* * * Official 2012 Fantasy Football Discussion Thread * * *

[TangoJuliet]

Two finals match-ups this week, woohoo! :awe:

KT

Nice job. I think you are going to take the keeper league. Your team is on such a roll right now.

 

[KeithTalent]

Nice job. I think you are going to take the keeper league. Your team is on such a roll right now.

Thanks man. Yeah that trade helped me a lot, even though I have Fitzgerlad sitting on my bench, getting Brady and Newton has been massive. Oh and the Seahawks D of course.

KT

 

[AstroManLuca]

Pretty crazy, my buddy was up by 2 points with his opponent coming into the game with Bironas. Bironas got two points so the game is tied, they both have a tied head to head matchup in the season and my buddy wins due to playoff seeding (he is 4th, opponent 5th). Does not get much closer than that

Ugh, I wouldn't want to be in a league with that kind of scoring and tiebreaker setup.

So basically you have non-fractional scoring, which means ties are relatively common, and you use head-to-head and then seeding as tiebreakers?

The ideal league setup should be:

- Fractional scoring
- Matchup tiebreaker is total yards (not seeding, record, or bench points)
- Playoff seeding based on record, with ties broken by points for (not head to head)

It doesn't make any sense to use seeding to determine the win in a playoff game. Why does that make a difference? If a tie happens in the regular season, it's considered a tie; you wouldn't just give the win to whoever has the better record going into the game. Shouldn't be different for the playoffs.

Or if you insist on using whole number scoring only, just temporarily turn on fractional scoring to break ties.

 

[Kev]

It's not b, they all take it pretty seriously and are actively involved.

Regarding statistics, my team made the most moves of all teams with 30. A lot of those moves were based on news, injury, hedging on possibilities so that's where the skill part came in. My team only has 5 of the people I originally drafted. I agree there's a good amount of luck involved. But the only reason I am in the finals/playoffs was because of big moves in players and picking them up off waiver by outbidding everybody else.

The easiest example I can think of is picking up TY hilton early in the season because I'm a Colts fan and have seen what he can do, crazy fast. He's been money.

aka luck

Also.. One league I'm in where people are most active is the one where I'm consistently in the top 4 every year. Why? Because they actively make bad decisions and bad trades.

 

[NoCreativity]

So basically you have non-fractional scoring, which means ties are relatively common, and you use head-to-head and then seeding as tiebreakers?

Ties aren't all that common, at least they haven't been in my 10 team league. Over the last 8-9 years I think we have had maybe 6 total. Non this year.

I do agree that fractional scoring is much better and I like your tie breakers.

 

[helpme]

Miles Austin
Steve Smith
Reggie Wayne
Vick Ballard

Pick 1 to bench, what say you guys (non ppr)?

I want to bench Austin, but he is playing the Saints. My opponent has Cam, so I wanted to leave in Steve Smith to hopefully counter some of Cam's impact.

 

[HNNstyle]

Indianapolis Vs Cheifs
San Diego Vs Jets
Arizona Vs Bears
Houston Vs Vikings
Seattle Vs 49ers


These are all the potential waiver wire picks for this coming week in my league. Who do you guys think will put up the most points? I'm thinking Indianapolis Colts right now.

 

[eits]

Miles Austin
Steve Smith
Reggie Wayne
Vick Ballard

Pick 1 to bench, what say you guys (non ppr)?

I want to bench Austin, but he is playing the Saints. My opponent has Cam, so I wanted to leave in Steve Smith to hopefully counter some of Cam's impact.

bench reggie wayne. i know i caught shit for saying that last time, but i was right, so fuck anyone who disagrees.

 

[eits]

Indianapolis Vs Cheifs
San Diego Vs Jets
Arizona Vs Bears
Houston Vs Vikings
Seattle Vs 49ers


These are all the potential waiver wire picks for this coming week in my league. Who do you guys think will put up the most points? I'm thinking Indianapolis Colts right now.

san diego. that's about 2 turnovers and a pick six waiting to happen. maybe 4 sacks.

 

[HNNstyle]

san diego. that's about 2 turnovers and a pick six waiting to happen. maybe 4 sacks.

What about the colts? KC is giving up a lot of points too.

 

[MetalMat]

Which WR should I start? PPR league

Lance Moore @ Dallas
Greg Jennings vs Titans
Danario Alexander @ Jets

There are some people available on waivers as well but nobody too great: Josh Gordon, Dennis Pitta, Davone Bess, Kenny Britt, Donnie Avery.

 

[MetalMat]

san diego. that's about 2 turnovers and a pick six waiting to happen. maybe 4 sacks.

I don't really know what to make of that game. If you watched San Diego last week it looks like the team was totally given up on Norv Turner and the Jets will be sitting Mark Sanchez.

 

[AMDZen]

Alright - post your advice for my "Must Win" matchup this week. I have so many options I don't know who to start this week, I have to get it right so don't just say who you would start but why.

