Official 2012-2013 NBA Playoffs Thread

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Miramonti

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And Robinson is no scrub, but he's inconsistent and often needs to be reigned in. He's been very disciplined the whole game tho.

Bellineli should be much more of a defensive liability too, but he busts his @ss on defense, and that keeps him from atleast being exploited.
 

007ELmO

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Wow. They gave up with 18 seconds to go and down 5. Pussies.

Nate is a scrub, he's the 3rd backup PG. He's an offensive powerhouse, sure, but compared to who should be playing for their team right now - he's a scrub.
 

HendrixFan

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Wow, alot of pent up anger coming out in this thread.

All the Bulls need is the Heat to keep hitting under 30% on open threes, AND Butler and Robinson combining to shoot twice as many FTs as Lebron and Wade and this series is theirs.

Let's see how long SA decides to play without matching the Warriors intensity. This is weird...
 
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Wow. They gave up with 18 seconds to go and down 5. Pussies.

Nate is a scrub, he's the 3rd backup PG. He's an offensive powerhouse, sure, but compared to who should be playing for their team right now - he's a scrub.

No. Nate Robinson is a bad man. Athleticism off the charts and the ability to get his shot off while being 5'9" is fucking incredible
 

Miramonti

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Wow, alot of pent up anger coming out in this thread.

All the Bulls need is the Heat to keep hitting under 30% on open threes, AND Butler and Robinson combining to shoot twice as many FTs as Lebron and Wade and this series is theirs.

Let's see how long SA decides to play without matching the Warriors intensity. This is weird...

Respect...the Bulls had it, the Heat didn't.

I'm not going to suggest the Bulls will take this series, but we know how they hate miami and love to play at home. Now they have home court advantage. Spoelstra has to step up now, because the bulls picked their awesome defense apart.
 

dougp

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Heat are missing wiiiiiiiiiide open threes (rust) and the officiating is, uhm lets call it uneven. You know the biggest difference between Jimmy Butler and Lebron? Butler attacks the basket more and is unable to be defended without fouling when doing so. Or at least the FT disparity between the two players will have you believe.

It isn't often you see a home team (always gets the calls) come up short in the FT dept when they attack like the Heat are. The Bulls are deluding themselves if they think they will get a better shake than tonight.

If they don't win this they get swept.

Wow, a Heat fan complaining about refs. What was that you told me last year when I was complaining?
 
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Respect...the Bulls had it, the Heat didn't.

I'm not going to suggest the Bulls will take this series, but we know how they hate miami and love to play at home. Now they have home court advantage. Spoelstra has to step up now, because the bulls picked their awesome defense apart.

Lot of much ado about nothing. I still expect the Heat to take it
 

Miramonti

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No. Nate Robinson is a bad man. Athleticism off the charts and the ability to get his shot off while being 5'9" is fucking incredible

Exactly. He can get his own shot almost any time and when reigned in, he'll take mostly good shots and do a solid job running the offense. There are a lot of starters that can't do what he's capable of. I gotta keep harping on coaching tho...no one would imagine him as a playoff starter but Thibs rides the sh!t out of him to make good plays/take good shots and not be a fvck up.
 

bigpimpatl

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Wow, alot of pent up anger coming out in this thread.

All the Bulls need is the Heat to keep hitting under 30% on open threes, AND Butler and Robinson combining to shoot twice as many FTs as Lebron and Wade and this series is theirs.

Let's see how long SA decides to play without matching the Warriors intensity. This is weird...

are you suggesting that all three pointers were open? maybe, a tiny fraction of them were wide open. The bulls are a disciplined team on defense, they don't make those kinds of mistakes.

Lebron and wade didn't get to the FT line as much because the whole Bulls team is committed to stopping them. Give em some respect, coming off a game 7 win on the road and <48 hrs beat the champs in game 1.
 

HendrixFan

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Wow, a Heat fan complaining about refs. What was that you told me last year when I was complaining?

If you think Jimmy Butler and Nate Robinson:

A)Deserve to shoot double the FTs as Lebron and Wade combined

B)Will continue to shoot double the FTs as Lebron and Wade combined

then just say so.

I think it is an anomaly and stated (while the Heat were leading) that the Bulls needed to win this game and capitalize on their good fortune.
 

HendrixFan

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I'm not going to suggest the Bulls will take this series, but we know how they hate miami and love to play at home. Now they have home court advantage. Spoelstra has to step up now, because the bulls picked their awesome defense apart.

Bulls are tied for 16th best home record in the NBA. They may love to play at home but they don't typically win there. It is their road record that helped them move up in seeding.
 

Miramonti

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If you think Jimmy Butler and Nate Robinson:

A)Deserve to shoot double the FTs as Lebron and Wade combined

B)Will continue to shoot double the FTs as Lebron and Wade combined

then just say so.

I think it is an anomaly and stated (while the Heat were leading) that the Bulls needed to win this game and capitalize on their good fortune.

That's cr@p. The bulls took it to the heat, driving inside and making the extra pass. The heat stayed outside of the paint most of the time except in transition or offensive rebounds. The players played totally different games. How about Robinson's 5th foul on James in transition when James just shoved him off? Both teams could have gotten more fouls. But you're sounding like a whiner when the bulls won because they made plays down the stretch and the heat didn't.
 

Miramonti

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Bulls are tied for 16th best home record in the NBA. They may love to play at home but they don't typically win there. It is their road record that helped them move up in seeding.

Yeah, how about that Heat home record. Well, there home record in this series is 0-1.
 

Miramonti

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35 4th quarter points for the bulls, and not a single 'bad shot' imo. Much of that was due to the bulls kicking the heat's @ss on the glass, which has always been a significant factor when the bulls have success against them.
 

HendrixFan

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Wade and Lebron kept penetrating into the lane. Wade shot 0 FTs. Butler shot 10.

Look at the shot chart for the 4th quarter, it backs up my claims. The only plays that the Bulls made that the Heat failed to was getting to the line.

Both teams shot around 50% on twos. Heat struggled with plenty of open threes, shooting well below their season average. Even then, home teams nearly always shoot more FTs. To see Butler and Robinson going to the line 10 times each and Wade zero times and Lebron nine times, well that will impact things.

Look at the shot chart. ESPN has it on their game recap under a tab. Miami was in the paint other than their threes.
 

preslove

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Yeah, I guess I should have accounted for rust. It's been a while since the Heat played. This might be a long series, lol. Heat take it in 6 or 7.
 

HendrixFan

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This pace strongly favors the Warriors. The Spurs aren't a grind it out team like they were in years back, but they do need to slow it down to put the game in their favor.
 

Miramonti

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Wade and Lebron kept penetrating into the lane. Wade shot 0 FTs. Butler shot 10.

Look at the shot chart for the 4th quarter, it backs up my claims. The only plays that the Bulls made that the Heat failed to was getting to the line.

Both teams shot around 50% on twos. Heat struggled with plenty of open threes, shooting well below their season average. Even then, home teams nearly always shoot more FTs. To see Butler and Robinson going to the line 10 times each and Wade zero times and Lebron nine times, well that will impact things.

Look at the shot chart. ESPN has it on their game recap under a tab. Miami was in the paint other than their threes.

No question Wade could have gotten some calls. Problem with him is he baits fouls and the refs weren't going for it. So when he was legitimately fouled, the refs didn't appear to give him the benefit of the doubt. Which of butler's calls are you suggesting he didn't deserve? I didn't seen any erroneous calls. Wade's calls were probably low, but aren't why the heat lost.
 
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