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raystorm

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Holy fucking shit these losses by the Mets the past four games have been BRUTAL. The bullpen is just awful in every way. This is really a make or break time as the Mets will play the Natinals 5 more times before the trading deadline.
 

anxi80

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Holy fucking shit these losses by the Mets the past four games have been BRUTAL. The bullpen is just awful in every way. This is really a make or break time as the Mets will play the Natinals 5 more times before the trading deadline.

If they're serious about getting Broxton they better hurry then.
 

hclarkjr

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Holy fucking shit these losses by the Mets the past four games have been BRUTAL. The bullpen is just awful in every way. This is really a make or break time as the Mets will play the Natinals 5 more times before the trading deadline.
the mets need a reliever badly and they need to release bay. glad collins at least pinch hit for him when it counted last night
 

SP33Demon

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Holy fucking shit these losses by the Mets the past four games have been BRUTAL. The bullpen is just awful in every way. This is really a make or break time as the Mets will play the Natinals 5 more times before the trading deadline.

I know the Mets do need a reliever but that game should have never even made it into extras. Clippard giving up a pinch hit 3 run HR doesn't happen every game - I don't have much confidence in him despite his good numbers. Hoping Storen is back asap (1-2 more rehab starts and he's back). While Clippard has been lights out, I think he has too many wild streaks to be a closer and is really just a two trick pony (92 mph fastball and changeup). Not good enough to win in the playoffs IMO, and the 3 run shot last night was a result of the batter sitting on his changeup which is in the low 80's with not much movement. I always worry when he's trying to close.

Also, getting beat by Bryce Harper isn't exactly something to be ashamed of, and Thole not having the skills to block such a shitty pitch isn't out of the ordinary.
 
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hclarkjr

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i put the blame for that wild pitch on Beato not thole. i think even a more experienced catcher would not have blocked that pitch
 

raystorm

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they need to release bay. glad collins at least pinch hit for him when it counted last night


Valdespin is such a ham but he can be fun to watch. He'll probably get plunked sooner or later because of his antics but I don't care..he brings energy to the club unlike Bay who is FINISHED. I wouldn't be shocked if the Mets just straight up released him next year ala Ollie and Castillo and just deal with the payroll hit.
 

Ayrahvon

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Some more on Clippard's chokejob last night. This article says he relies on the changeup 33% of the time. Why wouldn't the Mets (or any other team) just sit on it? The guy needs to develop a 3rd pitch or he'll just end up as the modern day Keith Foulke (although Foulke located the fastball much better).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ange-up-often/2012/07/17/gJQADkQFtW_blog.html

Not sure, but he's been solid this year outside of this one game!

I'm completely out of my main league this year, too many injuries and I'm thinking of trading down to get some value keepers for next year.

I have Chris Sale right now who's been lights out all season, but someone is offering me Kipnis and Fowler for him, who have had very solid seasons and are only worth $1 a pop... decisions decisions.
 

raystorm

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Johan Santana has been pretty bad since the no hitter and manager Terry Collins may skip Johan's next start or even DL him (dead arm). Miguel "The Poet" Batista starts today (LOL) so I already expect a big fat loss against the Dodgers. Why is he still in the majors? Matt Kemp is gonna kill him.

Its been awhile since I've seen the A's do well against the Yanks. The A's have some really solid pitching.

Some news on Hamels and the Phils..

ESPN's Jim Bowden reports the Phillies and Cole Hamels are working on a long-term extension "which could end up" in the range of six years and $142-144 million.

This is considerably higher than the six-year, $130 million contract that was reported earlier this week. The Phillies have intensified their efforts to sign Hamels, though it's not yet clear if this would be enough to get it done. The reported offer would pay Hamels significantly more than the $127.5 million extension the Giants gave Matt Cain earlier this season.


edit: Johan to the DL with an ankle injury that he suffered two weeks ago against the Cubs. ...after all this time nothing was said about that?
 
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BrokenVisage

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Wow, Ichiro traded to the Yankees for 2 pitching prospects, huge news! First of all, how do the Yankees have ANY good prospects that other teams would covet at this point? Secondly, I never in a million years would have thought the Mariners would trade this guy. He's old and a shell of his former self, but a life-long Mariner who is going to the HOF, and the fact that he's Asian is a big deal too in that area. Anyway, Yuck the fankees, carry on! I had to laugh at what one of the ESPN commenters said on this though:
Dear Yankees,

We're sorry we traded you an injured Michael Pineda. Please have Ichiro.

