***Official*** 2010 Stock Market Thread

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Miramonti

Lifer
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For me, ONT is GOOG Call option that doesn't expire until the deal is secured Since Google reports the financial on Jan 21, I will hold onto ONT until then at least. I mean, if Google hits $ 650, then ONT should be at $ .80. Of course, if Google hits $ 550, then ONT should be $ .70

My cost for ONT is 0.57, so, it would take GOOG to be $ 420 for me to loss. Worth a bet!

Sounds good to me, I can see that angle of it.

Btw, I've corrected my math...600 x .001 is .6, lol.
 

ahurtt

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Feb 1, 2001
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Anybody got any ideas on good ETF's or other ways to short commercial real-estate? If the prognosticators of gloom and doom are correct supposedly the "other shoe" of commercial real estate foreclosures should be dropping soon.
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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anybody got any ideas on good etf's or other ways to short commercial real-estate? If the prognosticators of gloom and doom are correct supposedly the "other shoe" of commercial real estate foreclosures should be dropping soon.

drn/drv?
 

KDKPSJ

Diamond Member
Dec 13, 2002
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According to IV Rambus board, someone bought 3427 Jan $ 30 CALL at ASK few min ago. Someone really got a gut (and money)!
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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anybody got any ideas on good etf's or other ways to short commercial real-estate? If the prognosticators of gloom and doom are correct supposedly the "other shoe" of commercial real estate foreclosures should be dropping soon.

srs
 

richardycc

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Apr 29, 2001
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I used to own CYCC ~2yrs ago, I think I might've mentioned it in the 2008 stock market thread...anyway, I think we missed the gain now, with it's low float, it's a buy for daytrading, but it's almost $2/share, so you might as well buy GNVC or check out NVLT.OB, they just announced their 725th event in their phase 3 lung cancer trial today.
 
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richardycc

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what's going on with GGWPQ? it's up 50cents since 1pm, and we have the bad news like 'US shopping center vacancies hit records', I thought we'd end in red today...
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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I used to own CYCC ~2yrs ago, I think I might've mentioned it in the 2008 stock market thread...anyway, I think we missed the gain now, with it's low float, it's a buy for daytrading, but it's almost $2/share, so you might as well buy GNVC or check out NVLT.OB, they just announced their 725th event in their phase 3 lung cancer trial today.

Any opinion on SIRI, ETFC, or VG?
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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All crap. You talking about trading or LT investment?

Long term investment, but perhaps trading as well...

I was up in September, a lot... and then I started buying FAZ calls thinking things were going to tank. They didn't, so I lost a lot of my gains. Trying to not be stupid this time. Following this thread more closely
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Long term investment, but perhaps trading as well...

I was up in September, a lot... and then I started buying FAZ calls thinking things were going to tank. They didn't, so I lost a lot of my gains. Trying to not be stupid this time. Following this thread more closely

Don't time short like that. Trust me on this.

SIRI and VG are fail from an investment/business standpoint. And who knows what is on ETFC's balance shit.
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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Don't time short like that. Trust me on this.

SIRI and VG are fail from an investment/business standpoint. And who knows what is on ETFC's balance shit.

OK, I'll trust you. Are you saying never to buy short ETF calls like that? Or are you saying wait until its obvious things are moving down?

Also, SIRI is fail? They climbed from 5 cents/share to 70 cents/share. Still think it will ultimately fail?
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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OK, I'll trust you. Are you saying never to buy short ETF calls like that? Or are you saying wait until its obvious things are moving down?

Also, SIRI is fail? They climbed from 5 cents/share to 70 cents/share. Still think it will ultimately fail?

SIRI is fail from a business model standpoint. Stock can obviously can go up before they go broke.

Short timing - as we saw before downside movements occur suddenly, and you won't really even know until it's halfway through. Buying deep OTM puts on the indexes and/or buying short ETF/calls are fool's gold IMO. Learned my lesson the hard way haha.
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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SIRI is fail from a business model standpoint. Stock can obviously can go up before they go broke.

Short timing - as we saw before downside movements occur suddenly, and you won't really even know until it's halfway through. Buying deep OTM puts on the indexes and/or buying short ETF/calls are fool's gold IMO. Learned my lesson the hard way haha.

So are you saying buying deep out of the money puts is really a bad idea? All the time?

What are you doing now? Just trading stocks? Any options at all?
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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So are you saying buying deep out of the money puts is really a bad idea? All the time?

What are you doing now? Just trading stocks? Any options at all?

Eh, I guess I'm just saying it's gambling. However, I've noticed put premiums have dropped recently. More appealing to gamble now.

I'm playing rambus right now, with a small position in S May 2010 calls. Had GNVC on my radar but obviously late to the boat. But I'm mostly cash still (saving for house+I don't believe rally).
 
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