Official 2012-2013 NBA Playoffs Thread

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lupi

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Bryant stopped following Howard on Twitter after he announced his decision. Bryant also posted a photo on Instagram of him and and Lakers teammate Pau Gasol with hashtags that included "lakercorazon," which means Laker Heart.



 

QueBert

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Great signing for Houston.

He's an injury prone immature primadonna cry baby. *IF* he plays well and *IF* he remains healthy and *IF* he doesn't act like a bitch it could turn out be a good trade. But I wouldn't hold my breath here, hell people were saying the same shit you said when he got traded to the Lakers.
 

Red Storm

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I think Bill Simmons wrote a good article on Howard not too long ago. Basically teams felt compelled to go after him, but at the same time people didn't feel like he was worth max money. His best days are behind him, and to add to that apparently his side asked the Lakers if they were going to amnesty Kobe or not? LOL! It's not just Dwight that's crazy, his representatives are as well.

Ultimately I think the Lakers dodged a bullet. I am more saddened about the loss of Artest than Howard. The dude was a warrior that helped them win a title. It makes total sense why they amnestied him, but I'm still sad to see him go.

Next season's team actually doesn't seem all that bad. I wouldn't call them contenders, but it seems like everyone thinks they're headed to the lottery which seems strange. Tanking ain't in their nature, unlike the Celtics...
 
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It's pretty ridiculous for NBA execs to get butthurt over this, after all of the stuff that's gone on recently.

Remember when Udonis Haslem took WAY less money to stay with the Heat that first year?
 

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Monta Ellis is a moron. He passed on a 3yr/$36M extension to end up with a 3yr/$25M contract.

The Mavs got themselves a nice bargain and a player who can help shoulder the scoring load for Nowitzki. It will be interesting to see what Carlisle can do to get Ellis to play defense and take shots that are within his ability.
 
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Monta Ellis is a moron. He passed on a 3yr/$36M extension to end up with a 3yr/$25M contract.

The Mavs got themselves a nice bargain and a player who can help shoulder the scoring load for Nowitzki. It will be interesting to see what Carlisle can do to get Ellis to play defense and take shots that are within his ability.

One of the better 1/2 combos in the nba if Dirk can still be 90% of 2011 Dirk and Ellis can play team basketball. Not a bad team this year with plenty of cap space next year to hopefully add a number 3 for a legitimate big 3.

What are your thoughts on Calderon? I admit to not having seen much of him but what I did see didn't really impress me.
 

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What are your thoughts on Calderon? I admit to not having seen much of him but what I did see didn't really impress me.

I followed him closely when he and TJ Ford split PG duties in Toronto. Coming from the Univ of Texas I am a huge TJ Ford fan. I haven't seen him as much recently and I'm sure he has aged and his game isn't the same as before, so that is a qualifier. His game wasn't built on athleticism though so a dropoff shouldn't be substantial.

Calderon is a very savvy PG. His Ast/To ratio was always great but it wasn't because he only played within the flow of the offense. He would pile up assists at a good rate even with reduced playing time. His FT shooting is off the charts good, which combined with his Ast/To ratio makes him very good to have around in crunch time. Think of Rondo only all of Rondo's weaknesses are Calderon's strengths and vice versa. Both are incomplete. What they are good at they are really good at, what they are bad at, they are really bad at.

Calderon's defense is suspect (Euro guy), and he doesn't get to the rim well to draw in defenders or finish strong. He is still heady enough to make plays and create opportunities for teammates.

It is currently a strong league for PGs and Calderon is on the downward slope of his career output. His ceiling is known and it isn't too high. At the end of the day I'd still say he is a top 15 PG in the league. If I were running any random team right now, I'd say half of them could land Calderon and upgrade at the point.

Knowing Carlisle, an excellent tactitioner, he will likely find a good balance between running good clean offense with Calderon and attacking second teamers with Ellis and good spacing with shooters.
 
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Thanks for the input. Not overly excited about him but then again the mavs were running Mike James at the point last year.
 

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Thanks for the input. Not overly excited about him but then again the mavs were running Mike James at the point last year.

Grantland just ran a blurb on Calderon being one of the best shooters in the game. It is at the end of the newest Goldsberry piece.

 

Red Storm

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Calderan is a great pickup by Dallas. I've been wanting him on our team since forever ago, oh well.

I do not understand the Ellis signing. Dude is a terribly inefficient offensive player, and bad at defense as well. I still can't believe Cuban blew up that championship squad.
 

lupi

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Still don't think mavs got enough to be a serious concern. In fact, thinking about the west now I could see them and the lakers fighting for the last couple of playoff spots.
 
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