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HOSED

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Oh I don't think he means anything by it and it's pretty fucking funny, but he does come off like a bit of a dope imo
I would tend to agree but the real dopes are the ones who drafted him (Hinkie and crew).
He has all the potential to be the next Andrew Bynum. Maybe the sixers will trade for Paul George next, it will give then another stiff, to keep Noel and the tweeter company.
 

manly

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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sourc...ommits-to-staying-in-cleveland-054657392.html

Woj reporting that Love to Cavs for Bennett/Wiggins/2015 protected 1st rounder is agreed upon in principal (and has been for weeks) but can't be executed until ~8/23 due to Wiggins rookie contract signing. Love also reportedly agreed to sign 5y/120M deal following his contract expiration.

Feel a little bad for Wiggins, some of the interviews he's had recently are just kind of morose and he wouldn't exactly be going into a great situation in MIN.

Here's hoping Rose comes back strong, Gasol/Mirotic fit and play well, Wall/Beal continue to improve and maybe an upstart takes the next step (TOR? CHA? ATL?) so that some really good teams come out of the EC this year.
A lot of people think that price for KLove is too high, since the Wolves really don't have that much leverage. Love is going to walk anyway and reportedly the Dubs never made Klay Thompson available (Thompson is also coming off his rookie deal soon, so he's less valuable from a cap hit perspective).

Nevertheless, with the Pacers taking a big step backwards, (and barring injury) the Cavs are clearly the team to beat in the EC. Some of ya'll will insist the Bulls are a force if D-Rose is "back" but come on, let's not delude ourselves.
 

dougp

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A lot of people think that price for KLove is too high, since the Wolves really don't have that much leverage. Love is going to walk anyway and reportedly the Dubs never made Klay Thompson available (Thompson is also coming off his rookie deal soon, so he's less valuable from a cap hit perspective).

Nevertheless, with the Pacers taking a big step backwards, (and barring injury) the Cavs are clearly the team to beat in the EC. Some of ya'll will insist the Bulls are a force if D-Rose is "back" but come on, let's not delude ourselves.

I hope you're being sarcastic. KLove put up his numbers as the #1 option on his team - the best you can hope he does now is Bosh numbers when Bosh joined the Heat, because he's going to be behind Kyrie and James. He'll stretch the floor better, but he's still going to be a defensive liability.

Regardless of what happened with the Pacers, the Bulls and Cavs were going to be the top two teams in the EC. Just because the Cavs get KLove, doesn't mean they're the clear favorite. That's playing just as many what-ifs as DRose staying healthy.
 

Red Storm

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I would not have traded Wiggins for Love. The dude has potential to be great, and that's only magnified when you can have him play and practice with the best in the business today. They went total win now mode when I feel like they had a pretty good win now team already.
 

smackababy

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I would not have traded Wiggins for Love. The dude has potential to be great, and that's only magnified when you can have him play and practice with the best in the business today. They went total win now mode when I feel like they had a pretty good win now team already.

I still think Wiggins is going to be a bust. Perhaps, they realized the same after seeing him try and workout with the team? Irving is 22 and Lebron is 29. They aren't terrible old.
 
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I would not have traded Wiggins for Love. The dude has potential to be great, and that's only magnified when you can have him play and practice with the best in the business today. They went total win now mode when I feel like they had a pretty good win now team already.

Love is already a great player. Based on Wiggins' current ability and demeanor, I can't see him surpassing Love as a player.
 

manly

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I hope you're being sarcastic. KLove put up his numbers as the #1 option on his team - the best you can hope he does now is Bosh numbers when Bosh joined the Heat, because he's going to be behind Kyrie and James. He'll stretch the floor better, but he's still going to be a defensive liability.

Regardless of what happened with the Pacers, the Bulls and Cavs were going to be the top two teams in the EC. Just because the Cavs get KLove, doesn't mean they're the clear favorite. That's playing just as many what-ifs as DRose staying healthy.
Personally I like Love and he's a good fit for LeBron, but he put up volume numbers for bad teams. I think the jury is still out on whether he's a true superstar level player. If the NBA doesn't block the trade, we'll find out within the next 2 seasons.

