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JulesMaximus

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My DVR didn't record the race yesterday so I had to wait until the replay to watch it tonight. Just finished it... can't help but wonder why the hell Mercedes put Nico on the prime tire at that last stop.

Vettel earned that win. Was strange hearing the German national anthem and then the Italian national anthem again. I've probably seen ever single podium when Michael Schumacher won for Ferrari so it is something I'll always associate with him.
 

foghorn67

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My DVR didn't record the race yesterday so I had to wait until the replay to watch it tonight. Just finished it... can't help but wonder why the hell Mercedes put Nico on the prime tire at that last stop.

Vettel earned that win. Was strange hearing the German national anthem and then the Italian national anthem again. I've probably seen ever single podium when Michael Schumacher won for Ferrari so it is something I'll always associate with him.

You did what I did. The race was on NBC and not NBCSN. Derp.
 

JulesMaximus

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Ah, this explains it I guess.

Q: But then when did you lose Nico’s race? He was in a promising position and at one point looked set to take the lead in the championship…
Toto Wolff: Nico struggled on the soft tyres at the beginning - then we put the prime on. It was a very unlucky situation for a tyre change: you put the tyres under the pot to heat in case you have an accident and have to pit - and because it was 28 or something laps to the chequered flag the prime tyre was still under the pot and when the virtual safety car came out. He was three corners from the pit lane entrance then, so we called him in - and the only tyre available that very moment was the prime tyre. If he had done a lap under the virtual safety car then we would have switched from the prime to the option as his final tyre - but you have to live with your decisions. We will enter this race in the books as our contribution for a sizzling race. Don’t expect us to do this more than once! (laughs) We will do anything to get back to where we’ve been.
 

Brian Stirling

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The thing with Hungary is that it's not the easiest track to pass on but not impossible and the passes that do happen tend to be pretty darn exciting. The track has elevation changes and is a pretty touch test for the drivers. It seems many of the drivers really like it.

Now, the race was one of the best this year and having Ferrari take a second win was nice to see as was Seb's win as driver. While Lewis made several mistakes Seb didn't put a wheel wrong. Kimi's luck just couldn't get any worse though and man do I feel bad for him. I'd hate to see Kimi exit F1 as his radio conversations alone make his place in F1 very entertaining.

I don't know for sure but it looks like Ferrari has closed the gap to Merc at least a bit and Red Bull appears to have made significant progress as well. Williams looks to have slipped back a bit.

Lastly, listening to Seb congratulate the team in Italian and saying words about Jules in French was pure class -- he's really made a home for himself at Ferrari.


Brian
 

Meghan54

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Qualifying was this morning for Belgium. Damn, Hamilton was fast in Q3. Vettel struggled to 9th in Q3.
 

_Rick_

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Hmm, I was expecting Rosberg to take pole, after being strong in Q2 and the practice sessions, too. But in Q3 Hamilton really found some pace...

Vettel's slow lap was also quite surprising, especially with a comfy third position in Q2.
Lotus did well, getting the cars to the sharp end, and Honda/McLaren is just a continuing embarassment.
 

foghorn67

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Positions 3-9 are really tight. It could be anyone in any position. That being said, I am happy Grosjean got a good slot. He is a solid talent that deserves a better car. Even if it was at the expense of Massa, my sentimental favorite for the year.
 

_Rick_

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Well, Vettel just has no luck this year.
Even in Hungary, that safety car jeopardized his race, and now he looses a tire on the Kemmel and goes from third to eleventh on the last lap.
Judging by how much Grosjean backed off in the penultimate lap, I was expecting Ferrari's mad one-stop gamble to pay off, but damn, they got punished for trying.

Hamilton and Rosberg were barely on camera all race long, but behind them there was a surprising amount of action, though too many DNFs for my taste.

