***OFFICIAL*** 2009 Fantasy Football thread

[SunnyD]

Now it's my turn -

Visanthe Shiancoe or Todd Heap, since NoCreativity stole Heath Miller from me. (I knew I should have put him higher in the claim order)

 

[oddyager]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Now it's my turn -

Visanthe Shiancoe or Todd Heap, since NoCreativity stole Heath Miller from me. (I knew I should have put him higher in the claim order)

Head to head matchup here. I think just lookign at targets, we're more likely to see Flacco throw to Heap (his WR corps disappeared on him for some reason) than Favre to Visanthe. Favre has more guys to throw to.

 

[SunnyD]

Ronnie Brown is now safely riding the pine this week on my bench. Thank you Steven Jackson for the weeks of dependable, even if not very inspiring service you've provided me with. Tony Gonzalez, I will appreciate the back to back 11 point weeks 1 and 2.

Now my quandry is, do I start Baltimore or Cincy this week at D? Tough matchups either way you cut it.

 

[Crono]

For flex slot: Jamaal Charles, Jamal Lewis, or Chester Taylor? Thanks!

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Crono
For flex slot: Jamaal Charles, Jamal Lewis, or Chester Taylor? Thanks!

Oddly, I'm going to go with Lewis. Why? Because, he's the only thing that the Browns have that can be considered offense. Sure, he's playing the Steelers, but that just means he's going to put in even more effort into it. Besides, what else are the Browns going to do? Let Derek Anderson throw the ball?!?! :laugh:

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I need some advice. My friend is asking for Ray Rice & Terrell Owens and is going to give me DeSean Jackson & Cadillac Williams. Any feedback would be great.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I need some advice. My friend is asking for Ray Rice & Terrell Owens and is going to give me DeSean Jackson & Cadillac Williams. Any feedback would be great.

You can't beat Rice right now. He's a rockin' RB, and pretty reliable whether the Ravens are going to be able to run the ball or whether they have to pass it (I believe he's #1 in receptions on the team right now?). Offloading Owens is a good deal, but I have a hard time saying the trade is worth it. Caddy just doesn't have a team that can provide consistency at RB. Any WR in my book is worth less points than a starting RB like Rice, even one like Jackson.

How hard up are you for a starting WR is the question, and does your RB stable support the loss in production you'd take from losing Rice? If you need a good WR, and have RBs to spare (as in Caddy will be at best a flex or bye-week play), then it's a good trade. If you're talking about starting Caddy week in and week out, I think you're probably getting the raw end of the deal.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I need some advice. My friend is asking for Ray Rice & Terrell Owens and is going to give me DeSean Jackson & Cadillac Williams. Any feedback would be great.

You can't beat Rice right now. He's a rockin' RB, and pretty reliable whether the Ravens are going to be able to run the ball or whether they have to pass it (I believe he's #1 in receptions on the team right now?). Offloading Owens is a good deal, but I have a hard time saying the trade is worth it. Caddy just doesn't have a team that can provide consistency at RB. Any WR in my book is worth less points than a starting RB like Rice, even one like Jackson.

How hard up are you for a starting WR is the question, and does your RB stable support the loss in production you'd take from losing Rice? If you need a good WR, and have RBs to spare (as in Caddy will be at best a flex or bye-week play), then it's a good trade. If you're talking about starting Caddy week in and week out, I think you're probably getting the raw end of the deal.

Right now I have MJD, Ryan Grant, and Reggie Bush as my RBs. I am seriously lacking on WRs. I have Josh Morgan and TO. I'm probably going to try to trade Cadillac Williams as I really want Jackson more than Cadillac.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I need some advice. My friend is asking for Ray Rice & Terrell Owens and is going to give me DeSean Jackson & Cadillac Williams. Any feedback would be great.

You can't beat Rice right now. He's a rockin' RB, and pretty reliable whether the Ravens are going to be able to run the ball or whether they have to pass it (I believe he's #1 in receptions on the team right now?). Offloading Owens is a good deal, but I have a hard time saying the trade is worth it. Caddy just doesn't have a team that can provide consistency at RB. Any WR in my book is worth less points than a starting RB like Rice, even one like Jackson.

How hard up are you for a starting WR is the question, and does your RB stable support the loss in production you'd take from losing Rice? If you need a good WR, and have RBs to spare (as in Caddy will be at best a flex or bye-week play), then it's a good trade. If you're talking about starting Caddy week in and week out, I think you're probably getting the raw end of the deal.

Right now I have MJD, Ryan Grant, and Reggie Bush as my RBs. I am seriously lacking on WRs. I have Josh Morgan and TO. I'm probably going to try to trade Cadillac Williams as I really want Jackson more than Cadillac.

Any chance you can pick up Maclin, Austin, Collie or Nicks on waivers? I'd put more weight on Austin or Nicks first, Maclin second, and Collie third (only because Gonzalez should be coming back soon).

What about other pickups, like Burleson or Knox? Unless this is a REALLY deep league, one of those guys should be around. Though I dare say, sounds like you are hurting for WRs.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I am hurting for WRs. I have an opporunity to trade Giants D/ST (I have Eagles D/ST) for Wes Welker, Braylon Edwards, or Dallas Clark. I don't know if I should do that trade or for who.

