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T2urtle

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I tried to go for Tre Mason also with a waiver 6. No dice. Ended up getting Darren McFadden
I ended up grabbing cadet whatshisface from the saints. I'm pretty strong at rb with forte/Ellington but need a backup just in case.
 

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Of those Hilton no question. He's been hitting home runs lately.

I don't know if Baldwins value goes up or down with Harvin being gone.
 

SP33Demon

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So I had waiver 5 and figured I would get tre mason or Baldwin. Burn... I didn't want anyone else.

Now I'm wavier #2.

But zac Stacy got dropped, might grab him off FA. U think he is worth it? Now that I don't have tre, I want to believe Stacy won't go quietly... I would waste my wavier pick but I can easily drop cousins for Stacy.(what I wanted to do for tre, Baldwin)

I'd go Bryce Brown over Stacy. At least you know Brown will get touches and has a chance to split carries with FJax when he's back, i.e. in Spiller's role. The downside is that he has a tough run D schedule for 3 of the next 4 games (Jets twice) and the Bills have a pretty bad Run Blocking line. I pondered dropping J.Hill for him but Cincy's rushing schedule is good after this week (Baltimore) behind a better line.

Tre Mason, I put in a waiver for him since I don't have much of a 2nd RB but didn't get him either. I just wanted him for his week's matchup vs KC, his schedule is tough from weeks 9-11 (9ers/Cards/Broncos) so he wouldn't be of much value anyway until week 12.

Picked up Cadet since P.Thomas is hurt, I think he's a decent sleeper vs GB. He and P.Thomas combined for over half of NO's snaps last game. With a good shot that Aaron Rodgers slices up NO's secondary, I think Cadet will be in a lot more than Ingram/Khiry due to more passing game.

One interesting thing to note is that I would think about selling high on Cleveland backs like Ben Tate since they lost one of their best Run Blockers in Mack. PFF stated it's the "Mack Daddy" of injuries and you saw the results in JAX where Tate and Crowell struggled. Greco has posted two subpar (-1.1) games in Mack's position and the only strength of that line is now the left side in LT Bitonio and LG Thomas leading the way. They could improve but I'll believe it when I see it.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/10/lack_of_running_game_and_alex.html
But if fans didn't fully appreciate how important the run game is to the success of their offense, they should today. The Jaguars were the first opponent to blunt its effectiveness and the result was unsightly. The Browns, who entered ranked third in rushing (146.4 per game), managed 69 yards on 30 carries. You can bet other opponents will try similar box-stuffing tactics against a diminished line.

Unable to run, the play-action game was nullified. The unheralded receivers no longer found themselves as open, especially since the Jaguars pressured Hoyer effectively with just four rushers.

This also slightly lowers Jordan Cameron and Hawkins/Austin's value.
 
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SP33Demon

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I barely ever post questions like these, but this is seriously a tough call.

start two:

Julian Edelman vs CHI
TY Hilton vs PIT
Doug Baldwin vs CAR

Edelman's numbers have been a bit low lately but he's PPR gold
Hilton appears to be the best WR for Luck who is on fire
Baldwin just took over in SEA with Harvin gone
Hilton for sure.
Other two: Edelman just came off a bad game, while Baldwin came off of his best of the season. Edelman also posted a negative grade in 3 of the past 4 games. Brady also has more weapons than last year with Tyms/Wright in the mix. So Baldwin.
 

chitwood

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Hilton for sure.
Other two: Edelman just came off a bad game, while Baldwin came off of his best of the season. Edelman also posted a negative grade in 3 of the past 4 games. Brady also has more weapons than last year with Tyms/Wright in the mix. So Baldwin.

done, thanks speedy
 
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With Watkins playing at a high level, Orton has the best matchup of that group and he's scored 20 points or more in all 3 of his games, including @Detroit for 300 yds. I doubt @NYJ will be tougher than Detroit given their cupcake secondary.

Grabbed Orton over Smith after doing a little more research. Also grabbed RG3 for when he is healthy again.
 

weirdichi

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Should I stick with the Viqueens (vs Bucs) or grab the Browns (vs Raiders) off waivers?

Also, Fitzgerald (vs Eagles), Williams (vs Skins), or Royal (vs Broncs)?
Fitz has been a FF loser this year, but watch him just light it up the week I sit him.
 

Away

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Should I continue running with Walker as my TE even though the Titans are putting in a rookie QB? Daniels, Kelce, and Reed on waivers among others.
 

T2urtle

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Andre Johnson or Roddy white for the ROS. Ppr league.

I have AJ, guy isn't happy with white. It should be about even to me... Aj has foster stealing TD. Roddy has Julio taking catches but should be single coverage.
 

SP33Demon

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Andre Johnson or Roddy white for the ROS. Ppr league.

I have AJ, guy isn't happy with white. It should be about even to me... Aj has foster stealing TD. Roddy has Julio taking catches but should be single coverage.

