Official 2014 Fantasy Football Discussion Thread

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dougp

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OK, so I'm pretty mad. I had shit for signal on Thursday morning and had been playing with my lineup. I meant to start Jeffrey, but he was on my bench ... and there he sits with 28 points. Throw in Stills with 37 and I feel like a fucking moron. Hope I don't lose this week.
 

T2urtle

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I think I'm down to no runningbacks for next week. Elington and Jennings were both hurt, anyone know how bad aside from the posting on yahoo. I couldn't get the film.
 

dougp

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I think I'm down to no runningbacks for next week. Elington and Jennings were both hurt, anyone know how bad aside from the posting on yahoo. I couldn't get the film.


Doesn't look great. For Rashad: http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/11/...off-schwartz-robert-ayers-james-brewer-rashad

Maybe a sprained ankle? Even a mild sprain has put Julius Thomas out two games now.

Looks like Ellington could be day to day.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...ury-updates-on-cardinals-stars-hip-and-return
 

T2urtle

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Imported

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I think I would have killed it in the fanduel league this week.. played this same lineup in 4 entries. Though I think I got the wrong kicker again.. lol

BTW, it's horseshit that blocked punts for touchdowns don't count for points. Should have had another 12 there.

 
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eits

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OK, so I'm pretty mad. I had shit for signal on Thursday morning and had been playing with my lineup. I meant to start Jeffrey, but he was on my bench ... and there he sits with 28 points. Throw in Stills with 37 and I feel like a fucking moron. Hope I don't lose this week.

I sat DeAndre Hopkins and Tre Mason...
 

Kelvrick

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I came into tonight up by 10 with Jamaal Charles and Dolphins DST against CJ Anderson. Now I'm down. Common chiefs!
 

SP33Demon

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Ended up scoring the most points of the entire season, 175~ non PPR (Brees over 40, St.L over 40, Leveon over 30) this week. 3rd in overall scoring and not making the playoffs (only 4/10 go), sadness. Tough year on the points against. On that note, 4/12 in points scored in the other league but made playoffs with a losing record. So it all evens out I suppose.
 

glenn1

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So now for most of us the fantasy playoffs are upon us and some were cruelly denied a berth in them by fate/injuries/bad draft choices. Thus let's turn our attention to more worthwhile things we can actually participate in (besides sniping the guys who made the playoffs and why they were just lucky bastards who got all the breaks). Let's take an informal poll -

1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP?
2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)?
3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)?
4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)?
5. What lessons did you learn this year?
6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy?
 

slayer202

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Leveon Bell is one steal I can think of

Emmanuel Sanders


MVP is tough, there wasn't a real outlier this year at any position
 

T2urtle

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1. MVP... Forte gets mentioned top 5 solid RB for ppr. But I'm sure others have made better cases.
2. I like my Maclin for what he put up before Sanchez showed.
3. Bust... I guess we are judging by able bodies, Toby Gerhart.
4. Forestt and many Emanuel sanders.
5. TE are very slim pickings...
 

pete6032

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3. Bust... I guess we are judging by able bodies, Toby Gerhart.

Bust? You want to talk about busts, talk about at least half of the top 15 running backs. Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin, Zac Stacy, Montee Ball, Andre Ellington, Toby Gerhart. WR: Calvin Johnson, Keenan Allen, A.J. Green QB: Stafford, RG3, Nick Foles. Hell even Jimmy Graham has been crappy, he scored a big zero last week. This has been a crazy fantasy season.

1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP? Andrew Luck
2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)? Jeremy Maclin
3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)? Adrian Peterson
4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)?
5. What lessons did you learn this year? It's all a crapshoot
6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy?
 
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Kev

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1. MVP in PPR has to be Antonio Brown. Dude is just godlike and consistent. In standard either Brown or Murray.
2. Steal of the draft is a tossup Emmanuel Sanders or Maclin.
3. Montee Ball for bust of the year. Fuck that guy.
4. I guess Forsett?
5. Go with your gut especially when it comes to running backs on shitty teams. Don't know why I though Gerhart would be a good idea in 2 leagues. Also never draft CJ Spiller again. And Jimmy Graham is so not worth a 1st round pick.
6. Draft for value/be vigilant on the waiver wire/don't overreact to small sample sizes.
 

