Official 2012-2013 NBA Playoffs Thread

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dougp

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I think the .gif clearly shows Ginobili's left hand coming down on Lebron's left forearm before going up for the reverse layup.

From the other angle, Manu missed. They showed the replay on TV ... regardless, there was quite a bit of contact from Miami on the Spurs that wasn't called. Hell, Allen jumped into Green and caused him to fall - no call. Allen shoots the ball, kicks out and gets the foul on Green. At least in the post they're being consistent.
 

Miramonti

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From the other angle, Manu missed. They showed the replay on TV ... regardless, there was quite a bit of contact from Miami on the Spurs that wasn't called. Hell, Allen jumped into Green and caused him to fall - no call. Allen shoots the ball, kicks out and gets the foul on Green. At least in the post they're being consistent.

I'd look it up but don't know the time. Anyhow I have no problem with the reffing in the series. Far from perfect, but good/bad/no calls seem to be fairly balanced and for the most part, not over-called. It's nice to not see a charge/blocking call every time someone drives into the lane.
 

dougp

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I'd look it up but don't know the time. Anyhow I have no problem with the reffing in the series. Far from perfect, but good/bad/no calls seem to be fairly balanced and for the most part, not over-called. It's nice to not see a charge/blocking call every time someone drives into the lane.

Basically, Manu was going to swipe at the ball but pulled his hand back in time - but from the angle of the GIF, it looks like he hit him.

While calls have certainly been ... equal, I would say the timing of them at certain points have affected the flow of the game.
 

darkewaffle

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You know how those horses have those little things, ties in a bullfight, you tie those things to their b---- and they go crazy? I've got two of those tied to Dwight Howard's t--------, so he can't move.

He can't move. If he does, it'll be painful. So he can't go nowhere.

MWP on Howard leaving LA lol. He followed up with the more reasonable

I'm not going to try to convince him. But definitely, I enjoy him, no question about it. I'll leave the convincing to the organization and to the fans. But for myself, I'm just working out and things like that, but I definitely enjoy him. He's a great person. Whoever receives Dwight Howard, they'll really enjoy their time with him. Hopefully, it's with the Lakers, but whoever receives him will really enjoy their time
 

JTsyo

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You said by far the best 3point shooter ever, the percentages are 0.05% apart. Every 1000 shots, Allen hits 5 more. That is not by far the best ever. I don't care what Miller said or didn't say.

If you're talking about 3rd place, you may have a point, but you're not.

1% is 1 out of 100, .1% would be 1 out of 1000 so .05% is 5 out of 10,000.
 

QueBert

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Not when you've labeled yourself the chosen one. The only thing I am a witness to is the most overrated player in nba history.

most overrated, yet he might very well be the the all time scoring leader by the time he retires.


Hummm, how do those 2 work together I'm confused?
 
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most overrated, yet he might very well be the the all time scoring leader by the time he retires.


Hummm, how do those 2 work together I'm confused?

No. His 40+ point outbursts have already fallen off. He's a guy that has used his physical superiority to make it in the nba. When his physical abilities fall off he'll be a scrub as he doesn't have a jumper. Don't expect him to have a Karl Malone type run in his mid thirties.
 

QueBert

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No. His 40+ point outbursts have already fallen off. He's a guy that has used his physical superiority to make it in the nba. When his physical abilities fall off he'll be a scrub as he doesn't have a jumper. Don't expect him to have a Karl Malone type run in his mid thirties.

Outside of a few bad games he had possibly the best seasons of any NBA player in decades. He got 120 of the 121 possible votes for league MVP, which has never been done before. And imho he was robbed not getting that last vote, probably was someone like you who will never give the man his respect. If anything he's still getting better, a lot better. I don't think we're talking about the same player, I must be confused here.
 
