*OFFICIAL* 2012 NFL Playoffs thread

[IndyColtsFan]

actually, it really doesn't mean anything. It's not statistically significant in terms of being predictive of any future games, anyway. All it says is that in 9 previous games, Manning beat this team. That's neat, but as far as the next game is concerned, it has an identical predictive power of using the results of the Redskins/Cowboys game to predict the presidential election that year.

You guys are overlooking the defensive schemes of the Ravens and the fact that Manning is extremely familiar with them. That's the point I'm making. He has played them 9 straight years and his intimate familiarity with their defensive schemes and personnel most certainly does give him an advantage. To discount that level of familiarity and the success he has had because of it is wrong.

It is the same reason that the Colts can beat the Packers but lose to the Jags -- the familiarity between the Colts and Jags (and frankly of any division rivals) often trumps what common sense would otherwise dictate.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The Ravens defense has stopped Manning plenty of times, the issue usually is the Ravens offense. For some reason they could never get anything going against the Colts defense. The 2006 playoff game is a perfect example.

They also stopped Manning for the first half of the Broncos game this year, then Joe threw that pick 6 and it was game over.

I'm not saying they haven't stopped him in the past, but off the top of my head, I can only remember one time and it was a playoff game the Colts won.

 

[AMDZen]

Here is how I view the games this weekend. AFC games seem like no brainers where as the two NFC matchups are both almost "pick-em" games. Stark contrast.

Seattle @ Atlanta - Crazy game right here that could go either way. 2 to 2.5 point spread at home means Seattle is almost favored as Atlanta should have 3 points simply for home field advantage. Nobody believes in Atlanta and rightfully so, Matty "ICE" melts in the playoffs. I think this trend most likely continues but it all pertains to how the game unfolds. Atlanta is a small defense, not a good defense against the run at all and thrive on turnovers. They will need positive turn over differential to win this game. Could definitely happen with their ball-hawking corners and Mike Nolan's scheme's, but will need to try and stop Marshawn Lynch early. If he gets going early, watch out. I lean toward Seattle in a 3 point, last minute field goal type game

Green Bay @ San Francisco - another "pick em" game where the spread is 3.5 points so the home team is favored at least in this one. Green Bay beat San Fran early in the year and San Fran is a little banged up. Rookie QB Copper Nickles will have his hands full on this one with Green Bay all pro defensive back Charles Woodson back and healthy. Green Bay found a running game late in the season and that will help them greatly. Aaron Rodgers is on fire. Tough tough game to pick but I believe in Aaron Rodgers, he is an elite QB and will find a way to get it done. Another lean toward Green Bayin a 3 point, last minute field goal / Touch down type game. Hoping for a repeat of the insane affair we witnesses last year with NO @ San Fran.

 

[diesbudt]

Here is how I view the games this weekend. AFC games seem like no brainers where as the two NFC matchups are both almost "pick-em" games. Stark contrast.

Seattle @ Atlanta - Crazy game right here that could go either way. 2 to 2.5 point spread at home means Seattle is almost favored as Atlanta should have 3 points simply for home field advantage. Nobody believes in Atlanta and rightfully so, Matty "ICE" melts in the playoffs. I think this trend most likely continues but it all pertains to how the game unfolds. Atlanta is a small defense, not a good defense against the run at all and thrive on turnovers. They will need positive turn over differential to win this game. Could definitely happen with their ball-hawking corners and Mike Nolan's scheme's, but will need to try and stop Marshawn Lynch early. If he gets going early, watch out. I lean toward Seattle in a 3 point, last minute field goal type game

Green Bay @ San Francisco - another "pick em" game where the spread is 3.5 points so the home team is favored at least in this one. Green Bay beat San Fran early in the year and San Fran is a little banged up. Rookie QB Copper Nickles will have his hands full on this one with Green Bay all pro defensive back Charles Woodson back and healthy. Green Bay found a running game late in the season and that will help them greatly. Aaron Rodgers is on fire. Tough tough game to pick but I believe in Aaron Rodgers, he is an elite QB and will find a way to get it done. Another lean toward Green Bayin a 3 point, last minute field goal / Touch down type game. Hoping for a repeat of the insane affair we witnesses last year with NO @ San Fran.

