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[vi edit]

Interesting proposal. Philly lost their starting center to a bunch of torn knee ligaments. That could impact their running game some. I don't know what to say about the trade. Cruz and Jones would be an incredible WR1/2 combo, but I am always fearful about McGahee's health. He's not exactly young and they are really running him in Denver.

 

[NoCreativity]

I just got proposed this trade:

I give up LeSean McCoy.
I get Willis McGahee and Victor Cruz.

The rest of my RBs/WRs are Frank Gore, Ben Tate, Julio Jones, VJax, Torrey Smith, and then a bunch of bench players. This seems really in my favor. McGahee seems to have the easier schedule ahead. McCoy always has to worry about Vick pilfering his goal line carries.

If your format is 3 WRs I'd lean towards a yes because I like Cruz. Pretty consistent with some great upside and rarely disappoints. Only issue I have is that McGahee is older and misses a couple games per year on average. With Gore being your other top RB (also misses a couple games on average) that could cause some issues since your backup RBs aren't great.

I'd look at the trade as high risk, high reward.

 

[NoCreativity]

Got proposed a trade in non-PPR league:

I get Celek
I give up one of my bench RBs: CJnoK, Donald Brown, LeShoure, or Andre Brown

Starting TE is Cook and have Fleener on the bench, neither is good but Fleener has some potential . Starting RBs are Murray and Ridley.

I could also pick up Bennet from NYG instead of trading but I'm not sure he is as good as Celek.

Any thoughts?

 

[crownjules]

It's 2RB, 2WR, and then a RB/WR flex.

And that's pretty much how I am looking at it. I'd be getting a flex slot player who's pretty much a guaranteed 10+ points per game with potential for much more. But I'd be assuming a lot more risk of one (or both) of my RBs going down. Ugh. If I had any one else other than Gore this would be an easy decision.

So far I've put up the most points through the first two weeks. So it's not like I'm desperate to change things up. I want to pull the trigger and roll the dice, but the sensible side of me says it's not necessary.

 

[SunnyD]

I guess it's pretty much official - Decker gets the pine, Thomas is Peyton's favorite WR.

 

[vi edit]

I guess it's pretty much official - Decker gets the pine, Thomas is Peyton's favorite WR.

I think you are going to see a completely random assortment of looks in Denver. It's not like he has a telepathic link to any of those guys like he did with Harrison, Wayne or Clark. He's just going to look at the field, decide at the line what his best option is, and run with it. Depending on the defense it's going to change by week.

 

[VoteQuimby]

I'm being offered BJGE & Turbin (I have Lynch) for CJ0k and Tamme (my backup TE to Graham. Thoughts? I'm really considering this. My other RBs are Lynch, McGahee, Brown.

 

[tontod]

Should I start Alfred Morris (vs. CIN) or Sproles (vs. KC)?

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Dude, do you really NEED another RB and 1 less WR for that setup?

its a keeper league, so i try to stack on guys that might explode... next year DMC can be kept for 6, and julio for 10, so both great bargains

 

[AMDZen]

Got proposed a trade in non-PPR league:

I get Celek
I give up one of my bench RBs: CJnoK, Donald Brown, LeShoure, or Andre Brown

Starting TE is Cook and have Fleener on the bench, neither is good but Fleener has some potential . Starting RBs are Murray and Ridley.

I could also pick up Bennet from NYG instead of trading but I'm not sure he is as good as Celek.

Any thoughts?

TE is a position that holds little value outside the top 3-4 options

Pick up Martellus Bennett and call it a day. Celek isn't worth much more

 

[spidey07]

Patriots picked up Deion Branch. Dude did me really good two years ago when they pulled this mid season, he's the deep threat and could be huge for your team. I think I'll put 20 bucks on waiver that's tomorrow at 4:00 am.

Can somebody explain waiver real quick? Is it like a silent auction (not knowing who put what) where you can't change your bid and who ever is highest get's it? I didn't use waiver much last year and had most of my money left.

 

[FallenHero]

Assuming its auction Spidey, its a blind bid. Largest bid wins and it is blind, or should be. if its not, it goes through whatever waiver priority your league has set up.

 

[spidey07]

Assuming its auction Spidey, its a blind bid. Largest bid wins and it is blind, or should be. if its not, it goes through whatever waiver priority your league has set up.

Does this help? There's a fair amount of custom settings on this league, but not huge. There is waiver priority but only on ties from my understanding. I still don't know what FAAB is. Free agent auction block? Yahoo FF.

Max Acquisitions per Week: No maximum
Max Trades for Entire Season No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: November 16, 2012
Allow Draft Pick Trades: No
Trade Review: Commissioner
Waiver Time: 1 day
Waiver Type: FAAB w/ Continual rolling list tiebreak
Weekly Waivers Sunday - Tuesday
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules

 

[Crono]

Does this help? There's a fair amount of custom settings on this league, but not huge. There is waiver priority but only on ties from my understanding. I still don't know what FAAB is. Free agent auction block? Yahoo FF.

FAAB is free-agent acquisition budget. Essentially secret auction for waiver wire adds. Standard leagues don't have FAAB, but just use a waiver priority system (priority at week 1 is reverse of draft order, and then you get bumped down the waiver priority list every time you make a waiver claim).

With FAAB, though, you have to spend at least a little of your budget to acquire a player so you have to make sure you aren't picking up too many players at the beginning of the season if you anticipate needing help later on.

 

[spidey07]

FAAB is free-agent acquisition budget. Essentially secret auction for waiver wire adds. Standard leagues don't have FAAB, but just use a waiver priority system (priority at week 1 is reverse of draft order, and then you get bumped down the waiver priority list every time you make a waiver claim).

