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thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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You just don't get it. The Broncos aren't even close to the same team as they were in week 3 and 5 during those 2 losses. The team they are now would manhandle that team.

Manning has gotten stronger and more chemistry with his WR's every week. Our WR's have gotten better with every week of having him coach them. Our defense has completely transformed.

You just don't get it. But if you think our team hasn't evolved over the course of this season, with every single part of the team being better then it was. With the possible exception of McGahee who has been effectively replaced by Knowshon at this point, then you don't know a thing about football.

The Broncos have beaten 3 teams who currently hold a winning record, Steelers, Bengals, Ravens. Falcons have beaten 4, Dallas, Redskins, Giants, Broncos.

Simple fact, Falcons are the better team here. More wins over strong teams, including the head to head. Broncos are playing well. Falcons just did something no one thought was possible, shut out a Manning.
 

Gigantopithecus

Diamond Member
Dec 14, 2004
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Just a few thoughts after this past weekend's games:

- As a Lions fan, I think it's time for Schwartz to go. Last year should not have been an anomaly. This team had a very real chance to beat Minnesota once, Green Bay twice, Chicago, Houston, and Indianapolis but came up just short every time. Every game we've been killed by bad coaching, especially in terms of boneheaded penalties and bad game management. Stafford is one of the league's best QBs, Johnson is the league's best WR, and our defense is at least playoff caliber. All we needed this year was an average ground game and discipline, and Schwartz couldn't get either of those pieces.

- SF fans have to be thrilled with their team. If they don't make a deep run this year, they will soon. They have all the pieces and their pieces are all young and appear to not be injury-prone. Kaepernick is the reason I go out of my way to watch SF games.

- Indy fans have to be thrilled with their team. Luck is astonishingly good. With a 1,000 yard rusher and more experience under Luck's belt (can you even imagine if Luck threw half as many picks as he did?), Indy will be going to the playoffs every year for a long time. They need a better D to make deep runs in the postseason, though. Too many old, past their prime guys on D are taking up salary space. Pagano is a helluva coach, too, so hopefully he wins his off the field fight.

- Denver has two, maybe three more years to get back to the Super Bowl if they don't make it this year. If this is what they're doing with Manning having just joined the team, they will be scary good as long as he's there (two or three more years). Manning is CBPOY, regardless of AP's performance. One thing I don't think gets consideration in that debate is the fact that Manning is old - AP is nearly a decade younger. AP's recovery is incredibly impressive but no one can escape Father Time, except apparently Peyton Manning.

- Cousins is too good to be riding the pine behind RG3. I hope he's starting somewhere next year. That said, RG3 is going to need a good backup - he is not a big guy and can't keep taking big hits. He is really lucky he tweaked his knee rather than blowing it out entirely. Hopefully Washington will get him a better secondary so he doesn't have to take so many risky runs downfield. He's a better passer than runner anyway, and Morris is a good to great RB, so RG3's legs just need to keep defenses honest - they don't need to win games.

- As a Badger, I was telling people last year that Wilson was too smart to be backing someone up. His football IQ and work ethic are off the charts. Seattle is a dangerous team this year, and will be for years to come. Wilson gets my nod for RoY. Why? Because RG3 got hurt and Luck makes too many mistakes. Wilson wasn't even supposed to be a starter.

- I will be surprised to see either Vick or Tebow on rosters next year.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
Apr 15, 2004
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The Broncos have beaten 3 teams who currently hold a winning record, Steelers, Bengals, Ravens. Falcons have beaten 4, Dallas, Redskins, Giants, Broncos.

Simple fact, Falcons are the better team here. More wins over strong teams, including the head to head. Broncos are playing well. Falcons just did something no one thought was possible, shut out a Manning.

Buwahahahahahahahaha

You are funny. Thanks for that.

Needed a good laugh today.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,820
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Don't care.

Yea, I think Copper nickles has wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more upside then Alex Smith, but that should be completely and utterly obvious to anyone who actually knows football and has watched them both play. Harbaugh has just been using him as a stop gap until something better came along, and rightfully so.