Also, do virtual safety cars count as safety cars with regard to the predictions
 

smackababy

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Well, Vettel just has no luck this year.
Even in Hungary, that safety car jeopardized his race, and now he looses a tire on the Kemmel and goes from third to eleventh on the last lap.
Judging by how much Grosjean backed off in the penultimate lap, I was expecting Ferrari's mad one-stop gamble to pay off, but damn, they got punished for trying.

Hamilton and Rosberg were barely on camera all race long, but behind them there was a surprising amount of action, though too many DNFs for my taste.

Also, do virtual safety cars count as safety cars with regard to the predictions

There was a lot of laps on those tires. It doesn't surprise me Vettel blew one. He wasn't taking it very easy either. Gamble that didn't pay off.

It was a pretty good race minus a few DNFs and the blow out positions 3 and back.
 

JulesMaximus

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There was a lot of laps on those tires. It doesn't surprise me Vettel blew one. He wasn't taking it very easy either. Gamble that didn't pay off.

It was a pretty good race minus a few DNFs and the blow out positions 3 and back.

I was kind of surprised Ferrari gambled on that strategy quite frankly. Given that failure Rosberg had on Friday practice and that nobody seemed to have an explanation as to why the tire failed. Then again, hindsight is always 20/20.

Good race overall. Was hoping Rosberg would be able to fight with Lewis for the win but he just didn't seem to have any extra to fight with Lewis. Those two are really on very equal terms this season with Lewis just finding a little extra in the car it seems.

Was odd having an entire race weekend at Spa with no rain. I honestly can't remember the last time that happened.
 

Meghan54

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Remember, Monza this morning, 8AM, ET. May be quite interesting with Ham on pole, Ferrair #2 & 3, Nico #4 on start grid. And that Hamilton is running the 2016 spec Merc engine, which Nico was also running during practice but had to revert back to the "current" engine because of unspecified problems. Hmmm.....
 

_Rick_

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Monza was another not-too-exciting race, despite Kimi coming back through the field after a fumbled start,

Mercedes are looking at no points, with a double DSQ due to low tire pressures on the rear left on the grid.
 

foghorn67

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Felipe is constantly one upping his teammate when the pressure is on. I am glad their team is intact next year.
I am still hoping for Honda to have one of their best off season development cycle's ever.

Any news on the Haas F1 driver selection?
 

smackababy

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Monza wasn't terrible. There were some good fights and thankfully it wasn't Mercedes 1 and 2 by 20+ seconds.
 

_Rick_

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Apparently, the situation has been defused - the FIA's measuring procedure has been called into question, because somehow the tire warming blankets weren't plugged in and the tires not at operating temperature when examined.
 

Meghan54

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Apparently, the situation has been defused - the FIA's measuring procedure has been called into question, because somehow the tire warming blankets weren't plugged in and the tires not at operating temperature when examined.


I also read on a Brit F1 website that when the tires were inflated in the garage, it was done with a Pirelli engineer present, who checked them and OK'd the pressures. So, somehow Ham's tires lost 0.3 psi in one tire, Nico lost 1.1 psi in one tire. F1 Deflategate.
 

Brian Stirling

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Yeah, they need to stop the celebrity interview nonsense and quick. And they need to prevent Coultard from doing interviews as well -- the last time he did one I wanted to reach through the TV and choke the fucker!

I'd have loved for Kimi to get a good start and give Lewis a run for his money along with Seb but that wasn't in the cards. I'm not sure what Kimi's problem was, but that could have been pretty bad if someone at the back of the grid ran into him at 130mph.


Brian
 

Meghan54

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Well, it's being "rumored" that Red Bull is going to cancel its contract with Renault after this season, a year early. So this begs the question, who is going to be Red Bull's engine supplier?

I just can't imagine Mercedes would gladly do it, given their increasing tussles with Williams, whom they supply already. Can't think Mercedes would willingly give their powerplants to another competitor, one that may be more able to capitalize upon it than Williams is currently doing.

And Ferrari....the same sort of arguments crop up. Why supply a competitor that may be a real competitor if it gets a good power plant like Ferrari's?

Honda? (That made me cringe and chuckle when I typed that....)
 
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