OFFICIAL 2012 NFL week 15 thread

[IndyColtsFan]

The Lions have 9 losses so they can't knock out the Bears.

I beg to differ. I know the Lions can't make the playoffs themselves, but they most certainly can still knock the Bears out of the playoffs by beating them. The Bears would be 9-7 and the Seahawks, Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants could all be ahead of them (and maybe the Vikings too).

 

[Mixolydian]

I wonder if Lovie survives if the Lions knock them out of the playoffs, which I think is very possible.

As long as Bears fans keep buying tickets and the team makes money, he ain't going anywhere.

 

[Adrenaline]

I beg to differ. I know the Lions can't make the playoffs themselves, but they most certainly can still knock the Bears out of the playoffs by beating them. The Bears would be 9-7 and the Seahawks, Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants could all be ahead of them (and maybe the Vikings too).

That way, they can be knocked out. The Vikings are ahead of them now I believe.

 

[Arkaign]

The Falcons will eventually win a playoff game, but they won't win the NFC this year. I'd put 3, maybe 4, teams ahead of them.

The NFC is horrible this year. Today's Falcons are as good as I've seen (even though most of that game goes to the Giants being garbage rather than the Falcons being that great). I think you're insane to put 3-4 teams from the NFC over them, although I could see maybe 4-5 teams at least from the AFC that are hands-down superior.

 

[dbk]

Skins!! HTTR!

 

[BUTCH1]

Very well said. You can't depend on your defense for all your scoring.

I heard on ESPN that Balt fired their O coordinator (Cam Cameron) this week, with Suggs dinged up again Lewis still out their D is not the force it once was..

 

[IndyColtsFan]

That way, they can be knocked out. The Vikings are ahead of them now I believe.

I think the Lions will beat them. I could be wrong, but I bet it happens.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I heard on ESPN that Balt fired their O coordinator (Cam Cameron) this week, with Suggs dinged up again Lewis still out their D is not the force it once was..

Yes, and guess who Baltimore named as their new OC? Jim Freaking Caldwell, formerly of my Colts.

 

[Soccerman06]

212 yards for ap today

 

[Ricochet]

2 TD for R.Wilson. Great start for Seahorses.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The NFC is horrible this year. Today's Falcons are as good as I've seen (even though most of that game goes to the Giants being garbage rather than the Falcons being that great). I think you're insane to put 3-4 teams from the NFC over them, although I could see maybe 4-5 teams at least from the AFC that are hands-down superior.

Ironically, the team that can probably best handle them won't even make the playoffs (New Orleans). Otherwise, I'd definitely put San Francisco and Green Bay ahead of them and someone like Seattle on par.

 

[Meghan54]

The NFC is horrible this year. Today's Falcons are as good as I've seen (even though most of that game goes to the Giants being garbage rather than the Falcons being that great).

So, it's the Giants playing poorly that lost the game instead of the Falcons playing near their full potential? Sheesh....the Falcons can't catch a break anywhere, from anyone.


I've been suffering with the Falcons since 1966. Why can't anyone give them some due this year? Everyone's derided the Falcons' record because they hadn't beaten anyone that's a contender. Then the Giants, one of the "best" in the NFC gets shut out by the Falcons and it's because the Giants lost the game, not that the Falcons outplayed, out coached, and just plain kicked the Giants' butt up and down the field.

*Sigh* Guess I'll have to suffer in isolation up here in MA....and hold my breath that the Falcons actually deliver up to their potential this year. The Falcons have never had such a stacked team talent-wise like this year's team, and I think this win over the Giants just showed what the Falcons may be able to do...finally.

 

[BUTCH1]

I wouldn't worry, I'd be shocked if Houston lasts long in the playoffs. The Colts shot themselves in the foot too many times and should've won, which tells me Houston is weaker than I thought.

Houston IS weaker we all thought, Schaub missed a lot of open people in the loss vs the Pat's and the secondary has some issues as well. I'm thinking the AFC title game will be Denver/NE, just look at the numbers from today's game IN Balt., TOP was 38/21, if you give a QB like Manning a running game worth 150+yds he will KILL you with play-action (as will Brady). Tonight's game will be interesting as the 49'ers are a much more complete defense for the Pat's to solve then Houston's was...

 

[Arkaign]

So, it's the Giants playing poorly that lost the game instead of the Falcons playing near their full potential? Sheesh....the Falcons can't catch a break anywhere, from anyone.


I've been suffering with the Falcons since 1966. Why can't anyone give them some due this year? Everyone's derided the Falcons' record because they hadn't beaten anyone that's a contender. Then the Giants, one of the "best" in the NFC gets shut out by the Falcons and it's because the Giants lost the game, not that the Falcons outplayed, out coached, and just plain kicked the Giants' butt up and down the field.

