*Official 2014 NFL WildCard Weekend Thread* - Where Romo Happens..

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IndyColtsFan

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Fuck all of you all who are bitching about that one call. You fail to mention the missed calls that should have been called for the Cowboys in the first half? Hope you haters enjoy having Jerry's dick rammed down your throats. Bunch of cunts.

You also fail to mention the holding by the Cowboys offensive line, especially a very obvious hold by #77 against #94 on the final drive. But that's football -- those get missed. Calling a penalty and then saying "no penalty" with no explanation when an OBVIOUS penalty occurred is completely different.
 

dougp

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You also fail to mention the holding by the Cowboys offensive line, especially a very obvious hold by #77 against #94 on the final drive. But that's football -- those get missed. Calling a penalty and then saying "no penalty" with no explanation when an OBVIOUS penalty occurred is completely different.

Hey jackass, as usual, there is always holding with every offensive line. You retards bitch about it all the fucking time when it doesn't go your teams way but fail to notice it when it benefits you.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Got to look at the entire play.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...on-call-against-dallas-cowboys-003739926.html
Look at the 28 second mark in which Pettigrew shoved the defender's face twice.

Even better shot at the 48 second mark in which Pettigrew very obviously pushed off on the defender's face mask and it was there for quit a bit. That should have been offensive pass interference first.

I watched the video. You're nuts. Incidental contact. The defenders head does not snap back at all.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Hey jackass, as usual, there is always holding with every offensive line. You retards bitch about it all the fucking time when it doesn't go your teams way but fail to notice it when it benefits you.

Hey moron, we're discussing the miss on the pass interference call and you were the idiot who brought up other penalties you thought should've been called on the Lions, to which I replied "Yeah, well there were other misses on the Cowboys as well."
 

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Hey moron, we're discussing the miss on the pass interference call and you were the idiot who brought up other penalties you thought should've been called, to which I replied "Yeah, well there were other misses as well."

Well wah, they lost. Not like shit can be changed. Get the fuck over it and move on.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Well wah, they lost. Not like shit can be changed. Get the fuck over it and move on.

Did we say it could? No. We're debating a call. Don't like it? Tough crap, don't reply. Your Cowboys Persecution Complex is comedy gold, however.
 

dougp

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Did we say it could? No. We're debating a call. Don't like it? Tough crap, don't reply. Your Cowboys Persecution Complex is comedy gold, however.

Oh, and where was the roughing the kicker penalty when the Lions hit the Cowboys punter? Huh?
 

IndyColtsFan

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Oh, and where was the roughing the kicker penalty when the Lions hit the Cowboys punter? Huh?

They missed it. I think they thought the guy was blocked into the punter -- from one angle it did look that way, but from the other angle, it clearly wasn't the case. Next?
 

positivedoppler

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Hey moron, we're discussing the miss on the pass interference call and you were the idiot who brought up other penalties you thought should've been called on the Lions, to which I replied "Yeah, well there were other misses on the Cowboys as well."

Common guys..no need for name calling.
 

dougp

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They missed it. I think they thought the guy was blocked into the punter -- from one angle it did look that way, but from the other angle, it clearly wasn't the case. Next?

The person who hit the punter didn't have his direction changed by the blocker, he was clearly trying to go around him. It was a roughing call, and should have been called if they called the bullshit one against the Cowboys.
 

IndyColtsFan

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The person who hit the punter didn't have his direction changed by the blocker, he was clearly trying to go around him. It was a roughing call, and should have been called if they called the bullshit one against the Cowboys.

Uh, that's exactly what I just said -- he clearly was not blocked into the punter. Because of that, it is a running into the kicker or roughing the kicker, depending on if the kicking leg is hit IIRC.
 

dougp

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Also, Hitchins couldn't turn around because he was being directed by Pettigrew.
 

IndyColtsFan

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We'll see what the league says tomorrow. Hitchens, IMO, had nearly an entire second to turn and look for the ball.
 

positivedoppler

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To me, the hand looked free from the face mask well before the defender's arm pushed his shoulder.

Hitchen's entire face swung towards the right of the screen when the receiver hand first made contact with his face mask. We can agree to disagree if you feel that there was no real contact there. But if there was contact, and I think there was a for an extended period of time, Hitchen had every right to use his left arm to dislodge the receiver's hold of his face mask.
 