Lol D-Rose has had major knee injuries, but the Cavs have just as many what-ifs? I'm not saying the Cavs are a title contender. I am saying that LeBron now paired with Love can at least carry them through the East. Even before the trading Love to Cleveland scenario was floated, bookmakers had already installed the Cavs are predominant favorites in the Eastern Conference. This really isn't rocket science, Thibs gets the max out of his players in the regular season, but they haven't shown themselves to be true title contenders. Even with an MVP-winning D-Rose a few years ago. I realize the team has been retooled since, but it's easy for Bulls fans to be optimistic when everybody is tied 0-0 in the standings.

smackababy, Part of the motivation for the trade is that LeBron is 29. His athletic peak will last about 3 more seasons. Since Wiggins is a very raw talent, it could take longer than that for him to become a star, if he ever does.
 

dougp

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Personally I like Love and he's a good fit for LeBron, but he put up volume numbers for bad teams. I think the jury is still out on whether he's a true superstar level player. If the NBA doesn't block the trade, we'll find out within the next 2 seasons.

Lol D-Rose has had major knee injuries, but the Cavs have just as many what-ifs? I'm not saying the Cavs are a title contender. I am saying that LeBron now paired with Love can at least carry them through the East. Even before the trading Love to Cleveland scenario was floated, bookmakers had already installed the Cavs are predominant favorites in the Eastern Conference. This really isn't rocket science, Thibs gets the max out of his players in the regular season, but they haven't shown themselves to be true title contenders. Even with an MVP-winning D-Rose a few years ago. I realize the team has been retooled since, but it's easy for Bulls fans to be optimistic when everybody is tied 0-0 in the standings.

smackababy, Part of the motivation for the trade is that LeBron is 29. His athletic peak will last about 3 more seasons. Since Wiggins is a very raw talent, it could take longer than that for him to become a star, if he ever does.

The Bulls were still a competitive team with out Rose, Gasol, and the other players they added. The Cavs? Not even close. It seems like James has gone back to his early days with the Cavs, and I don't think KLove is good enough to push them any higher. Kyrie is a good player, but again, he was a good player on a nothing team, just like KLove. Before, when James joined Wade and Bosh, both Wade and Bosh pushed their teams to the playoffs - something neither Kyrie or KLove has done.

If Rose is even 75% of what he was before, that is enough offensive out put for the Bulls to really help - adding Aaron Brooks is good, as well as Gasol.
 

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heh. i saw right through lefraud's "going home" facade from the start. it was always about him bailing for greener pastures when the going got tough. "going home" to "mentor" my ass.
 

manly

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heh. i saw right through lefraud's "going home" facade from the start. it was always about him bailing for greener pastures when the going got tough. "going home" to "mentor" my ass.
greener pastures?

The Cavs won 33 games last season, and have had a horrible front office for years. Plenty in this thread have said Andrew Wiggins looks to have most of the necessary physical attributes, but is far from a lock for future stardom. LeBron knew a month ago that the Cavs would acquire Kevin Love?

Like him or hate him, he's still the best player in the world right now with KD nipping at his heels. There's a solid gap behind those two.
 

Miramonti

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heh. i saw right through lefraud's "going home" facade from the start. it was always about him bailing for greener pastures when the going got tough. "going home" to "mentor" my ass.

Maybe we're not the only ones that saw an aging paralytic called DWade play in the finals...

No elite DWade, no heat rings, period.
 

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Maybe we're not the only ones that saw an aging paralytic called DWade play in the finals...

No elite DWade, no heat rings, period.

so why lie about "going home" to "mentor", then shipping out one of the best prospects to "mentor"?
 

manly

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if you can't even see that, you have no business replying.
If you don't understand that LeBron makes the Cavs title contenders and not the other way around, please keep replying and making yourself sound silly. I'm not saying the Cavs win the Finals. But with KLove, they should get there. And I guess you don't understand that the reported trade isn't official now, much less weeks ago when LB made up his mind.

And why do you care so much what Bron's reasons are? I think he still wants to win titles, isn't that what we expect of elite athletes? Personally would've preferred he stay in Miami at least one more season but don't begrudge him taking a leap back to Cleveland.
 

Miramonti

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so why lie about "going home" to "mentor", then shipping out one of the best prospects to "mentor"?

Now you just sound whiney. Does he owe you something - did he hurt you? He made a great move timing-wise and you can simply ask a basketball fan from cleveland to verify that. What's funny is how little sympathy people have for Miami, quite unlike cleveland a few years ago.
 
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darkewaffle

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Whenever CP3/Blake/Doc leave the Clippers and they return to the dregs of the league. So what, 3-5 years?
 

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Tomorrow is the next US exhibition game vs Dominican Republic, anyone know if/where these are broadcast or streamed? Would have liked to watch vs BR but didn't realize they were starting already lol.
 

dougp

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Tomorrow is the next US exhibition game vs Dominican Republic, anyone know if/where these are broadcast or streamed? Would have liked to watch vs BR but didn't realize they were starting already lol.

Check WatchESPN or nba.com - those are the only two I can think of that are legit. I don't believe FIBA streams anywhere.
 
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