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SSSnail

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I get dividends from HT, but lately they've been pretty low, and I've sold some stock so the amount isn't all that much.

I believe C had dividends for common stock, but they've since stopped the dividends, likely until the stock price rises up.

But I do enjoy the hilarity of HT being cheaper than C yet maintaining quarterly dividends.
You don't have to hold it for long at all. Essentially, they say shareholders of record on a certain date will get the dividend, which usually comes about 2 weeks or so after that date. I don't know if you need to hold the stock in the mean time, but the press release always comes out prior to the "of record" date, so you can see the press release, buy a bunch of shares the day before the specified date, and then get the dividend.
Interesting, this maybe a new foot in my strategy as I typically don't hold anything long enough to see dividends. Unless I'm bag holding . A while back when I was trading C heavily, I noticed they only pay dividends on preferred.
 

Lamont Burns

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NLY has been my mreit dividend for 3 quarters now. Paid 75 cents last time. Stock yield is above 17%, own 530 shares now. Can't imagine any rate changes coming soon, expect the stock to rise next month substantially.
 

overst33r

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8 pages and I haven't seen much talk of Ford stock despite an amazing increase over the past year. Why is this?

Saw a few people over in the 2009 thread made out nicely...
 

KDKPSJ

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8 pages and I haven't seen much talk of Ford stock despite an amazing increase over the past year. Why is this?

Saw a few people over in the 2009 thread made out nicely...

Ford had not much reason to go down. Only reason it went down was it being Big 3 and the other two Big 3 bankrupt. Ford was fairly stable, however, the stock got hammered just because it being Big 3.

Now, things have changes. Ford rolls out fine products and the sales # support it, while GM and Chrysler still struggle. People started to think Ford seperately from other two Big 3, which makes F to skyrocket.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
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8 pages and I haven't seen much talk of Ford stock despite an amazing increase over the past year. Why is this?

Saw a few people over in the 2009 thread made out nicely...

I recommended F last year when it was in the sub $3, but F is due for a pullback as it's going up too fast with no good supports behind it. Sales are sluggish, economy still in a rut, the push last two quarters was because Cash for Clunkers. I honestly don't see any reasons why F should go higher than $10 pps.
 

Kntx

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I recommended F last year when it was in the sub $3, but F is due for a pullback as it's going up too fast with no good supports behind it. Sales are sluggish, economy still in a rut, the push last few quarters was because Cash for Clunkers. I honestly don't see any reasons why F should go higher than $10 pps.

I think I might buy a ford this year. Be sure to factor this additional information into your calculatron matrix.
 
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8 pages and I haven't seen much talk of Ford stock despite an amazing increase over the past year. Why is this?

Saw a few people over in the 2009 thread made out nicely...

To many auto makers, to many models = pressure on proifit margins

Anyone trying to pick the winners is not going to do well.
 

SSSnail

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I think I might buy a ford this year. Be sure to factor this additional information into your calculatron matrix.
That's fine, but don't count out GM as they're coming around, and pretty soon you'll have the big 2 competing again. And YOU buying a ford, or 10 fords aren't going to change anything I said.
 

Kntx

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That's fine, but don't count out GM as they're coming around, and pretty soon you'll have the big 2 competing again. And YOU buying a ford, or 10 fords aren't going to change anything I said.

Comments about myself buying a ford were tongue in cheek. Anywho, check this out. Ford has some nice stuff coming down the pipe. As mentioned in these article, no other companies have anything that competes with the in car technology (Sync) that Ford has out today. Nevermind this new stuff they have planned. I think this stuff really speaks to the generation that is just on the cusp of having the money to buy new cars.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/07/myford-touch-proves-that-the-shape-of-things-to-come-is-awesome/
 

SSSnail

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That's fine and dandy, but what percentage of the population is ready to go out and buy new cars this year? Everybody has new stuffs planned, it's called competition. Albeit Ford is doing some amazing things, so are other manufacturers. What's the Taurus-SHO sales numbers? It is an amazing car, right?
 

yahooguy77

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Guys, anyone following steel stocks? US Steel (X) has been up 45% for the past month and was recently upgraded too. Has been a fun ride.
 

coloumb

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8 pages and I haven't seen much talk of Ford stock despite an amazing increase over the past year. Why is this?

Saw a few people over in the 2009 thread made out nicely...

If you look back during that time frame of other company stock prices - and compare the same companies to current prices - you'd have a nice little Xmas bonus.

I'm beginning to hate the word "IF" when looking at the stock market.
 

Cal166

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I only bought 1000 shares of GNVC. Why is it having such a crazy run this week?