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Joey Crawford reffing tonight. The fix in? Donaghee thinks so. He had an interview on the radio where he said he expects calls to go Miami's way.
 

jaedaliu

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Outside of a few bad games he had possibly the best seasons of any NBA player in decades. He got 120 of the 121 possible votes for league MVP, which has never been done before. And imho he was robbed not getting that last vote, probably was someone like you who will never give the man his respect. If anything he's still getting better, a lot better. I don't think we're talking about the same player, I must be confused here.

The 1 vote went to Melo, who had a pretty darn second half. It was a debatable vote, but a wrong one. It has happened before, in 2000 when Shaq was also 1 vote shy.

It took a few years for Lebron to spend the summer improving his game. He's becoming pretty complete as a player. It should be interesting to see what he does in the next few years as he goes past his prime age. To see if he develops a stronger desire to win. That same desire that kept Michael and Kobe developing their game to stay at the top even when their physical skills started declining.
 

dougp

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Joey Crawford reffing tonight. The fix in? Donaghee thinks so. He had an interview on the radio where he said he expects calls to go Miami's way.

Spurs are 2-1 with Crawford this post season, the 1 loss being Game 2 where the Spurs played themselves out of the game. The other two refs are more worrisome than Crawford is right now.
 

RPD

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Outside of a few bad games he had possibly the best seasons of any NBA player in decades. He got 120 of the 121 possible votes for league MVP, which has never been done before. And imho he was robbed not getting that last vote, probably was someone like you who will never give the man his respect. If anything he's still getting better, a lot better. I don't think we're talking about the same player, I must be confused here.

Didn't Shaq get the same amount?

Yep http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...win-mvp-unanimous-vote-leaving-182252615.html
 

child of wonder

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Will get a triple double tonight, guess nobody can have an off day huh?

No, you don't get to brand yourself "The King" and then shit the bed when facing pressure or inferior defenders.

Lebron is an impostor to the throne. Definitely a stat stuffer and one of the best players of all time, but not "The King."
 

edro

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Haters gonna hate because it is an easier argument.
It is simple to tear down anyone when you compare them to every other player in the history of the game.

Lebron can't hit jumpers as well as MJ.
Lebron doesn't have the mental drive of Kobe.
Lebron can't defend the post like Shaq.
Lebron can't run the team like Magic.

Do you see any failure of logic in this? No one can compare to the best of any trait in the history of the game.

Everyone know (Lebron included) that MJ will forever own the title of GOAT.

What makes Lebron special is that he is near the top in most categories, and he is doing it with 2 other stars sharing the stats.

He is the true jack of all trades.
 
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dougp

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Haters gonna hate because it is an easier argument.
It is simple to tear down anyone when you compare them to every other player in the history of the game.

Lebron can't hit jumpers as well as MJ.
Lebron doesn't have the mental drive of Kobe.
Lebron can't defend the post like Shaq.
Lebron can't run the team like Magic.

Do you see any failure of logic in this? No one can compare to the best of any trait in the history of the game.

Lebron has never said he was the greatest of all time. Everyone know (Lebron included) that MJ will forever own that title.

What makes Lebron special is that he is near the top in most categories, and he is doing it with 2 other stars sharing the stats.

He is the true jack of all trades.

So he's Scottie Pippen?

:sneaky:
 

dougp

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Ah yes, this means Luke Walton > Lebron

amirite?

Make it fair and wait for his career to be over, James will have more rings than Pippen.

Do people in Boston know you're cheering for the Heat, or are you still in the closet?
 

child of wonder

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Haters gonna hate because it is an easier argument.
It is simple to tear down anyone when you compare them to every other player in the history of the game.

Lebron can't hit jumpers as well as MJ.
Lebron doesn't have the mental drive of Kobe.
Lebron can't defend the post like Shaq.
Lebron can't run the team like Magic.

Do you see any failure of logic in this? No one can compare to the best of any trait in the history of the game.

Everyone know (Lebron included) that MJ will forever own the title of GOAT.

What makes Lebron special is that he is near the top in most categories, and he is doing it with 2 other stars sharing the stats.

He is the true jack of all trades.

Fine. He should have the "Chosen 1" tattoo removed from his back.
 
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