Official 2013-2014 NBA Playoffs Thread

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Miramonti

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It is just one game, but I have been wondering all year long if Miami had been over resting Wade so he could just explode the playoffs. If so, credit Lebron for really shouldering the load for 82 games to allow Wade that kind of rest. Wade at 100% with Lebron makes the Heat into the unstoppable force they were during their 28 (is that right?) game winning streak last year.

Imo miami's quest for a 3-peat cost Lebron another mvp award. I think the plan all along was to be extremely conservative with wade so he can be fresh and healthy (as much as possible) for the playoffs. James knew he would be without wade for many games (and fewer minutes when playing) that he paced himsef from the outset. I think it was altogether miami's strategy and wise on both counts.
 

dougp

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Imo miami's quest for a 3-peat cost Lebron another mvp award. I think the plan all along was to be extremely conservative with wade so he can be fresh and healthy (as much as possible) for the playoffs. James knew he would be without wade for many games (and fewer minutes when playing) that he paced himsef from the outset. I think it was altogether miami's strategy and wise on both counts.

I think it depends how Miami plays the rest of this series. The Bobnets really shouldn't be "in" the series, yet they held the lead for a pretty significant amount of time yesterday. Miami can't wait until round 2 to turn it on, if they haven't already. The Nets might have the answer for them, and are a dangerous team.

I still don't see how there wasn't a single foul called against Jefferson yesterday. Despite the Bobnets having more points in the paint/rebounds, the free throw disparity is huge.
 

DesiPower

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Nice playoff weekend, lot of upsets, many home teams lost,
Houston was a real shocker.
Pacers kind of lost it towards the end regular season so I was not surprised.
LAC and GSW are pretty well matched team so it could have gone either way...
OKC and Heats play with 8 people on the court so no wonder they won...

Spurs also kind of slowed down towards the end of regular season and it showed yesterday.. it was a close game for a long time, it shouldn't have been. I think spurs will loose to Houston or Portland.
 

DesiPower

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Imo miami's quest for a 3-peat cost Lebron another mvp award. I think the plan all along was to be extremely conservative with wade so he can be fresh and healthy (as much as possible) for the playoffs. James knew he would be without wade for many games (and fewer minutes when playing) that he paced himsef from the outset. I think it was altogether miami's strategy and wise on both counts.

I think they dont need to worry, Miami has David and rest of his team working for them, did you see yesterday's game? anybody who some near Lebron or other top players, get an automatic foul. They will be handed the Eastern finals anyways, the NBA finals will be tough for David to decide, Lebron or Durant... who pleases him better...
 

darkewaffle

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Man every time the Rockets were up by ~10 (like three times?) I thought they were finally going to pull away with the game, credit Portland for not backing down and stealing at least one game in Houston.

I hope the remaining Clipper/Warrior games go a bit smoother, having Griffin and Iggy sitting for so much time takes away from the game for both teams.
 

dougp

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Nice playoff weekend, lot of upsets, many home teams lost,
Houston was a real shocker.
Pacers kind of lost it towards the end regular season so I was not surprised.
LAC and GSW are pretty well matched team so it could have gone either way...
OKC and Heats play with 8 people on the court so no wonder they won...

Spurs also kind of slowed down towards the end of regular season and it showed yesterday.. it was a close game for a long time, it shouldn't have been. I think spurs will loose to Houston or Portland.

I doubt the Spurs lose in the next round. There's a reason that Pop wanted to lose before the playoffs started - teams tend to sputter for a few games after that loss. Given the Rockets/Lakers games last week, and the amount of people who sat, I'd say they'll get back to form by the end of the series. Portland/Rockets series could go 6-7 games and their lack of depth will make the next series very hard for either team, especially if Beverley is out and the Rockets still progress.

I think they dont need to worry, Miami has David and rest of his team working for them, did you see yesterday's game? anybody who some near Lebron or other top players, get an automatic foul. They will be handed the Eastern finals anyways, the NBA finals will be tough for David to decide, Lebron or Durant... who pleases him better...

