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HopJokey

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Someone tell me why I'm dumb...?

It sounds to me like this should be a buying opportunity for DNDN. The CMS review does not remove coverage of provenge by medicare; it doesn't change way coverage decisions would be made for provenge in any way. I guess now there is increased risk that provenge will be shut down in the future, but it is FDA-approved after all...

So unless there's some indirect effect where the review causes patients/doctors to steer clear of provenge, isn't DNDN still going to make money (in the near term)? It seems like the kind of review being conducted by the CMS will take quite some amount of time, since they're effectively asking for "user feedback" on whether you're having strokes.

EDIT: on that note, does this action by the CMS signal a general policy shift on new, novel drugs? I mean they claim there's the potential for increased incidence of stroke, but given how little time has passed since fda-approval, presumably they're operating on the same info. So shouldn't the FDA have caught on to this if there's a real problem? e.g., should I be afraid that (assuming benelysta gets FDA approval), CMS will open some sort of investigation with HGSI too?

EDIT2: Looks like analysts agree? (for what that's worth, lol) http://notablecalls.blogspot.com/2010/07/dendreon-nasdaqdndn-colour-on-cms-news.html

The after market low of $24.74 for DNDN yesterday was mighty tempting at the time.

I agree the CMS thing is overblown, they have a temporary J-code to sell before then. However, with the overall market weakness, Provenge production supply constrain this year, heavy insider selling, any blip of bad news will allow the bears to seize control of the stock for a short while.
 

manlymatt83

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For what it's worth, I've been using this site: http://coveredcalls.com/

Also, I have a question. How do companies benefit from stock buys after an IPO? If I own a company, and I create 100 shares for $10/share, and investors buy them from me, my company makes a one time $1000. But after that, investors are buying/selling to each other.... so how does my company make money then other than issuing new shares? I've always wondered this. And if a company makes a ton more money, what's in it for them to keep the IPO going? Why not just buy back all shares and go private again?
 

KDKPSJ

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Bull is in full force today with STT releases its prelim earning two weeks before the planned date.. It certainly reminds me April 09 when WFC released its prelim earning two weeks before the planned date, which was a start of the turnaround.

I sure don't mind that
 

HopJokey

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May 6, 2005
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Bull is in full force today with STT releases its prelim earning two weeks before the planned date.. It certainly reminds me April 09 when WFC released its prelim earning two weeks before the planned date, which was a start of the turnaround.

I sure don't mind that

Nor would I. ()
 
Sep 29, 2004
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Anyone buy into USG lately? Closed today at $12.40.

My cost basis is $17. I would have considered doubling at $10. Didn't happen. Oh well. I was happy owning X shares a week ago. There is no reason to not be happpy still owning X shares. I do wish that I waited longer. $15 maybe. But that is life.
 

thepd7

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SandEagle

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i mentioned YRCW earlier. they were at .10 on Friday and are at .23 AH right now. turnaround possible?
 
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Now you can buy BP.

Hhahahaha,

Who can tell me what BP will look like 3-5 years from now with certainty? They will be the witch that gets burned at the stake during the US gov't witch hunt. Sorry, but they are the only name that people know and it is politics.

One word: SandRidge ... read about them
 

thepd7

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Jan 2, 2005
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Hhahahaha,

Who can tell me what BP will look like 3-5 years from now with certainty? They will be the witch that gets burned at the stake during the US gov't witch hunt. Sorry, but they are the only name that people know and it is politics.

One word: SandRidge ... read about them

This. If I had extra cash I would have bought at $30 but who knows what's going to happen now.
 

eLiu

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Now you can buy BP.

BP was so tempting in the mid 20s, but I was too scared. In retrospect it's been hard to match that stock's performance over the past like 2 weeks, but still scary!

A good chunk of my [small amt of] available cash went to DNDN in the mid 20s. I figured & still think the medicare scare is nothing to worry about. Also reaaaaallly wanted to put more into HGSI when it hit 20.xx but it felt wrong increasing the %-age of my money in that stock; already too high as it is.

Y'all might want to take a look at DHT.
 

thepd7

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Jan 2, 2005
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What will happen now? The stock will go back over $40, thats what will happen now.

You are almost definitely correct, however that's what, 10-15% gain? If you think a 10-15% gain over the next 6 months or year is good then you haven't been keeping an eye on the market. I am expecting 20-25% and I'm buying companies which aren't going to lose billions in litigation over the next 2 years.
 

Kntx

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You are almost definitely correct, however that's what, 10-15% gain? If you think a 10-15% gain over the next 6 months or year is good then you haven't been keeping an eye on the market. I am expecting 20-25% and I'm buying companies which aren't going to lose billions in litigation over the next 2 years.

10-15% gain over 6 months is good. You never have to work again with returns like that; if you can repeat it of course.
 

thepd7

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2005
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10-15% gain over 6 months is good. You never have to work again with returns like that; if you can repeat it of course.

it's not good if you can get 20-25% with a more stable company.

Also, this is not going to be repeatable, it's just the current market. I'm a moron but started investing Jan 2009 and I'm kicking ass (30%+).

There are some great buys out there, BP is too risky for me.
 

eLiu

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Anyone here heard of Northwest Biotherapeutics? (People who dislike speculating on drug companies should stop reading...)
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NWBO.OB

They're a very small cap (50M) company that develops non-chemo cancer drugs. They look pretty promising... see
http://www.smallcapnetwork.com/Is-N...ount-A-Comeback/s/article/view/p/mid/5/id/40/
and
http://www.nwbio.com/clinical_dcvax_pipeline.php

Their preliminary results look promising, but the studies (thus far) have all been quite small... so statistically we don't have much. But supposing that DCVAX-Prostate is as promising as the preliminary studies claim, it would be a big improvement over Provenge.

NW also seem to be hauling ass through small phase I/II trials and moving ahead w/big phase III trials compared to other companies I've seen. Maybe the preliminaries were just too promising?
 
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