**OFFICIAL** 2008 NBA Playoffs thread

[SludgeFactory]

Barry didn't lean, he ducked. If he would have leaned in and thrown something up, he would have gotten completely wiped out and forced them to make the call. He blew it.

But I find it hard to believe that if Bryant or Jordan had been on the back of the uniform instead of Barry, the whistle wouldn't have been blown. With the blatant favoritism for "superstars" and individual play that the NBA has cultivated and enforced and marketed in the last 15 years in particular, I find myself wondering why I continue to watch it, pretty much every year around this time when the refs pull something else out of their ass...

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Barry didn't lean, he ducked. If he would have leaned in and thrown something up, he would have gotten completely wiped out and forced them to make the call. He blew it.

But I find it hard to believe that if Bryant or Jordan had been on the back of the uniform instead of Barry, the whistle wouldn't have been blown. With the blatant favoritism for "superstars" and individual play that the NBA has cultivated and enforced and marketed in the last 15 years in particular, I find myself wondering why I continue to watch it, pretty much every year around this time when the refs pull something else out of their ass...

Yeah, but it goes both ways - doesn't excuse it but levels out the field.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

Parker or Ginobili would have done it right and jumped into Fisher as he was coming down. Maybe one of them could have gotten the ball if there had been 3.6 on the clock instead of 2.1 like I think there should have been. Did Popavich even try to argue for a clock correction there?

Lots of weird things happened there in the last minute (no foul on Odom obliterating Parker on the layup, Fisher's shot hitting the rim but no clock reset), the refs just sucked all around.

 

[Baked]

Oh man, my heart hurts from laughing at san antoniOWNED's #1 fanboy getting all pissy pissy about his team losing. Better luck next year, chump.

 

[EKKC]

There was contact, but Barry ducked at the shot instead of making contact, they're not going to call that.

Either way, LA should've won anyway. Fisher's shot hit the rim and it should've been a fresh clock for Kobe, that play should never have been possible.

Bad officiating, but not as much to change the outcome of the game.

 

[Ricochet]

Agreed, EKKC. Lakers controlled pretty much the whole game. Even if it went OT, the Lakers would have still come out on top of the tired out Spurs.

 

[tfinch2]

Oh well. That series is over. It's hard to beat a good team in the conference finals when you're old and you've already played the Suns and Hornets.

 

[miniMUNCH]

The main with the last play is that barry seemed more like he was trying draw a foul than put up decent shot from 27 feet... refs are not going to bail you out on that one unless the defender does something really blatant.

If Kobe or Jordan were taking that shot they would've actually shot a jumper and not worried about up-faking a guy 6 inches shorter than them.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
The main with the last play is that barry seemed more like he was trying draw a foul than put up decent shot from 27 feet... refs are not going to bail you out on that one unless the defender does something really blatant.

If Kobe or Jordan were taking that shot they would've actually shot a jumper and not worried about up-faking a guy 6 inches shorter than them.

THIS. He got the defender up in the air, but waited too long to try and draw the foul. If he didn't hesitate, there might have been a foul called. They way he did it was obvious he was just trying to draw a foul.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

 

[JJChicken]

Lakers 3-1! What a close game, lets hope the celtics beat the pistons now.

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

2006 east 1st round, game 6, Damon Jones against the Wizards...still hurts

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

The point is different players have the hot hands at different time. If the guy is continually giving you points keep giving him the ball until proven otherwise.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

The point is different players have the hot hands at different time. If the guy is continually giving you points keep giving him the ball until proven otherwise.

So, if it was the Lakers, you wouldn't give the final shot to Kobe if someone on the bench was having a better shooting night?

How about have Horry take the final shot since he's made a number of final playoff buzzer shots in his career?

And as proven by what happened, Barry didn't have the smarts enough to lean into Fisher to take the foul and lost the game.

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

The point is different players have the hot hands at different time. If the guy is continually giving you points keep giving him the ball until proven otherwise.

So, if it was the Lakers, you wouldn't give the final shot to Kobe if someone on the bench was having a better shooting night?

How about have Horry take the final shot since he's made a number of final playoff buzzer shots in his career?

And as proven by what happened, Barry didn't have the smarts enough to lean into Fisher to take the foul and lost the game.

You making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be. Barry was also open for the pass. He was at the right place at the right time. Given that there was only 2.1s left on the clock the Spurs didn't have a lot of time to deal with. Besides a lot of star players miss buzzer shots in the playoffs.

Barry did not lose the game for the Spurs. In fact he was the one that kept them in the game. A certain star player *cough* Ginobli *cough* did not put up his numbers.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

2006 east 1st round, game 6, Damon Jones against the Wizards...still hurts

First one that came to mind for me as well.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

the series is still not over. if there is one team in the league that can play with a one game at a time mentality, its the spurs.

 

[PlatinumGold]

for me, the tougher thing to imagine is how kobe could have taken 50+ shots in 2 games and only been fouled once? where is the star differential treatment there? i'd say more like home cooking. and the lakers still won 1 of the 2 games. i'd say the lakers overcame a lot of adversity to win this game.

 

[w3stfa11]

Let's hope McDyess has another awesome game, but that's unlikely. Tayshaun, Billups, Rasheed need to get their shit together or else this will be a blowout in Boston. If we can pull of a win here, we're off to the Finals.

Go Pistons!

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anybody but Barry should have been making the final shot.

I don't know if you have noticed but Barry was the only Spurs who had been consistently making shots from the back court in this game. Ginobli was completely out of the picture.

Name me a game in playoff history where a reserve player won the game at the buzzer?

May 13, 2004 - Lakers @ Spurs Game 5 WCSF.

Derek Fisher 0.4 shot over Manu Ginobili.

Fisher came off the bench (Gary Payton was the starter).

 

[fallenangel99]

Should have been Hornets-Lakers. Oh well

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: jjsole
THE game of the season tonight!

For the sake of humanity, the refs better let the players decide the outcome.

QFT. Im sure the Spurs will try their hardest to make the refs decide the game, however.

Just wanted to quote one of my previous statements during the NOH / SAS game 7.

It rings so true yet again with Game 4 and the brent barry attempt to flop.

 

[Reckoner]

That flagrant on PJ Brown is RIDICULOUS. FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Terrible officiating