Imported

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1. Don't think anyone has pulled far enough ahead to be MVP. If I had to pick.. it'd be a tossup between Demaryius, Murray and Forte.
2. Le'Veon Bell or T.Y. Hilton.
3. Adrian Peterson. Although a case could be made for Doug Martin and Montee Ball pending when drafts happened.
4. Justin Forsett.
5. FF is random as hell.
6. Only AT league I made the playoffs in I went WR heavy. Got lucky picking up Forsett and ODBJ. Was stupid in dropping Mike Evans.
 

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1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP?
Andre Brown. In a PPR format he's the uncontested #1 WR. And in any other format he's got to be close. And he was going in the 2nd and 3rd rounds in many leagues. Old Man River's has been a stud for me too...and that was grabbing him out of desperation in the 9th round after I watched the first 12 QB's get run off the board. Jeremy Hill has also single handily saved my season with a couple good weeks of play. I drafted Rice, Bush, and Gerhart. Talk about a trifecta of fail there. I snuck into the playoffs in a 12 team league rolling with Hill and a tossup of Sproles or Stewart for my RB2's. Bleh. Hill has been a savior for me at RB.

2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)?
Maclin, Tate, Sanders, Steve Smith Sr at least through the first half of the season. Jeremy Hill has been huge for me. Argument for Kelvin Benjamin and Hopkins. Mike Evans went largely undrafted so can't count him. Same for Forsett.

3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)?
Too many to list. Graham, AP, Montee Ball, Gerhart, C. Patterson, Arrington, McCoy the first 3/4 of the season, Calvin Johnson, Matt Ryan, Doug Martin and so on. A lot of dead weight in early draft picks this year.

4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)? Forsett, Anderson (MVP for late season push), Mike Evans.

5. What lessons did you learn this year? Same as every year. It's 50%....or more pure dumb luck. Closer to 75% luck if you are in head to head leagues. You don't know when a player is going to explode or implode. And if a team will all do it at once for you or against you. Some weeks you'll win by a fraction. The next two you might loose by a fraction. Then you'll go on and win by 60 points. You can certainly do some management to help with waiver pickups (see Forsett, CJ anderson, Hillman, Evans). But overall you can't prevent injuries, can't always get those guys off the wire because you had to spend your waiver priority on a kicker that's on bye. And you certainly can't predict when a D/ST is going to go off the hook and put up a 30 point defensive effort and completely wreck your matchup while your DS/T takes what should be a low scoring game and turns it into a 50 point shootout and costs you points(looking at you Denver vs Miami!!!!)

6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy? Draft for you, not what the board is doing, go with your gut, and don't bother listening to fantasy pundits ramble on about this pick or that pick or this guy being a better pick or matchup than that one. Most of them are just talking out of their ass chest thumping whatever statistic they can come up with. But the reality is that they don't control games and you just play whatever you feel better with. Then sleep well on that because you can't control what happens on a field.

It's a game of luck with a bit of skill and nothing more.
 
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Adrenaline

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Bust? You want to talk about busts, talk about at least half of the top 15 running backs. Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin, Zac Stacy, Montee Ball, Andre Ellington, Toby Gerhart. WR: Calvin Johnson, Keenan Allen, A.J. Green QB: Stafford, RG3, Nick Foles. Hell even Jimmy Graham has been crappy, he scored a big zero last week. This has been a crazy fantasy season.

1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP? Andrew Luck
2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)? Jeremy Maclin
3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)? Adrian Peterson
4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)?
5. What lessons did you learn this year? It's all a crapshoot
6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy?

The following are not busts:

Doug Martin sucked last year and Montee Ball just got bumped up because of Peyton and not not his own credentials. Gerhart was hyped up due to more touches that he had ever seen before.

Calvin and AJ were injured some parts of the year.

RG3 was bad last year, you expected this to change?