Retro Rob

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He didn't grab the facemask at any rate. He reached back and his hand contacted it. Big difference. I believe the league will say the call should've stood.

Game 6 of the 2002 WCF...hardly no calls were given to the Kings because the games was clearly given to the Lakers.

Yeah, I watched the game and I am not pissed at all. Sure that was a game changer, but you still cannot win scoring only 3 points for the second half, and with Cald-a-sack too scared to play to win (should have went for it on the 4th and 1)

Sure, I think he improved the team, but no TD's, a scared coach, an offense that was shut down in the second half, no...I will not say that non-PI call costs us the game.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Hitchen's entire face swung towards the right of the screen when the receiver hand first made contact with his face mask. We can agree to disagree if you feel that there was no real contact there. But if there was contact, and I think there was a for an extended period of time, Hitchen had every right to use his left arm to dislodge the receiver's hold of his face mask.

Hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and can admit it. I just don't see it. I'll wait for the league's explanation. Regardless of what the right call was, it was handled very poorly. You don't call a penalty, announce it to the whole stadium, and then decide it wasn't a penalty and give no explanation.

Even if it was PI and should've been called, that doesn't mean Detroit would win either but it was a momentum shifter.

Game 6 of the 2002 WCF...hardly no calls were given to the Kings because the games was clearly given to the Lakers.

Yeah, I watched the game and I am not pissed at all. Sure that was a game changer, but you still cannot win scoring only 3 points for the second half, and with Cald-a-sack too scared to play to win (should have went for it on the 4th and 1)

Sure, I think he improved the team, but no TD's, a scared coach, an offense that was shut down in the second half, no...I will not say that non-PI call costs us the game.

Yeah, I'm not going to claim the call cost the Lions the game. There was still a lot of time left and anything could've happened. And this call was nowhere near as bad as some I've seen, such as the call last year where the refs gave the Bengals a TD against the Colts on a replay reversal, when the replay showed the runner clearly down at the 1.

Caldwell plays not to lose instead of playing to win. He did that in Indy too.
 
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Retro Rob

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Yeah, I'm not going to claim the call cost the Lions the game. There was still a lot of time left and anything could've happened. And this call was nowhere near as bad as some I've seen, such as the call last year where the refs gave the Bengals a TD against the Colts on a replay reversal, when the replay showed the runner clearly down at the 1.

I've never seen a ref pick up a flag AFTER the call was made without an explanation.

...and I heard on the radio tonight that one of refs (perhaps the one who picked up the flag) was on Jerry Jones' party bus this week.

Any truth to that?

Caldwell plays not to lose instead of playing to win. He did that in Indy too.

Yes, he does...and he said "we had the lead" as to why he didn't go for it.

OK, you have a 3 point lead, Dallas is scoring TD's, you need more TD's to win, and you decide to punt (which turned out to bite you in the ass anyway).

If the Lions cannot produce a playoff win under Caldwell, I think it can be directly tied to his reluctance to play to win when the chips are on the table like today.
 

lupi

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not sure why yall are debating this, I noticed that the receiver had his hands in and pulling the face mask when the play was live. when the DB arm goes up to press against the WR shoulder/it's in response to the hand in the face mask.
 

IndyColtsFan

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not sure why yall are debating this, I noticed that the receiver had his hands in and pulling the face mask when the play was live. when the DB arm goes up to press against the WR shoulder/it's in response to the hand in the face mask.

The problem is the fact that they called the penalty, announced it to the stadium, and after a delay, picked the flag up. No explanation was offered. That's the real problem here, regardless of the what the right call was.

I don't see a facemask pull either. I see the guys hand touch the facemask and his fingers were possibly stuck in it. I don't see him grabbing and pulling it though.

EDIT: And yes, Dez should've been flagged.
 

Retro Rob

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not sure why yall are debating this, I noticed that the receiver had his hands in and pulling the face mask when the play was live. when the DB arm goes up to press against the WR shoulder/it's in response to the hand in the face mask.

He was not pulling the facemask. Besides, no penalty on Dez Bryant for running onto the field, no helmet, charging the ref?

It stinks, and looks as if they were trying to help Dallas.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Plus, remember, that is a non-reviewable call so these guys have to make the call based on what they see on the field in real-time. The penalty should never have been called without the officials discussing it first.
 
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