Official 2010-2011 NBA Playoffs Thread

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HendrixFan

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The Bulls will get better, though, and the Heat are might be at their prime right now.

DRose has to garner some playoff lesons. Right now he's constantly going back to what has worked for him his entire life, and that's what the Heat are taking away. He needs to learn to control the game better offensively.

Unfortunately it's pretty clear by this series that Deng is not a #2 option for a championship contender.

Disagree with the first point, agree with the next two.

The Heat have been missing a huge chunk of their bench all season long with Haslem and Miller's injuries. Both really change the way the team looks when they are on the floor. The Heat took a few months to learn to play together (mostly figuring out how to use Wade) and Bosh took even longer to find his niche. As well as they are playing now, they can be better once Miller is fully healthy and once Bosh and Wade compliment each other better. Their defense is already at championship caliber level.

Rose has certainly regressed, though it might be from a combination of factors. His shooting percentages were on the decline as the season progressed. Pre All Star break he was shooting 45%, 36% on threes, 24.5 ppg, 8.2 assists and 4.4 boards. Post All Star break he shot 43%, 30% on threes (while taking more of them), 25.3ppg, 6.7 assists and 3.4 boards. In the postseason it is an even bigger dropoff despite the fact that Indiana and Atlanta aren't tough defensive teams. He is shooting 41%, 26% on threes (and taking even more of them), 28.2ppg, 8.0 assists and 4.3 boards.

I think Tibs put more pressure on him to carry the team later in the season as home court became a possibility to lock down. He looked to distribute the ball less, shot more threes and became a less efficient player. His legs are probably tired with Tibs pushing and pushing all regular season while other teams coasted in parts. If you listen to Tibs' comments on the team before game 3, it was pretty much "we need to put more effort in and work harder" which his team has echoed. Guess what? They are giving 100%, they just aren't being put in a position to win by their coach. Why can't they run real plays like they did earlier in the season? When you go back and watch the Bulls win over the Lakers in December they look like a completely different team on offense.

You are right about Deng not being a legit #2 option for a contender, but he should be #3 on the team and #4 ideally. Boozer should be the second option but he has been extremely shaky for them. Boozer can score, but he isn't a dangerous scorer. The other three teams left in the playoffs have a second guy who is a dangerous scorer (Jason Terry, Dwyane Wade and Russell Westbrook).

It is time for Tibs to throw out his junior high offensive playbook and get guys moving around and not just stand on the wings waiting for the ball to rotate over to them. This isn't the regular season and you can't pile up cheap wins against the Kings or Nets that way. This is deep into the playoffs and the teams left can play some serious defense. The Bulls need a serious counter to that and they just don't have one.
 

al981

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now, why can't mental midget bosh do this every game? he becomes a monster whenever anyone talks shit to him, ie gibson tonight. channel that inner waterboy!
 

Via

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I should have been more clear about my "Heat are in their prime" comment.

I meant physically and athletically for the big 3, not as a team. Aren't they all in their late 20's?
 

al981

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I should have been more clear about my "Heat are in their prime" comment.

I meant physically and athletically for the big 3, not as a team. Aren't they all in their late 20's?

at this rate with no help, rose is going to wash out in his late 20's.
 

zerocool84

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now, why can't mental midget bosh do this every game? he becomes a monster whenever anyone talks shit to him, ie gibson tonight. channel that inner waterboy!

To me he's like Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol. Bosh and those other guys definitely have great talent and we've seen glimpses of it but they never do it consistently enough to be considered great which is sad to see all that talent squandered.
 

HendrixFan

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now, why can't mental midget bosh do this every game? he becomes a monster whenever anyone talks shit to him, ie gibson tonight. channel that inner waterboy!

He knows he is third best on the team and doesn't play like that unless called upon. They are still figuring out how to use all three players effectively.

Bosh is a 25-12 guy when he was the primary option.
 

jcuadrado

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when your #3 options can drop 30 on you any given night any oppossing team is going to have problems.

Also it is now obvious how important Udonis Haslem is to this Heat team. He creates fits as he could hit that 15 footer plus do all the dirty work down low banging the boards.

The Bulls have a great D and one great player...I don't see that being enough to win 7 games against Wade, James and Bosh and company. One of those guys can have a bad night while the other two pick up the slack. And if they are all on forget about it.

Doesn't hurt to have the #2 D in the league either. Heat in 6 gentlemen.
 

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Also it is now obvious how important Udonis Haslem is to this Heat team. He creates fits as he could hit that 15 footer plus do all the dirty work down low banging the boards.

Haslem has been huge. The interior defense, rebounding and attitude has changed since he started getting bigger minutes starting in game 2.
 

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"Dirk is an awfully tough player to defend"

Thank you for those deep, insightful words of infinite wisdom Marc Jackson.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Mavs have got to forget about the refs and just play. You have to expect the homer calls and just play through it. Chandler gets a dumb T by complaining about a no call.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Damn! just handed em 2 at the end of the 3rd, bad foul with 2.5 left.

But you've got to love the Mavs chances, the Thunder have dominated the boards and points in the paint and out shot the mavs 57% to 47% and still only lead by 4
 

HendrixFan

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The Thunder have, what, like 18 turnovers already? That is what is keeping the Mavs nipping at their heels. Perfect example of youth versus experience.

That was a nice seal off down in the paint by Collison to give Harden space on the penetration.
 

Awkward

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I wish the eastern conference games were as well officiated as the western ones. Of course, Stern is willing the Heat to win due to ratings.
 

Awkward

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No, but all the bullshit ticky tack fouls take away the momentum from the game. Of course the Bulls offense has been absolutely terrible the last 2 games, but it's pretty much been a rollercoaster the entire playoffs.
 

HendrixFan

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No, but all the bullshit ticky tack fouls take away the momentum from the game. Of course the Bulls offense has been absolutely terrible the last 2 games, but it's pretty much been a rollercoaster the entire playoffs.

There was an eight foul differential over those two games combined, and a few of those were the Bulls intentionally fouling late to try and extend the game. Considering that the Bulls have only one player attacking the basket versus two for the Heat, it seems that the officiating is pretty even.

Most of the 50/50 calls go to the home team in basketball.
 

HendrixFan

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Wow, they just said the rebounding is 48-22 in favor of the Thunder, with 20 offensive boards.

Teams don't lose putting up those numbers.
 
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