Its 2 RB's and 2 WR's and a FLEX but I always start a RB in flex, always. Not going to change my winning ways when I'm 11-3 with a Bye last week

Non PPR, standard scoring

RB (Pick 3) = Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, Stevan Ridley, Jamaal Charles, Reggie Bush
WR (pick 2) = Victor Cruz, Randall Cobb, Eric Decker, Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon

I think I want to wait to see if RG3 starts. If he does I might play Pierre, and if he doesn't I will play Morris, however if Kirk Cousins starts I would play Morris and not Pierre. Logic there is that he didn't throw to Pierre last week and RG3 would take runs away from Morris. I have so many great running backs, I have the luxury of starting someone else. Otherwise I am looking to start Arian Foster for sure (no brainer) and Steven Ridley. If RG3 plays I think I'm leaning to Jamaal Charles over Morris, however Bush has a great matchup but has been benched for a while for a reason.

On the WR side I am currently looking at Victor Cruz and Randall Cobb but again, if RG3 plays I might play Pierre because that is his go to receiver.

Thoughts?? Make them good folks

 

[Imported]

Not worried that Ridley may see his role diminish due to his fumbling problems last week? Especially since Woodhead seemed to be the guy after his second one.

I'd go Foster, Morris and Charles at RB; Cobb and Cruz at WR.

 

[AMDZen]

Not worried that Ridley may see his role diminish due to his fumbling problems last week? Especially since Woodhead seemed to be the guy after his second one.

I'd go Foster, Morris and Charles at RB; Cobb and Cruz at WR.

Not really no. Shane Vereen fumbled too and Woodhead is not a grinder of a RB. He was in there so much because they were playing from behind and he is more of a threat in the passing game.

 

[eits]

What about the colts? KC is giving up a lot of points too.

indy's defense isn't a good fantasy defense.

i don't think the jets can come back from such a deflating defeat to play football at any sort of professional level... that, compared to one of the better fantasy defenses in the league = points.

 

[eits]

Alright - post your advice for my "Must Win" matchup this week. I have so many options I don't know who to start this week, I have to get it right so don't just say who you would start but why.

Its 2 RB's and 2 WR's and a FLEX but I always start a RB in flex, always. Not going to change my winning ways when I'm 11-3 with a Bye last week

Non PPR, standard scoring

RB (Pick 3) = Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, Stevan Ridley, Jamaal Charles, Reggie Bush
WR (pick 2) = Victor Cruz, Randall Cobb, Eric Decker, Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon

I think I want to wait to see if RG3 starts. If he does I might play Pierre, and if he doesn't I will play Morris, however if Kirk Cousins starts I would play Morris and not Pierre. Logic there is that he didn't throw to Pierre last week and RG3 would take runs away from Morris. I have so many great running backs, I have the luxury of starting someone else. Otherwise I am looking to start Arian Foster for sure (no brainer) and Steven Ridley. If RG3 plays I think I'm leaning to Jamaal Charles over Morris, however Bush has a great matchup but has been benched for a while for a reason.

On the WR side I am currently looking at Victor Cruz and Randall Cobb but again, if RG3 plays I might play Pierre because that is his go to receiver.

Thoughts?? Make them good folks

foster, morris, charles
garcon, cobb (maybe decker... flip a coin)

edit: just saw cruz was playing baltimore... it's a must-win game... go garcon, cruz.

 

[AmdEmAll]

WR pick 3 (Calvin Johnson, Victor Cruz, Pierre Garcon, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Kenny Britt, Danario Alexander)

 

[Kev]

Argh... now that McCoy is back, I need to pick 2 of these 3 for 2 flex spots:

LeSean McCoy
Steve Johnson
Greg Olsen

I'm leaning to McCoy/Johnson but I don't know how much work McCoy will get, plus he is playing a tough run D while the other 2 have pretty easy matchups as far as pass D. If I bench McCoy and lose because of that I will feel like an effing idiot...

 

[Kev]

WR pick 3 (Calvin Johnson, Victor Cruz, Pierre Garcon, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Kenny Britt, Danario Alexander)

I would probably go with the first 3 on your list.

 

[eits]

WR pick 3 (Calvin Johnson, Victor Cruz, Pierre Garcon, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Kenny Britt, Danario Alexander)

johnson, cruz, garcon

 

[eits]

Argh... now that McCoy is back, I need to pick 2 of these 3 for 2 flex spots:

LeSean McCoy
Steve Johnson
Greg Olsen

I'm leaning to McCoy/Johnson but I don't know how much work McCoy will get, plus he is playing a tough run D while the other 2 have pretty easy matchups as far as pass D. If I bench McCoy and lose because of that I will feel like an effing idiot...

i feel your pain on that one. i benched mccoy against the skins. even though mccoy gets a lot of his yards by reception, i think the skins will be all over it. steve johnson, unfortunately, is your best bet. aren't there any better free agents available?

 

[Kev]

i feel your pain on that one. i benched mccoy against the skins. even though mccoy gets a lot of his yards by reception, i think the skins will be all over it. steve johnson, unfortunately, is your best bet. aren't there any better free agents available?

12 teams and 17 roster spots so it's a pretty deep league. the best FA available is dennis pitta, the rest is just crap.

Would you start McCoy over Olsen?

 

[HNNstyle]

Which quarter back should I play this week? My choices off of the waiver wire are Eli Manning, Josh Freeman, Colin Kapernick, or Russell Wilson.

 

[AmdEmAll]

Which quarter back should I play this week? My choices off of the waiver wire are Eli Manning, Josh Freeman, Colin Kapernick, or Russell Wilson.

I would and I am going with Wilson.