Uh... Green bay did not beat San fran earlier in the year. First game of the season the 49ers won 30-22.

 

[AMDZen]

Uh... Green bay did not beat San fran earlier in the year. First game of the season the 49ers won 30-22.

Oops, my bad.

 

[hclarkjr]

Baltimore at Denver - broncos ( will be rooting for ravens though )
Green Bay at San Francisco - packers

Seattle at Atlanta - seahawks
Houston at New England - patriots

if you are a betting man take the oppsite of what i pick and make some money
http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots

 

[diesbudt]

Baltimore at Denver - broncos ( will be rooting for ravens though )
Green Bay at San Francisco - packers

Seattle at Atlanta - seahawks
Houston at New England - patriots

if you are a betting man take the oppsite of what i pick and make some money

Sadly I agree with all your picks.

And I will be rooting for

Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, Texans. Why?

Ravens, I do not like the broncos and love when a team upsets a power team.

Packers, Well... duh

Seahawks, enjoying russell wilson playing and would love a GB Seattle rematch not in seattl

Texans, I dislike the patriots the most from the AFC. They are just lucky I am a packer fan, which means by design I must dislike the bears the most, so patriots are not last.

 

[cronos]

Sadly I agree with all your picks.

And I will be rooting for

Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, Texans. Why?

Ravens, I do not like the broncos and love when a team upsets a power team.

Packers, Well... duh

Seahawks, enjoying russell wilson playing and would love a GB Seattle rematch not in seattl

Texans, I dislike the patriots the most from the AFC. They are just lucky I am a packer fan, which means by design I must dislike the bears the most, so patriots are not last.

Almost exactly the same as you with pretty much the same reasons, except I will root for the Broncos because I love their colors

 

[SP33Demon]

You guys are overlooking the defensive schemes of the Ravens and the fact that Manning is extremely familiar with them. That's the point I'm making. He has played them 9 straight years and his intimate familiarity with their defensive schemes and personnel most certainly does give him an advantage. To discount that level of familiarity and the success he has had because of it is wrong.

It is the same reason that the Colts can beat the Packers but lose to the Jags -- the familiarity between the Colts and Jags (and frankly of any division rivals) often trumps what common sense would otherwise dictate.

Um, Manning doesn't exactly have his best games against B.More. He may win, but it's not like he's destroying them and that even includes this year. He will get a couple of big plays and ride it out.

Manning hasn’t topped 300 yards passing in his last three games versus the Ravens.

While Denver put up 34 points on the Ravens in their last meeting, Manning had his lowest passing game of the season. He threw for 204 yards and completed 17 of 28 passes.

In 2009, Manning threw for 299 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions in the regular season. In a playoff meeting later that season, he completed 30 of 44 passes for 246 yards, two touchdowns and one interception.

The computer has also had issues “freezing” up.

During his postseason career, Manning has performed far better in the confines of a dome (which he saw often in Indianapolis) or in warm weather.

Manning is 3-6 in nine career postseason road games. He threw eight touchdowns to 11 interceptions. In cold weather playoff games on the road (New England twice, New York Jets, Baltimore, Kansas City), Manning is 2-3 with four touchdowns and nine interceptions. He posted a combined 60.6 quarterback rating in those games.

He wins, but he's not destroying them like you're making it sound. Even when they won handily, he still had his worst game passing which means his teammates (see the running game) won the game.

Especially with tomorrow's forecast. 20 degrees and dropping at game time

There's a 1 in 10 chance it snows. How crazy would that be?

 

[AMDZen]

What is the deal with everyone talking about the weather like Manning can't play in it? All the Baltimoron's won't shut up about it. I can't wait until they are obliterated tomorrow. It simply can't come soon enough.

I'm in such a great mood, nothing can bring me down bitches.