And all that said and done I couldn't care less what the 49ers are doing. You say "like Kaepershit" as if I'm a 49er fan and my opinion matters

FYI, you would have lost both of those even with your butt buddy Alex Smith

kapershit is the exact same QB as RG3, running a nearly identical type of offense. kaepershit shattered RG3s passing/running numbers in college--yet you declare RG3 a loser with no upside.

you make absolutely no fucking sense half the time.


you also still seem to think I'm a 49ers fan for some silly reason.

at least the absence of Elway's corpse penis from my asshole has allowed me the clarity to think more rationally about football, in general.
 
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The_Dude8

Diamond Member
Jan 8, 2000
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Just a few thoughts after this past weekend's games:

- As a Lions fan, I think it's time for Schwartz to go. Last year should not have been an anomaly. This team had a very real chance to beat Minnesota once, Green Bay twice, Chicago, Houston, and Indianapolis but came up just short every time. Every game we've been killed by bad coaching, especially in terms of boneheaded penalties and bad game management. Stafford is one of the league's best QBs, Johnson is the league's best WR, and our defense is at least playoff caliber. All we needed this year was an average ground game and discipline, and Schwartz couldn't get either of those pieces.

- SF fans have to be thrilled with their team. If they don't make a deep run this year, they will soon. They have all the pieces and their pieces are all young and appear to not be injury-prone. Kaepernick is the reason I go out of my way to watch SF games.

- Indy fans have to be thrilled with their team. Luck is astonishingly good. With a 1,000 yard rusher and more experience under Luck's belt (can you even imagine if Luck threw half as many picks as he did?), Indy will be going to the playoffs every year for a long time. They need a better D to make deep runs in the postseason, though. Too many old, past their prime guys on D are taking up salary space. Pagano is a helluva coach, too, so hopefully he wins his off the field fight.

- Denver has two, maybe three more years to get back to the Super Bowl if they don't make it this year. If this is what they're doing with Manning having just joined the team, they will be scary good as long as he's there (two or three more years). Manning is CBPOY, regardless of AP's performance. One thing I don't think gets consideration in that debate is the fact that Manning is old - AP is nearly a decade younger. AP's recovery is incredibly impressive but no one can escape Father Time, except apparently Peyton Manning.

- Cousins is too good to be riding the pine behind RG3. I hope he's starting somewhere next year. That said, RG3 is going to need a good backup - he is not a big guy and can't keep taking big hits. He is really lucky he tweaked his knee rather than blowing it out entirely. Hopefully Washington will get him a better secondary so he doesn't have to take so many risky runs downfield. He's a better passer than runner anyway, and Morris is a good to great RB, so RG3's legs just need to keep defenses honest - they don't need to win games.

- As a Badger, I was telling people last year that Wilson was too smart to be backing someone up. His football IQ and work ethic are off the charts. Seattle is a dangerous team this year, and will be for years to come. Wilson gets my nod for RoY. Why? Because RG3 got hurt and Luck makes too many mistakes. Wilson wasn't even supposed to be a starter.

- I will be surprised to see either Vick or Tebow on rosters next year.

i think cousins is like other matt cassel/matt flynn, great backup, but not a starter, if the redskins are smart, they will keep cousins as a backup to RG3, since RG3 does not last one whole season w/o injuries.
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Cincinnati at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NFL
SUN, DEC 16
NY Giants at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
Minnesota at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
Jacksonville at Miami 1:00 PM CBS
Green Bay at Chicago 1:00 PM FOX
Washington at Cleveland 1:00 PM FOX
Denver at Baltimore 1:00 PM CBS
Indianapolis at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Tampa Bay at New Orleans 1:00 PM FOX
Detroit at Arizona 4:05 PM FOX
Carolina at San Diego 4:05 PM FOX
Seattle at Buffalo 4:05 PM FOX
Pittsburgh at Dallas 4:25 PM CBS
Kansas City at Oakland 4:25 PM CBS
San Francisco at New England 8:20 PM NBC
MON, DEC 17
NY Jets at Tennessee 8:30 PM
BTW AMDZen i forgot to thank you again for picking against the skins again this week. please keep up the good work!!! :thumbsup:
 
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