The following are busts:
Stacy and Ellington (slightly injured but has played all year)
Allen
Stafford, Foles (before injury)

1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP? Andrew Luck or Le'Veon Bell
2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)? Emmanuel Sanders
3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)?I could put Adrian Peterson here but he was a victim of social media. Montee Ball was absolutely awful when he played. Brandon Marshall would be a close second as his numbers have not been great outside of 2-3 games.
4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)? Forsett
5. What lessons did you learn this year? Rounds 3-8 matter the most
6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy? Constantly use the Waiver Wire. Put in Waiver Wire adds across your roster if needed. I had eight slotted in one week and got three. Most people will try to add one, two at most. Don't hold on to people too long. I dumped Stacy and Patterson quick.
 
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SP33Demon

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1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP?
Andre Brown. In a PPR format he's the uncontested #1 WR. And in any other format he's got to be close. And he was going in the 2nd and 3rd rounds in many leagues. Old Man River's has been a stud for me too...and that was grabbing him out of desperation in the 9th round after I watched the first 12 QB's get run off the board. Jeremy Hill has also single handily saved my season with a couple good weeks of play. I drafted Rice, Bush, and Gerhart. Talk about a trifecta of fail there. I snuck into the playoffs in a 12 team league rolling with Hill and a tossup of Sproles or Stewart for my RB2's. Bleh. Hill has been a savior for me at RB.

2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)?
Maclin, Tate, Sanders, Steve Smith Sr at least through the first half of the season. Jeremy Hill has been huge for me. Argument for Kelvin Benjamin and Hopkins. Mike Evans went largely undrafted so can't count him. Same for Forsett.

3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)?
Too many to list. Graham, AP, Montee Ball, Gerhart, C. Patterson, Arrington, McCoy the first 3/4 of the season, Calvin Johnson, Matt Ryan, Doug Martin and so on. A lot of dead weight in early draft picks this year.

4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)? Forsett, Anderson (MVP for late season push), Mike Evans.

5. What lessons did you learn this year? Same as every year. It's 50%....or more pure dumb luck. Closer to 75% luck if you are in head to head leagues. You don't know when a player is going to explode or implode. And if a team will all do it at once for you or against you. Some weeks you'll win by a fraction. The next two you might loose by a fraction. Then you'll go on and win by 60 points. You can certainly do some management to help with waiver pickups (see Forsett, CJ anderson, Hillman, Evans). But overall you can't prevent injuries, can't always get those guys off the wire because you had to spend your waiver priority on a kicker that's on bye. And you certainly can't predict when a D/ST is going to go off the hook and put up a 30 point defensive effort and completely wreck your matchup while your DS/T takes what should be a low scoring game and turns it into a 50 point shootout and costs you points(looking at you Denver vs Miami!!!!)

6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy? Draft for you, not what the board is doing, go with your gut, and don't bother listening to fantasy pundits ramble on about this pick or that pick or this guy being a better pick or matchup than that one. Most of them are just talking out of their ass chest thumping whatever statistic they can come up with. But the reality is that they don't control games and you just play whatever you feel better with. Then sleep well on that because you can't control what happens on a field.

It's a game of luck with a bit of skill and nothing more.

Andre Brown, lol. You mean Antonio!

1) MVP is Brown or Murray, maybe Luck (def for passing heavy leagues). Bell has been good too but only lately, he started slow.
2) Biggest steal was probably E.Sanders or the rookie WRs.
3) Vi - listing Jimmy Graham as biggest busts? Uh, no, unless you mean Garrett Graham... Jimmy is the #2 TE this year. Biggest busts, wow there were a lot this year, esp based on ADP. AP, McCoy minus the last 2 weeks with his all-world OLine back, Ball, Martin, Randle, Stacy, Andre Johnson, Jordan Cameron, Gerhart, Micheal Floyd, Bush, Spiller, Patterson, Harvin, Decker, Crapernick, Welker, Pitta, Pierce, Ridley, Rice, RG3, MJD, McFadden, Hunter, Carolina D (after losing Hardy), CJ-lickmynuts-OK to name a few that were in my top 150 spreadsheet.
4) Best Waiver wire pickups? I'd also agree with Forsett/Evans/CJ, Jordan Matthews, Detroit DST (before losing Fairley). Others to a lesser degree - ODB, Tre Mason, Kelce, Donnell.
5) That even if you are top 4 in scoring, it doesn't mean you'll finish even top 5. A lot of luck is involved, even moreso this year. I'm not going to give up other tricks of the trade but if you've been following this thread you probably know a lot of my tactics, such as burning a high waiver to dramatically up your chances of winning by fucking your opponent over, or pulling off a lopsided trade to get the player you want if you can properly identify comparable replacements on the WW (thus minimizing your trade loss). One of the bigger ones that you've probably heard many times before is don't chase points. Oh, and the squeaky wheel usually gets the oil.
 