You know David Stern left the league, right?
 

preslove

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SA and OKC both got better matchups. I don't see an upset happening against either of them now. Scottie Brooks won't look like a moron playing Perkins big minutes against Memphis and OKC won't get ousted early, leaving him as coach. If they got a round one bounce at the hand of the Mavs (pretty likely) Brooks would be gone. Now Brooks will stay and Durant will be much more likely to leave at the end of his contract. At least if he is smart.

Jalen Rose had an interesting prediction. He said that he thinks Durant will go to Houston to play with his friend, James Harden. Harden, Durant and Howard is a championship level top 3.
 

purbeast0

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i was really happy to see the way the wizards played for the most part. when they started to get down by a big margin at the start of the 3rd period, it started to look like their body language was starting to look like they were frustrated and getting upset. but they held their composure and came back and pulled out a great W in chicago and have now taken the home court advantage away from the bulls.

also, the officiating was pretty horrible in the bulls/wiz game. the bulls got a shitload of homecourt calls.
 
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manly

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Jalen Rose had an interesting prediction. He said that he thinks Durant will go to Houston to play with his friend, James Harden. Harden, Durant and Howard is a championship level top 3.
Jalen should understand the ramifications of the salary cap before making wild 2016 predictions. Generally speaking, unless the cap increases 20% YoY to clear cap space, the only way Houston gets KD is by trading some big contract to OKC for him. Or unless KD plays for 50 cents on the dollar.

Mike Woodson sealed his fate when he said he wouldn't even talk to Phil. I was never that big on him in the first place; the Knicks arguably overachieved last season creating huge expectations. And clearly underachieved this season; there's little doubt to me that he "lost his team."
 
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That was an unexpected opening weekend. 5 road teams winning Game 1? Unprecedented. The Blazers/Rockets was absurdly good, outside of bogus calls both ways that led to some key ejections (Aldridge and Howard). My buddy wanted me to turn it off as soon as they started "Hack-a-Dwight" with 4 minutes left, but I convinced him we should keep watching... totally worth it (even though we were 40 minutes late to the start of Game of Thrones and had to watch it on HBO GO with some nasty compression artifacts). Aldridge and Lillard went absolutely ludicrous in that game; was great to watch. Go Blazers!
 

preslove

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Jalen should understand the ramifications of the salary cap before making wild 2016 predictions. Generally speaking, unless the cap increases 20% YoY to clear cap space, the only way Houston gets KD is by trading some big contract to OKC for him. Or unless KD plays for 50 cents on the dollar.

Mike Woodson sealed his fate when he said he wouldn't even talk to Phil. I was never that big on him in the first place; the Knicks arguably overachieved last season creating huge expectations. And clearly underachieved this season; there's little doubt to me that he "lost his team."

There's going to be a new collective bargaining agreement soon and people are expecting the salary cap to rise.
 

manly

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20-21 unless one side opts out in 16-17, which would be doubtful. Source: http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q9

Though, they do expect the cap to go up by about $5mm next year.
my point to preslove stands, does Jalen think KD will play for $10M per year? I have a buddy who's a die-hard Lakers fan and he thinks the exact same way, that the Lakers can flip a switch and rebuild within 2 years*. What Jerry West could do in 1995 is no longer an option due to the punitive repeater taxes (unless you're Mikhail Prokhorov and you just don't give a fuck and delusionally think you can buy a title).

Speaking of the CBA, why wouldn't the players opt out in 2017? They got hammered last go-around and while I don't think the current 50/50 split is unfair, it's a matter of perception as franchise values skyrocket. If the 2-time defending champs have a nearly untenable luxury tax situation as their "Big-3" contracts escalate next season, something's gotta give. Under the current CBA, even if Micky Arison has a change of heart and eats big tax payments going forward, LeBron will still be grossly underpaid relative to his true value.

* That's built on the assumption that other guys want to come play with Kobe, which is highly debatable these days.
 

dbk

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Wow what a game.. I give the Grizzlies a lot of credit for hanging on.. every time OKC did something crazy, they came right back and responded.. This is going to be a tough serious for OKC if they can't control Randolph in the paint. Sometimes I feel like OKC relies too much on their jumpers.. if they don't fall (like tonight) and their fastbreaks are limited.. Memphis can grind it out, not sure if OKC is built that way.

whew

 

UncleWai

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The grizzlies coach, mike conley and all the refs were trying to win the game for OKC, but z-bo and mikr miller shut them down.
 