*Sigh* Guess I'll have to suffer in isolation up here in MA....and hold my breath that the Falcons actually deliver up to their potential this year. The Falcons have never had such a stacked team talent-wise like this year's team, and I think this win over the Giants just showed what the Falcons may be able to do...finally.

Don't take it the wrong way, I think the Falcons may be somewhat underrated. But the game I saw today was just embarassingly poorly played by the Giants at every level. It wouldn't have even been a shutout had it not been for insanely poor coaching by the Giants. They gave away two field goals by trying to go for it on 4th down in chip shot range. The first one would have made it a two-score game going into the half, which is a big deal. Then you have just horrible play calling on offense and defense, horrible pass decisions by Eli, just terrible from A to Z.

And yes, I think the Falcons are the best NFC team I've seen this year. I wouldn't bet on them vs. a healthy RG3 Skins team though. But I think they'd have an advantage over my hometown Cowboys (should they stumble lost into the playoffs somehow).

The Giants absolutely do not deserve a playoff berth. They are incompetent.

 

[Adrenaline]

212 yards for ap today

24 carries for an 8.8 average

 

[IAteYourMother]

The NFC is horrible this year. Today's Falcons are as good as I've seen (even though most of that game goes to the Giants being garbage rather than the Falcons being that great). I think you're insane to put 3-4 teams from the NFC over them, although I could see maybe 4-5 teams at least from the AFC that are hands-down superior.

Really? The NFC blows the AFC out of the water. New England is definitely in a class by itself, but from top to bottom the NFC is definitely the superior conference.

 

[KentState]

So, it's the Giants playing poorly that lost the game instead of the Falcons playing near their full potential? Sheesh....the Falcons can't catch a break anywhere, from anyone.


I've been suffering with the Falcons since 1966. Why can't anyone give them some due this year? Everyone's derided the Falcons' record because they hadn't beaten anyone that's a contender. Then the Giants, one of the "best" in the NFC gets shut out by the Falcons and it's because the Giants lost the game, not that the Falcons outplayed, out coached, and just plain kicked the Giants' butt up and down the field.

*Sigh* Guess I'll have to suffer in isolation up here in MA....and hold my breath that the Falcons actually deliver up to their potential this year. The Falcons have never had such a stacked team talent-wise like this year's team, and I think this win over the Giants just showed what the Falcons may be able to do...finally.

The problem is that the playoffs are a completely different season. Looks at how teams like GB, NYG, or Pittsburg stumble in and then roll over everyone. On the flip side, you have darlings like Indy that can't seal the deal. The Falcons biggest problem is keeping focus for an entire game and the playoffs have been the same way. Hopefully having a week off this year won't completely destroy their focus.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Really? The NFC blows the AFC out of the water. New England is definitely in a class by itself, but from top to bottom the NFC is definitely the superior conference.

I think Denver is probably New England's equal. I'd give NE a slight edge on offense and Denver a larger edge on defense.

Otherwise, top-to-bottom as a conference, I agree.

 

[techs]

Congratulations to Adrian Peterson for winning the MVP.

 

[Meghan54]

The Giants absolutely do not deserve a playoff berth. They are incompetent.

That's something we both can agree upon.

It's amazing, though, that a team that was essentially gutted in 2007 (Vick going to jail and Patrino, that scum bucket, quitting like he did during the 2007 season) has managed to rebuild itself in 4 years into what appears to be a SB contender.

And while the Falcons have lost in the first round under Smith and Ryan the last three years they made the playoffs, remember that the Falcons lost to the NFC Champion in 2008 and the eventual SB champion in 2010 and 2011. Doubt many other teams would have done any better then.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Congratulations to Adrian Peterson for winning the MVP.

If he sets the single-season record and carries the Vikings into the playoffs, I think he has to win it. Incredible performance and just think, against my Colts, he only had a few yards (played sparingly) or he'd shatter the record.

 

[techs]

Congratulations to Adrian Peterson for winning the MVP.

If he sets the single-season record and carries the Vikings into the playoffs, I think he has to win it. Incredible performance and just think, against my Colts, he only had a few yards (played sparingly) or he'd shatter the record.

Just by coming within 204 yards of the record I think he has to win it, even if he doesn't break the record in the next two games.

 

[Meghan54]

Congratulations to Adrian Peterson for winning the MVP.

How about comeback player of the year, to boot?

 

[Pocatello]

The Toronto Bills are bad, or the Seattle Seahawks are really good. I thought the Bills upgraded their defense with Mario Williams

 

[techs]

How about comeback player of the year, to boot?

Meh. They have to leave something for Manning to win.