 

[AMDZen]

BTW, Manning didn't do much because he didn't need to do much. We ran the ball like around 55 times. I am not going to bother looking up the numbers but I'm sure we ran for 200+ yards because I remember Moreno only had 20-22 carries for 120 yards and he didn't even play the 4th QTR, Lance Ball and Hillman probably racked up another 100 yards in their 30 carries.

Manning won't need to do shit tomorrow either because Moreno will torch them. Vick Ballard runs for 152 yards and averages 5.1 and you see anything less from Moreno? And Vick Ballard had close to, if not 100% of the carries last week, Lance Ball will come in and torch them for 100 more after Moreno does.

EDIT: Fuck it, looked it up

 	CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LG
K. Moreno	21	115	5.5	1	20
R. Hillman	15	32	2.1	0	8
J. Hester	7	20	2.9	1	7

OK so only 163 yards as Hillman didn't do as much as I thought, but if Moreno still averages 5.5 ypc again in this game, they are toast

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Um, Manning doesn't exactly have his best games against B.More. He may win, but it's not like he's destroying them and that even includes this year. He will get a couple of big plays and ride it out.



He wins, but he's not destroying them like you're making it sound. Even when they won handily, he still had his worst game passing which means his teammates (see the running game) won the game.

Especially with tomorrow's forecast. 20 degrees and dropping at game time

There's a 1 in 10 chance it snows. How crazy would that be?

His career QB rating against the Ravens is 96 (here; a couple games seem to be missing, however). My point is, they don't scare him or even successfully disrupt him.

A big (and humorous) component of Colts vs. Ravens was the annual episode of "Watch Freeney humiliate and terrorize Johnathan Odgen." I miss those days!

 

[purbeast0]

What is the deal with everyone talking about the weather like Manning can't play in it? All the Baltimoron's won't shut up about it. I can't wait until they are obliterated tomorrow. It simply can't come soon enough.

I'm in such a great mood, nothing can bring me down bitches.

they are referring to his 9-10 record in post season.

 

[preslove]

BTW, Manning didn't do much because he didn't need to do much. We ran the ball like around 55 times. I am not going to bother looking up the numbers but I'm sure we ran for 200+ yards because I remember Moreno only had 20-22 carries for 120 yards and he didn't even play the 4th QTR, Lance Ball and Hillman probably racked up another 100 yards in their 30 carries.

Manning won't need to do shit tomorrow either because Moreno will torch them. Vick Ballard runs for 152 yards and averages 5.1 and you see anything less from Moreno? And Vick Ballard had close to, if not 100% of the carries last week, Lance Ball will come in and torch them for 100 more after Moreno does.

EDIT: Fuck it, looked it up

 	CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LG
K. Moreno	21	115	5.5	1	20
R. Hillman	15	32	2.1	0	8
J. Hester	7	20	2.9	1	7

OK so only 163 yards as Hillman didn't do as much as I thought, but if Moreno still averages 5.5 ypc again in this game, they are toast

Then, If Baltimore stops the run this will be a different game, and making predictions based on the last one is foolish. Hopefully, Manning can play well in terrible January weather. Not saying that B will do it, but stranger things have happened.

 

[techs]

Ya know, Manning could just sleep on the edge of his pillow and sit it out with a neck crick.

 

[SP33Demon]

His career QB rating against the Ravens is 96 (here; a couple games seem to be missing, however). My point is, they don't scare him or even successfully disrupt him.

A big (and humorous) component of Colts vs. Ravens was the annual episode of "Watch Freeney humiliate and terrorize Johnathan Odgen." I miss those days!

You're just clearly acting like a Homer at this point. Manning had his worst game of the season @Baltimore, yet they didn't "successfully disrupt him" (and that was without a bunch of starters)? Take his jockstrap off your head because it's clearly cutting off oxygen to your brain.

Baltimore can clearly disrupt Manning and force Denver's ground game to put up or shut up. Lucky for Denver, it came through for them last time. Unlucky for them, it was against a hollow shell of the defense that they'll play tomorrow.