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Lol. Yeah Antonio. Had Andre Williams on my brain as he was a bust too when he had to fill in for Jennings.

As for Graham...in 6 out of 12 games he's put up 8, 5, 3, 0, 2, and 0 points(non PPR). For a first round pick that's Bustville to me.
 
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eits

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1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP? Andrew Luck... any mediocre to decent quarterback hardly any run game with the easiest strength of schedule should be MVP.

2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)? leveon bell, emmanuel sanders

3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)? adrian peterson, lesean mccoy, rg3

4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)? justin forsett

5. What lessons did you learn this year? no more drafting running backs first... go with stud receivers and quarterbacks who have an easy as hell schedule (given that the colts have had top three easiest strength of schedule ever for the past 3 years, probably go with andrew luck)

6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy?
 

rcpratt

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Just because the TE position is thin doesn't mean Graham is necessarily a bust. I guess it's all relative to where he was drafted.

Anyways...for me, 4th in scoring but missed my 6-man playoff by a half-game. Too many teams clumped up at 7-6/8-5 in our league, and the others got freebie wins against teams that mailed it in. Sigh.
 

SP33Demon

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Lol. Yeah Antonio. Had Andre Williams on my brain as he was a bust too when he had to fill in for Jennings.

As for Graham...in 6 out of 12 games he's put up 8, 5, 3, 0, 2, and 0 points(non PPR). For a first round pick that's Bustville to me.

Yeah, but Graham has popped off like a mofo in the other weeks (at least double digits 8 times) and he's still #2. I wouldn't call 4 weeks/12 of low scoring a bust, especially when TE production is so abysmal this year. Gronk has really only been the consistent TE all year, JT is boom or bust like Graham and that's your top 3. As the #2 TE, he still contributed a boatload of cumulative points to the position which translates into tie breakers (total points) in many leagues. Not seeing that as a bust at all.
 

Uppsala9496

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1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP? Andrew Luck... any mediocre to decent quarterback hardly any run game with the easiest strength of schedule should be MVP.

2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)? leveon bell, emmanuel sanders

3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)? adrian peterson, lesean mccoy, rg3

4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)? justin forsett

5. What lessons did you learn this year? no more drafting running backs first... go with stud receivers and quarterbacks who have an easy as hell schedule (given that the colts have had top three easiest strength of schedule ever for the past 3 years, probably go with andrew luck)

6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy?
I went stud WR first in a league. Megatron and AJ Green. Has been a maddening season in that league.
I did manage to squeak into the playoffs with a 6-7 record (6th of 10 teams).
 

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Just because the TE position is thin doesn't mean Graham is necessarily a bust. I guess it's all relative to where he was drafted.

Graham was an ADP of around 1.08 or so in many leagues. Considering that guys like Olsen, Gates, and Bennett were going in the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th + rounds and putting up similar seasonal figures..yeah he's a bust to me. He had good games W2 & W10. Ok games in W4 & W12. And pretty much...meh after that. Heck, even compared to Gronk who went in the 4th/5th rounds he's still a massive bust. Julius Thomas has been killing his owners as of late too, but he was going a few rounds later than Jimmy.
 

digiram

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1. Who was the 2014 season fantasy football MVP? Demarco Murray
2. Who was the biggest steal of the draft (top 150 consensus pick)? J. Maclin
3. Who was the biggest bust of the draft (top 150)? AP
4. Who was the waiver wire pickup of the year (not in the top 150)? Forsett
5. What lessons did you learn this year? Pick a good QB sooner rather than later. So, you don't have to stream and waste waivers on QB
6. For those who did make the playoffs, did you have a particular strategy?
I got lucky and picked 11th out of 12th. My first two picks of the draft were P. Manning and D. Murray. I snagged Maclin late.
 
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