While HST is the #5 rushingassing offense and ATL the #1 passing:rushing, I still like AJ over Roddy for a number of statistical reasons. In the end, all that matters to me are targets/catch percentage and Andre is 15th with 57 (39 caught) vs Roddy 18th with 52 (only 28 caught). 2 drops for AJ vs 5 Roddy. Yards after catch, Roddy has the lowest of the top 73 receivers at 1.9 tied with Kelvin Benjamin (minus the freak target radius of KB), AJ = 4.9 which is higher than big names like Julio, Antonio Brown, Dez, TY. Total yards, AJ #12 (496) vs Roddy #31 (353). Grading, AJ +2.2, Roddy -3.3 in Receiving. AJ's only flaw is lack of TD's which you will only feel the sting in Standard scoring leagues. It comes down to whether you value Roddy's 2 extra TDs more or AJ's higher target volume, better catch percentage and yards after the catch as well as performance on the year. I think now is actually a good time to sell high on Roddy as I picked up Flacco for him last week.
 

SP33Demon

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Zach Ertz or Daniel Owens? Thinking Owens as Ertz hasn't done crap since the first couple weeks.

Daniels is the better bet for now until Foles gets his OLine back. Ertz is only playing 50% snaps so that is leaving a lot less time for him to score, and he's TD dependent. Overall Ertz is the better talent/athlete but Celek is a blocking pro and Philly needs blocking right now.

Looking at the matchups this week, both teams go against the worst 2 pass rushes. Also, AZ is stout against the run so it could mean more passing for Foles. Cincy's D is shaping up to be horrible. Neither team can stop TE's either so Daniels is the safe play, Ertz is riskier with a higher ceiling if you are the underdog.
 
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NoCreativity

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Need WR help. Have two RBs I can trade

Lynch
McCoy

I also have Bradshaw but I doubt he will get a deal done. I'll try him first but I'm sure I will get countered for Lynch or McCoy. Which one would you trade assuming for an equally performing receiver.
 

SP33Demon

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Should I continue running with Walker as my TE even though the Titans are putting in a rookie QB? Daniels, Kelce, and Reed on waivers among others.

Too much risk, I'd wait until Mettenberger proves himself. Oh, and Clowney will be back for Houston and TEN rushes the most of any team in the league not named the Vikings. Kelce is the best talent of the 4 and I like him best since he's matchup proof. Daniels/Reed are both also good plays with Reed slightly better.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Need WR help. Have two RBs I can trade

Lynch
McCoy

I also have Bradshaw but I doubt he will get a deal done. I'll try him first but I'm sure I will get countered for Lynch or McCoy. Which one would you trade assuming for an equally performing receiver.

McCoy. Lynch is a fantasy monster and that's not changing anytime soon. McCoy could return to 2013 form when Kelce/Mathis return soon but there's no guarantee. Lynch has a slightly tougher schedule but the guy is already successful in the toughest division so he's matchup proof. I would love to trade for Lynch if I had the extra assets to do so.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Should I stick with the Viqueens (vs Bucs) or grab the Browns (vs Raiders) off waivers?

Also, Fitzgerald (vs Eagles), Williams (vs Skins), or Royal (vs Broncs)?
Fitz has been a FF loser this year, but watch him just light it up the week I sit him.
I'd go with MN/TB, lower over/under (42 vs 43.5). MN had a combined 10 sacks+takeaways last week. Also, on offense MN rushes more than any other team and guess who has the worst graded Run Defense in the league? TB. I'd expect heavy doses of Asiata/McKinnon/Bridgewater via the ground which kills clock which keeps scoring potential low.

CLE is tough at home and they should bounce back after last week's embarrassment, but that defense is reeling after taking it on the chin vs JAX. MN is simply playing better.
 

Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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Need WR help. Have two RBs I can trade

Lynch
McCoy

I also have Bradshaw but I doubt he will get a deal done. I'll try him first but I'm sure I will get countered for Lynch or McCoy. Which one would you trade assuming for an equally performing receiver.

Uhhh how about neither? Who could you possibly be getting to make it worth it? I wouldn't trade either of them for a healthy Megatron.
 

slayer202

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Nov 27, 2005
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Need WR help. Have two RBs I can trade

Lynch
McCoy

I also have Bradshaw but I doubt he will get a deal done. I'll try him first but I'm sure I will get countered for Lynch or McCoy. Which one would you trade assuming for an equally performing receiver.

I'd be fine trading any of those guys if you can get a top 10 receiver. If it's ppr, I wouldn't mind moving Lynch. Non ppr, mccoy. Would probably still give up bradshaw ahead of those two.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Reggie Wayne dropped in both ppr and standard league. Hmm. Wayne is tied for 10th in the league in targets, dropping him in PPR is pretty shortsighted; standard short leagues there are better options though. He does have 7 red zone targets but only converted one into a TD.
 
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