 

[gorcorps]

Trade advice please

My buddy wants to trade Knowshon Moreno and Eddie Royal for my Wes Welker and Derek Ward. I really need consistent RBs, but am pretty set with WRs as I still have Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward doing well for me. I'm on the fence, but I do need a fairly consistent RB. All I have is Mike Turner, and he's only has last weeks game that was good.

 

[dougp]

SunnyD will kill me, but I dropped Roy Williams for Crabtree in #3 this week. Williams was simply killing me, and I'd rather play Manningham and Smith together and take 18 pts from one and 8 pts from another over the lousy points Williams has been putting up. Maybe he'll surprise me, but I doubt it.

I love my RB core though, Ronnie Brown, Matt Forte and Fred Jackson ... kinda wish I could find someone for Jackson, but he gets me at least 8pts which isn't bad.

Should I drop my Pitts defense and keep Green Bay or should I utilize them both and see how Pitts improves when Polamalu is back?

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Trade advice please

My buddy wants to trade Knowshon Moreno and Eddie Royal for my Wes Welker and Derek Ward. I really need consistent RBs, but am pretty set with WRs as I still have Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward doing well for me. I'm on the fence, but I do need a fairly consistent RB. All I have is Mike Turner, and he's only has last weeks game that was good.

Royal has had 1 good game in 5, and Ward hasn't done squat since week 1. I'd say they're both dead weight in that trade. So basically Would you trade Welker for Knowshon, straight up? I actually like the trade if you want another decent RB option, but keep in mind that Welker could explode in the second half of the season if Brady finds his Rhythm.

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I am hurting for WRs. I have an opporunity to trade Giants D/ST (I have Eagles D/ST) for Wes Welker, Braylon Edwards, or Dallas Clark. I don't know if I should do that trade or for who.

IMO if you can trade a D/ST for a starting player like welker or edwards that's a great deal. But I've never been real high on defenses, since they're so inconsistent. I prefer trying my luck at the WW each week depending on matchup.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: apac

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Trade advice please

My buddy wants to trade Knowshon Moreno and Eddie Royal for my Wes Welker and Derek Ward. I really need consistent RBs, but am pretty set with WRs as I still have Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward doing well for me. I'm on the fence, but I do need a fairly consistent RB. All I have is Mike Turner, and he's only has last weeks game that was good.

Royal has had 1 good game in 5, and Ward hasn't done squat since week 1. I'd say they're both dead weight in that trade. So basically Would you trade Welker for Knowshon, straight up? I actually like the trade if you want another decent RB option, but keep in mind that Welker could explode in the second half of the season if Brady finds his Rhythm.

As it stands now, I would probably trade Welker for Knowshon straight up. BUT I also don't know if Knowshon's numbers will slip a ton since Buckhalter is going to be back soon (possibly this week). Wayne and Ward are doing enough for me WR wise that I think a decent RB would be worth one of my WRs.

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: apac

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Trade advice please

My buddy wants to trade Knowshon Moreno and Eddie Royal for my Wes Welker and Derek Ward. I really need consistent RBs, but am pretty set with WRs as I still have Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward doing well for me. I'm on the fence, but I do need a fairly consistent RB. All I have is Mike Turner, and he's only has last weeks game that was good.

Royal has had 1 good game in 5, and Ward hasn't done squat since week 1. I'd say they're both dead weight in that trade. So basically Would you trade Welker for Knowshon, straight up? I actually like the trade if you want another decent RB option, but keep in mind that Welker could explode in the second half of the season if Brady finds his Rhythm.

As it stands now, I would probably trade Welker for Knowshon straight up. BUT I also don't know if Knowshon's numbers will slip a ton since Buckhalter is going to be back soon (possibly this week). Wayne and Ward are doing enough for me WR wise that I think a decent RB would be worth one of my WRs.

I would say that given Welker's injuries and Brady's inconsistencies Moreno is about the quality of RB to expect, in terms of equal value. I like Moreno actually and think he will continue to produce, even with Buckhalter.

 

[DukeFan21]

Is it safe to drop Glen Coffee? Gore's likely back after the bye week, and I don't see why I should keep Coffee on my roster just in case Gore would go down again. I don't own Gore, so I can't use him as a handcuff. Cadillac Williams is available on the waiver wire too.

Also, someone is shopping LT and are asking for a WR3 in return. I'm not sure he'd accept, but would T.O., Steve Breaston, or Miles Austin be worth the trade? (Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Anthony Gonzalez are my other WRs) My RBs are Michael Turner, Steve Slaton, Coffee, and Beanie Wells.

 

[BRObedoza]

Originally posted by: DukeFan21
Is it safe to drop Glen Coffee? Gore's likely back after the bye week, and I don't see why I should keep Coffee on my roster just in case Gore would go down again. I don't own Gore, so I can't use him as a handcuff. Cadillac Williams is available on the waiver wire too.