 

[purbeast0]

You're just clearly acting like a Homer at this point. Manning had his worst game of the season @Baltimore, yet they didn't "successfully disrupt him" (and that was without a bunch of starters)? Take his jockstrap off your head because it's clearly cutting off oxygen to your brain.

Baltimore can clearly disrupt Manning and force Denver's ground game to put up or shut up. Lucky for Denver, it came through for them last time. Unlucky for them, it was against a hollow shell of the defense that they'll play tomorrow.

did you even watch the ravens/broncos game this year? the broncos beat the SHIT ouf of them. it was 31-3 at one point. it was not even a game. all but 3 of the ravens points were in garbage time.

 

[AMDZen]

did you even watch the ravens/broncos game this year? the broncos beat the SHIT ouf of them. it was 31-3 at one point. it was not even a game. all but 3 of the ravens points were in garbage time.

31-3 through 3 qtr's.

Starters were pulled in the Forth qtr even. Brock Osweiler saw his first action all year and Manning sat most if not all of the 4th, Moreno sat as did Demarius Thomas, Champ Bailey and others. Brock even drove us down for 3 points.

Played zone all 4th QTR and allowed two TD passes to Dennis Pitta, the first of which was an outstanding play by him, congrats. The second our D literrally watched as he sauntered into the end zone as the game was over, whatevz.

Baltimorons don't get it, but they will tomorrow

 

[SP33Demon]

did you even watch the ravens/broncos game this year? the broncos beat the SHIT ouf of them. it was 31-3 at one point. it was not even a game. all but 3 of the ravens points were in garbage time.

Yes, the ground game set up the rout. Not Manning, he didn't win the game for them. 40% of his passes were not completed. Baltimore forced them to run and they executed. The fact is that the Ravens still neutralized him into his worst game of the season, even if routed by the ground game as a result.

 

[ichy]

His career QB rating against the Ravens is 96 (here; a couple games seem to be missing, however). My point is, they don't scare him or even successfully disrupt him.

A big (and humorous) component of Colts vs. Ravens was the annual episode of "Watch Freeney humiliate and terrorize Johnathan Odgen." I miss those days!

I hate to say this but Manning's career performance against the Ravens is irrelevant. Their defense this year is a shadow of its former self. If the Ravens have a chance it's going to be because Flacco steps up and does better than average and Ray Rice has one of his better games.

 

[AMDZen]

Ed Reed best be ready

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw1MGiL0dk0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[AMDZen]

For those of you that didn't see the game since there are clearly many of you, here are all the relevant plays broke down into 4 mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2XNsvtZRoQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[AMDZen]

They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Someone needs to tell the Baltimorons this. ICF and a few others get it. Results tomorrow will be the same as they always are when Manning sees the Ravens.


Woooooo. I am pumped bitches

 

[purbeast0]

Yes, the ground game set up the rout. Not Manning, he didn't win the game for them. 40% of his passes were not completed. Baltimore forced them to run and they executed. The fact is that the Ravens still neutralized him into his worst game of the season, even if routed by the ground game as a result.

wow are you serious? so because he didn't throw for 400 yards with 5 td's he had a bad game?

so because he went 17/28 with 204 yds and 1td/0ints you consider that bad?

a qb is also a leader. they do a lot more than just pass the ball for statistics. he leads the team to victory. not to mention, 1 of the rushing tds was an audible that peyton called at the line of scrimmage after he saw the defense.

oh man, what a "worst" game to have leading your team to a 34-17 victory when 14 of the defenses points were in garbage time.

can't even really take your football talk serious anymore.

 

[purbeast0]

They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Someone needs to tell the Baltimorons this. ICF and a few others get it. Results tomorrow will be the same as they always are when Manning sees the Ravens.


Woooooo. I am pumped bitches

dude i wouldn't get too pumped. i was there last weekend and even after the first quarter when the skins were smashing the seahawks i was on the highest of highs. and 2 hours later it was the lowest of lows. it still is bothering me and it is 5 days later lol.

just saying, be careful because you never know.