1. Roth Capital initiated a buy rating with a target of $4.
2. They are presenting next Tuesday at the Biotech Showcase 2010. Might be some good news?
3. Stock regains compliance with Nasdaq.
4. The 184th event was suppose to be out in the Q409 but nothing yet.
 

manlymatt83

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Interesting day for RMBS. Full of a bunch of drama. What will next week entail?

JS80: did you dump any of your calls?
 

richardycc

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1. Roth Capital initiated a buy rating with a target of $4.
2. They are presenting next Tuesday at the Biotech Showcase 2010. Might be some good news?
3. Stock regains compliance with Nasdaq.
4. The 184th event was suppose to be out in the Q409 but nothing yet.

BAM filed a 13G Friday stating that they own 5,584,836 shares of GNVC. If you did your DD, you'd know that BAM has lots of warrants to buy GNVC at ~80cents/share. It's hard to tell from the filing if BAM got these 5,584,836 shares from open market or they exercised their warrants. I hope they will keep these shares for awhile and not dump them(if they haven't already) all at once.
 

Dubb

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BAM filed a 13G Friday stating that they own 5,584,836 shares of GNVC. If you did your DD, you'd know that BAM has lots of warrants to buy GNVC at ~80cents/share. It's hard to tell from the filing if BAM got these 5,584,836 shares from open market or they exercised their warrants. I hope they will keep these shares for awhile and not dump them(if they haven't already) all at once.


As of the date hereof, the SPV held (a) 9,615,385 warrants to purchase shares of Common Stock for $0.858 per share, which are currently exerciseable and (b) 4,000,000 warrants to purchase shares of Common Stock for $0.828 per share, which warrants are exerciseable beginning on February 28, 2010. All the above warrants contain a contractual provision that disallows their exercise to the extent that the SPV and its affiliates would, as a result of such exercise, beneficially own more than 4.99% of the Common Stock of the Issuer. Acordingly, the SPV has beneficial ownership of 5,584,836 shares of Common Stock underlying the warrants, which is equal to 4.99% of the outstanding Common Stock of the Issuer. Beneficial ownership of the above-referenced Common Stock was transferred to the SPV by the Partnership on December 31, 2009, and accordingly, the Partnership and the General Partner no longer have beneficial ownership of the Common Stock.

The percentages herein are calculated based upon the 106,335,723 shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding as of October 31, 2009, as reported on the Issuer's Form 10-Q filed with the SEC on November 6, 2009, plus the shares underlying the 5,584,836 warrants that are currently exerciseable pursuant to the 4.99% beneficial ownership limitation.

 

state 08

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On Friday,

Bought about $700 worth of GME (Gamestop) @ $20.29. It was near it's 52 week low.
 

ahurtt

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So what other company pays dividend on commons? What are the minimum hold time? I've always thought that only preferred shares get dividend...

If you're after dividends, public utility companies are notoriously big dividend payers. Check out T's rival, VZ. Also pays a comparable 6% dividend at current market prices. But before you get too excited about dividends, keep in mind that in order to make that full 6% return on your investment you must hold the stock for an entire year because remember that dividends are typically only paid in quarterly installments. For example, Verizon (VZ) pays $1.90 per share ANNUAL dividend but it pays that in 4 quarterly installments of $.475. So if you only buy and settle right before the ex-dividend date just so you can get in on a dividend payout and then sell, you really only make about 1.5% (assuming you are then able to sell the shares for at least the same price you bought them for). So you can see that in order to make any appreciable amount of money this way you'd have to plunk down quite a large sum of cash.

Additionally with dividends there is also always the risk that the company has a bad year or quarter and is forced to cut (or even drop) the dividend as so many banks have done because of the financial crisis. Not likely to happen with VZ or T but something to consider. Try to make sure your dividend is safe by looking at things like the payout ratio. You can see that T and VZ have payout ratios of 81% and 94% respectively. (payout ratio = dividend per share / earnings per share). High payout ratio means the company has less room to increase dividends in the future and can also put the current dividend payout in jeopardy if it's too high because dividends are what's left over to pay out to investors after all other expenses are paid. You can see that going by the payout ratio, T's dividend is safer. With VZ's payout ratio of 94% they don't have much room to grow it without bringing in more earnings.

But anyway, the minimum ownership time to get in on a dividend is simply that you must own the shares on the ex-dividend date for the quarter then after you have received the dividend you can get out and (if you're lucky) get all your money back or maybe even a little extra if the market has decided to move the share price up. At least that's the theory but that's not so likely. What's more common and likely is that the price of the stock will drop by the amount of the expected dividend payout after the ex-dividend date has been announced so you're more likely to break even at best. If it were really that easy to make money in the market none of us would need day jobs.
 
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