With FAAB, though, you have to spend at least a little of your budget to acquire a player so you have to make sure you aren't picking up too many players at the beginning of the season if you anticipate needing help later on.

Thanks, that makes sense. Is there a good strategy here for picking up folks on waiver in a 14 man league? Seems bids have been in the 1-2 buck range followed by others at 10 and 12. I didn't use it much last year so I'm fine with going over the top at 20-22, my team is strong but I need W/T help. I always need receivers it seems.

One dude's waiver budget is already done. Ogletree. That dude makes so many changes to his roster every single week and wonders why he's always at the bottom half. He plays week to week instead of building a strong and balanced team ready to absorb any shortcomings from a few players.

I guess my question is what do I bid to have a strong chance of getting somebody that won't be a stud, but will help me out?

 

[Crono]

Thanks, that makes sense. Is there a good strategy here for picking up folks on waiver in a 14 man league? Seems bids have been in the 1-2 buck range followed by others at 10 and 12. I didn't use it much last year so I'm fine with going over the top at 20-22, my team is strong but I need W/T help. I always need receivers it seems.

One dude's waiver budget is already done. Ogletree.

Ha, I didn't jump on the Ogletree bandwagon.

In your situation I would put in multiple low bids for different players if you have room on your roster or can dump players. I'd save the big bucks for week 6 and on when there is greater clarity of roster depth, QB efficiency, etc. and when players start to get injured during critical, "must-win" weeks. It's only Week 3 and it's hard to see consistency of any non-starter until after at least Week 4.

I'm in a standard waiver league and have Brian Hartline, Brandon LaFell, Donnie Avery, and Dennis Pitta waivers put in. 10 team league. I'm only dropping one player (Rice) so only one of those waivers will actually go through, but my priority is 6 now out of 10 so I'd probably only get one, anyway. Those receivers were well targeted in Week 2 and performed decently in Week 1, so hopefully I get lucky. My league is PPR, so someone like Hartline (I've picked him up past years as well) can be a good PPR play from time to time.

 

[spidey07]

Ha, I didn't jump on the Ogletree bandwagon.

In your situation I would put in multiple low bids for different players if you have room on your roster or can dump players. I'd save the big bucks for week 6 and on when there is greater clarity of roster depth, QB efficiency, etc. and when players start to get injured during critical, "must-win" weeks. It's only Week 3 and it's hard to see consistency of any non-starter until after at least Week 4.

I'm in a standard waiver league and have Brian Hartline, Brandon LaFell, Donnie Avery, and Dennis Pitta waivers put in. 10 team league. I'm only dropping one player (Rice) so only one of those waivers will actually go through, but my priority is 6 now out of 10 so I'd probably only get one, anyway. Those receivers were well targeted in Week 2 and performed decently in Week 1, so hopefully I get lucky. My league is PPR, so someone like Hartline (I've picked him up past years as well) can be a good PPR play from time to time.

Are you telling me I can drop the same player for many waiver pickups? If so this changes everything for me.

Add Branch, drop RB Jennings
Add NYG TE Bennet (no required TE slot), drop RB jennings

And just see where the chips fall? If so I can lower my bids.

 

[dougp]

Are you telling me I can drop the same player for many waiver pickups? If so this changes everything for me.

Add Branch, drop RB Jennings
Add NYG TE Bennet (no required TE slot), drop RB jennings

And just see where the chips fall? If so I can lower my bids.

Yes, you can do that.

 

[Crono]

Are you telling me I can drop the same player for many waiver pickups? If so this changes everything for me.

Add Branch, drop RB Jennings
Add NYG TE Bennet (no required TE slot), drop RB jennings

And just see where the chips fall? If so I can lower my bids.

Well, it is one-to-one (assuming you don't have empty bench slots), you can drop one player to pick up another. So yes, you could do that.

I put it multiple waiver requests in case someone with a higher priority chooses the player I want. That way I at least get another player I am interested in. There are 4 players I wouldn't mind picking up this week to stash away, I think there's a good chance I get one of them.

That's the way it works on Yahoo, at least. Same principle with FAAB, except you give up "cash" instead of waiver priority if you make a successful bid.

 

[weirdichi]

Hmm... should I pick up a DEF this week and sit Baltimore vs Patriots?

My DEF pickups are:
BUF vs CLE
MIA vs NYJ
TB vs DAL
IND vs JAX
NO vs KC

Also, I'm assuming Forte won't play this week, so hopefully I can get Andre Brown or hope Beanie Wells is good enough to go.

 

[Kev]

Hmm... should I pick up a DEF this week and sit Baltimore vs Patriots?

My DEF pickups are:
BUF vs CLE
MIA vs NYJ
TB vs DAL
IND vs JAX
NO vs KC

Also, I'm assuming Forte won't play this week, so hopefully I can get Andre Brown or hope Beanie Wells is good enough to go.

personally i am starting the ravens. the pats aren't exactly clicking right now and the ravens D is always a threat to go off

 

[tontod]

Do you guys think I should start Cam Newton against NYG or Big Ben against Oakland? Or I could pick up Matt Cassel by dropping Big Ben and start him.

 

[vi edit]

Sorry, you never bench Newton. Don't care about the matchup. Guy has too much potential to put up 30+ points each and every week.

 

[tontod]

Sorry, you never bench Newton. Don't care about the matchup. Guy has too much potential to put up 30+ points each and every week.

Thanks, yeah I'll keep Newton. Now trying to decide my RB2 slot - Jonathan Dwyer (vs. OAK) or Ben Tate (vs. DEN)?

 

[NoCreativity]

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