Signed,

Seattle Mariners Management
 
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jalaram

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Wow, Ichiro traded to the Yankees for 2 pitching prospects, huge news! First of all, how do the Yankees have ANY good prospects that other teams would covet at this point? Secondly, I never in a million years would have thought the Mariners would trade this guy. He's old and a shell of his former self, but a life-long Mariner who is going to the HOF, and the fact that he's Asian is a big deal too in that area. Anyway, Yuck the fankees, carry on! I had to laugh at what one of the ESPN commenters said on this though:

This might be like trading Ray Borque just so he can have a fair shot at a ring.
 

rcpratt

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Of course the Ichiro trade gets all the press since it's the Yankees.

Bigger moves by both the Braves (maybe) and Tigers.
 
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raystorm

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My god the Mets are DONE. They have the nerve to bring up Manny Acosta for tonights game. What a joke. SELL SELL SELL!
 

raystorm

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So the Marlins traded Omar Infante and Anibal Sanchez the other day...more to come?

Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Marlins are fielding trade interest in right-handers Josh Johnson and Ricky Nolasco, third baseman Hanley Ramirez, first baseman Carlos Lee and left-handed reliever Randy Choate.

The Marlins traded Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante to the Tigers on Monday and should continue to sell off parts in the days ahead. However, Rosenthal notes that they intend to "make baseball trades, not simply dump salaries." Johnson would likely bring the most in return, but Scott Miller of CBSSports.com reported late Monday night that the Marlins would prefer to keep him. The 28-year-old right-hander is under contract for $13.75 million next year, after which he becomes a free agent
 

SP33Demon

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Hamels re-signs with Phillies! 6 years $140M, insanity but at least we kept him from free agency.

Yeah that's HUGE. So glad to see Cole sticking around for 6 more years as the 2nd highest paid pitcher in baseball history. He has barely hit his prime and it guarantees the Phils will at least still have their good starting pitching (despite no bullpen lol).

Hanley Ramirez going to the Dodgers?! Wow! LA is showing it doesn't want to be part of the new wild card format and let's see if this pushes them past SF. They didn't give up much to get him either.

Pirates pick up Wandy Rodriguez to help them with their playoff push, very solid since he's a lefty. They did have to give up three prospects though (including two good lefties in AAA) and Rodriguez isn't all that young (33).

And the Mets lose again to their Nat daddy who finally solved RA Dickey (his first loss in 3 months!). Dickey owns Bryce Harper though, striking him out in 6 of 10 at bats lol. I like the Nats chances today with Strasburg vs a rookie pitcher for the sweep. Nats are now tied with Texas for 2nd best winning % in baseball (.594) and breathing down the Yanks (.598) back.

Jayson Werth started his rehab AAA assignment last night: “The wrist was good,’’ Werth said. “No pain. That’s the most important thing at this point. Timing’s an issue. I haven’t played in a while so that’ll come.’’
 

raystorm

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Marlins fire sale is on!

Dodgers acquired INF Hanley Ramirez and LHP Randy Choate from the Marlins for RHP Nathan Eovaldi and RHP Scott McGough.

It's fair to say that the new Dodgers' ownership is signaling that they are in it to win it. There have been whispers that Ramirez's act was wearing thin in Miami, but it would be a lot easier to put up with if he produced like he has in the past. After a disappointing and injury-plagued season in 2011, the 28-year-old is batting just .246/.322/.428 with 14 home runs and 48 RBI through 93 games. The Dodgers will pick up the roughly $38.5 million left on Ramirez's contract, which runs through 2014. Still, it's a modest price to pay for someone who could pay huge dividends if he bounces back. It's not yet clear if he'll remain at third base with the Dodgers or return to shortstop.
 

Perknose

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Wow, so little for Hanley. I guess being a world class meathead really does affect your value. Ramirez has too much talent not to rebound significantly, at least in the short term, which will make this trade a huge plus for the Dodgers.

But . . . sometime in the next year or two there will be . . . problems.
 

raystorm

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Boy..the Mets don't even look like they want to play today. They are going through the motions now and against Strasburg they look DEAD. Seriously..no effort so far today. Its kinda offensive really.
 

hclarkjr

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Boy..the Mets don't even look like they want to play today. They are going through the motions now and against Strasburg they look DEAD. Seriously..no effort so far today. Its kinda offensive really.
yeah, they have gone flat. with all the injuries they have suffered this year i am surprised they made it this far close to 500 club. they need to get some some spark back somehow
 

NeoV

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I've said for some time - from a talent standpoint - the Mets simply aren't very good at all - without the amazing performance by Dickey - one of the most baffling things I've ever seen by the way - and the best first half of Wright's career - they are never in contention this season to start with, which is quite frankly where they should be.

Very surprised that Hanley was traded for so little.

I wonder if the Marlins can get someone to take fat-ass Health Bell of their hands, he's awful.

Josh Johnson would be a nice pickup for the Nationals if they are serious about shutting Strasburg down.
 
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