Also, someone is shopping LT and are asking for a WR3 in return. I'm not sure he'd accept, but would T.O., Steve Breaston, or Miles Austin be worth the trade? (Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Anthony Gonzalez are my other WRs) My RBs are Michael Turner, Steve Slaton, Coffee, and Beanie Wells.

maybe try to trade Coffee + another player to the Gore owner for an upgrade in another position

Offer up Breaston and see if he bites. Then TO or Austin if he rejects. LT for a WR3 is damn good value.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Trade advice please

My buddy wants to trade Knowshon Moreno and Eddie Royal for my Wes Welker and Derek Ward. I really need consistent RBs, but am pretty set with WRs as I still have Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward doing well for me. I'm on the fence, but I do need a fairly consistent RB. All I have is Mike Turner, and he's only has last weeks game that was good.

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Trade advice please

My buddy wants to trade Knowshon Moreno and Eddie Royal for my Wes Welker and Derek Ward. I really need consistent RBs, but am pretty set with WRs as I still have Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward doing well for me. I'm on the fence, but I do need a fairly consistent RB. All I have is Mike Turner, and he's only has last weeks game that was good.

I say jump on it... and do it now. Moreno is starting material for the rest of the year, even if Buckhalter pulls carries for the rest of the year. You have to... you ... anyway.

Originally posted by: DukeFan21
Is it safe to drop Glen Coffee? Gore's likely back after the bye week, and I don't see why I should keep Coffee on my roster just in case Gore would go down again. I don't own Gore, so I can't use him as a handcuff. Cadillac Williams is available on the waiver wire too.

Also, someone is shopping LT and are asking for a WR3 in return. I'm not sure he'd accept, but would T.O., Steve Breaston, or Miles Austin be worth the trade? (Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Anthony Gonzalez are my other WRs) My RBs are Michael Turner, Steve Slaton, Coffee, and Beanie Wells.

Coffee is likely to be riding pine in week 7, but there's an outside chance Gore's injury might take him out an extra week. Injury reports had Gore in individual drills all this week, and supposed to be starting in team drills next week. Watch the injury report and make your move next week. Caddy isn't reliable, but he's worth the backup spot.

If it's any consolation, I dropped Coffee this week. But then again, keep in mind I have an 0-5 record, a 1-4 record, and a pair of 3-2 records across all my leagues. My only consolation is that even in the 0-5 league, I'm nowhere near the lowest point scorer. Figure that out.

LT isn't likely worth the risk, but if you want to give a shot, I'd be willing to part with T.O. Buffalo has no offense, and that's not going to change any time soon. I doubt we'll be seeing more than one or two games of fantasy relevance for T.O. this year.

 

[apac]

Have two possible trades in the works with someone who needs a RB week 7. What do you think of them? League is non-ppr.

I give DeAngelo Williams and Antonio Gates, receive Maurice Jones-Drew
I give DeAngelo Williams, Heath Miller and TJ Housh, receive Maurice Jones-Drew and Dwayne Bowe

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: apac
Have two possible trades in the works with someone who needs a RB week 7. What do you think of them? League is non-ppr.

I give DeAngelo Williams and Antonio Gates, receive Maurice Jones-Drew
I give DeAngelo Williams, Heath Miller and TJ Housh, receive Maurice Jones-Drew and Dwayne Bowe

I would do the 2nd trade

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: apac
Have two possible trades in the works with someone who needs a RB week 7. What do you think of them? League is non-ppr.

I give DeAngelo Williams and Antonio Gates, receive Maurice Jones-Drew
I give DeAngelo Williams, Heath Miller and TJ Housh, receive Maurice Jones-Drew and Dwayne Bowe

I would do the 2nd trade

As which party? These are only on the table, I think he's pondering them over.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: apac

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: apac
Have two possible trades in the works with someone who needs a RB week 7. What do you think of them? League is non-ppr.

I give DeAngelo Williams and Antonio Gates, receive Maurice Jones-Drew
I give DeAngelo Williams, Heath Miller and TJ Housh, receive Maurice Jones-Drew and Dwayne Bowe

I would do the 2nd trade

As which party? These are only on the table, I think he's pondering them over.

I would give up Deangelo Williams, Heath Miller, and Housh for Jones-Drew and Bowe.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: apac
Have two possible trades in the works with someone who needs a RB week 7. What do you think of them? League is non-ppr.

I give DeAngelo Williams and Antonio Gates, receive Maurice Jones-Drew
I give DeAngelo Williams, Heath Miller and TJ Housh, receive Maurice Jones-Drew and Dwayne Bowe

I think either trade you're losing more than you gain. Are you trying to be charitable?

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: apac
Have two possible trades in the works with someone who needs a RB week 7. What do you think of them? League is non-ppr.

I give DeAngelo Williams and Antonio Gates, receive Maurice Jones-Drew
I give DeAngelo Williams, Heath Miller and TJ Housh, receive Maurice Jones-Drew and Dwayne Bowe

I think either trade you're losing more than you gain. Are you trying to be charitable?

No, I just feel like MJD is a better long term RB. No charity here, this is a $$$ league. My team is 4-1, so I'm thinking about trades that benefit me down the stretch.