the ice like they did against those other teams, then you must not have watched too many Red Wings games.

 

[NoCreativity]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
But... Crosby was near by...

Haha! That was classic. I even tried to watch CBC and they are just as bad with the Crosby, Crosby Vs Zetterberg crap.

Wings aren't the only team doing it. Last nights game featured Hossa trying to skate around Gil which would have lead to Hossa-Fleury showdown. Instead of checking Hossa or going for the puck, Gil basically bear hugged him. Didn't think that was legal.

Wings are getting away with a lot of shit. So is Pittsburgh. And the Refs have their whistles in their pockets. I don't know that I agree with that or not, but that's the reality so far.

 

[Train]

Jeeze Pens fans are wearing blinders. In case you guys missed it, your only goal last night was scored by a Red Wing. Your superstar offense was officially shut down in Detroit.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: sao123
well so far the only thing detroit is proving, is that the only way they can play hockey is to obstruction and interference every time the other team touches the puck...

shit, even the TV announcers said it.

so much for rule changes that make for a more wide open hockey.

I don't know if you're aware, but you are allowed to touch the person that has the puck.

It's called...er...um checking. It's probable that Pens fans are unaware that anybody is allowed impede their superstars. Don't worry it's likely that there will be rule change next year by nhl that will force the other team to make a path of rose petals to the net so Crosby can find it. Although, since the the nhl is changing their rules on the fly, maybe they'll act sooner than I think.

btw-I kinda hope the Pens take a game, that way someone can take a one handed swing with their stick to Malkin or Crosby's neck in the closing minutes of that game. Or, maybe they can nonchalantly admit that they slashed at another player after the game was over in the post game news conference like Crosby did after game one and not have the league impose a fine or suspension. I'm sure if it had been Maltby that had done that to Crosby there would have been a slight vacuum formed around the city of Pittsburgh and the entire country of Canada as collectively they inhaled their breaths before they gasped, "Oh no, not the chosen one."

I dont know if you know this, but your not allowed to touch a person who does not have the puck. Every time a penguin is skating trying to get to a loose puck, his progress is impeded. As I said even the announcers acknowledged that the red wing guy interfered on staal trying to enter the zone to get a loose puck.

Also... lets see. Zetterberg put his hand on the puck in game 1 and held it.
penalty.

Hossa slashed someones stick right before the goal was scored.
penalty.

Originally posted by: Train
Jeeze Pens fans are wearing blinders. In case you guys missed it, your only goal last night was scored by a Red Wing. Your superstar offense was officially shut down in Detroit.

what detroit plays is not hockey. in REAL hockey, detroit would spend 40+ minutes in the box every period.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: sao123
what detroit plays is not hockey. in REAL hockey, detroit would spend 40+ minutes in the box every period.

puhleeeese. If you want to jump on missed calls, there are just as many on the pens side. This is why I refer to the "blinders"

lol real hockey. get an effin clue.

 

[kstu]

I'm glad the weekend is over and Pens fans have come back to reality.

The Pens battled with two good, but not great teams, then cruised past a Canes team that rode a ridiculous hot streak through two rounds and finally started playing like the mediocre team they are. Now a superior Detroit team is putting the Pens back in their place and I couldn't enjoy it more.