HendrixFan

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my point to preslove stands, does Jalen think KD will play for $10M per year?

The Rockets will clear around $15M by losing Asik and Lin, whose contracts will be up before Durant is a FA. The CBA determines the salary cap based on revenue, which is why they are projecting a $5M increase for this coming season. Those three things would allow the Rockets to afford KD right now.

The current TV deal runs through 2016 and they are looking at a huge increase with the new deal. Fox is said to be looking to throw tons of money to get in on the NBA action but TNT won't give it up easily. That new deal also coincides with the end of Durant's current contract.
 

dougp

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The Rockets will clear around $15M by losing Asik and Lin, whose contracts will be up before Durant is a FA. The CBA determines the salary cap based on revenue, which is why they are projecting a $5M increase for this coming season. Those three things would allow the Rockets to afford KD right now.

The current TV deal runs through 2016 and they are looking at a huge increase with the new deal. Fox is said to be looking to throw tons of money to get in on the NBA action but TNT won't give it up easily. That new deal also coincides with the end of Durant's current contract.

That would be a lot of money tied up between those 3 players, assuming KD looks to make the same as Howard.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm

Almost $60mm between those 3 if KD takes something like $20mm/year. Having lived here for the past 10 years, I don't see the Rockets doing something like that. I think a lot will depend on what happens with Miami, since they'll have to seriously go over the cap in order to fill out their bench.
 

DesiPower

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Just read on the internet that the Thunders fell to the Grizzles last night... what happened there? the officials were sleeping? I hope none of them loose their job...
 

HendrixFan

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That would be a lot of money tied up between those 3 players, assuming KD looks to make the same as Howard.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm

Almost $60mm between those 3 if KD takes something like $20mm/year. Having lived here for the past 10 years, I don't see the Rockets doing something like that. I think a lot will depend on what happens with Miami, since they'll have to seriously go over the cap in order to fill out their bench.

The Rockets have been great at filling out their roster with usable guys dirt cheap. Team salaries should be top heavy as only a select few guys make such a difference to the team and draw fans. Howard has a player option after 2016, so he could be convinced to sign a long term contract for less money per year but more overall if it means playing with Durant and Harden.

Honestly it isn't too different than what OKC is currently paying Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and a useless Perkins.
 

Red Storm

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Just read on the internet that the Thunders fell to the Grizzles last night... what happened there? the officials were sleeping? I hope none of them loose their job...

Westbrook was too greedy, instead of feeding Durant more he decided to take a lot of bad, quick shots. Kevin Durant is the best scorer in the NBA, Westbrook needs to realize that more often and stop hogging the ball. Meanwhile Z-Bo and Gasol did a hell of a job.
 

dougp

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The Rockets have been great at filling out their roster with usable guys dirt cheap. Team salaries should be top heavy as only a select few guys make such a difference to the team and draw fans. Howard has a player option after 2016, so he could be convinced to sign a long term contract for less money per year but more overall if it means playing with Durant and Harden.

Honestly it isn't too different than what OKC is currently paying Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and a useless Perkins.

Eh, I don't agree. Like I said, having lived here, they will go with what makes money vs. winning. If that means Durant coming, great, but if there's another prospect that will net them more money vs. wins, they'll do it.

I don't see KD leaving OKC, but hey, more power to him coming to Houston if he wants. It'll be amusing watching those 3 try to share the ball.
 

Miramonti

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Just read on the internet that the Thunders fell to the Grizzles last night... what happened there? the officials were sleeping? I hope none of them loose their job...

The Griz simply outplayed them, especially in the paint. That and KD couldn't make enough shots to compensate for Westbrook's inability to run an offense or make his poorly-timed 3 pointers.
 

purbeast0

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i don't watch much regular season basketball, but holy shit what the fuck is up with the officiating in the bulls/wizards game? it was terrible on sunday, and it's even worse tonight. are homecourt calls this awful during the regular season? it's just laughable how one sided this game is being called, and the wizards have been leading the entire game. this is embarassing.
 
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