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Brian Stirling

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I think "get in front" and you will probably win, likely hasn't changed a lot.

If you can get into the lead in clean air with a decent car, it's difficult to catch you.


Lewis got in front but didn't win. Why? Because Vettel stayed out and passed him and Lewis wasn't fast enough to catch him.

There is less passing in F1 than NASCAR -- so what. NASCAR may have a crap ton of passing but 95% of the passes mean nothing until the final 20 laps.

Road racing isn't oval racing ... thank god!!!


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ars technica is isn't nearly what it used to be, but here's a couple interesting articles:

Racing goes electric: At the track with Formula E, the first e-racing series

Slow but thrilling: Formula E Schools is ePrix’s teenaged training ground

The lead changed hands multiple times, right down to the very final lap. Since the entire lap was under full throttle (according to the race winner), conserving momentum, choosing the optimum line through the corners, and slipstreaming one’s rivals was crucial. The smallest mistake could drop a car back several yards from their rivals, and the student-racers were evidently concentrating hard for the 20 minute race.
 

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Lewis got in front but didn't win. Why?

Because he let Vettel get out in front in clean air. Previously, they had no competition fast enough to worry about, even if they got in front on a pit stop. Hopefully now they do.

I find NASCAR road racing to be very entertaining. More so than F1.
I really wish they would add another track or two.

NASCAR is suffering from lower attaendance, to the point of removing a lot of seats from several tracks.

Overall, I think it is the same basic problem that other series are having. The obsessive desire to make all the cars the same.

BTW, Juan Pablo Montoya won the opening Indy car street race.

The race itself was a bit of a goof, with the Honda cars shedding their new aero kits like crazy, causing lots of debris problems.
It got to the point where they just didn't bother picking it up, and everyone drove around it.

Ironically, this aero kit deal was supposedly an attempt to let the teams make their cars different from each other.
 
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Chevrolet announced 123 pieces to its bodywork design, Honda nearly 200. Evidence could be found all up and down the streets along Tampa Bay.

The first half of the race was slowed by five full-course cautions. It seemed every challenge made by one driver led to broken pieces of another's kit. At one point the count was seven damaged Honda front wings, two for Chevrolet. By race's end there were several more than that.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ins-indycar-opener-in-st-petersburg/70640270/
 

RockinZ28

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Such an awesome race. I could feel my heart pounding from around lap 26 until the end.

Congrats to Ferrari. Have to admit I thought their 3 win season goal was comical. Especially after Round 1 where even though they looked strong, they were no where near Merc level. Now hoping they really take the fight to Merc and surpass that goal.

Don't really care if Merc wins every race, as long as someone is actually challenging them. That makes it exciting. Do not want to see another season of Ham vs Ros.
 

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It was silly to drop the medium tires on lap 3 or whatever. Then they got the cars back out in traffic and Vettel ran away. I think it's a strategy hiccup and Merc will be way out front again in the next few races. Maybe just 10 seconds this time.
 

Brian Stirling

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It was silly to drop the medium tires on lap 3 or whatever. Then they got the cars back out in traffic and Vettel ran away. I think it's a strategy hiccup and Merc will be way out front again in the next few races. Maybe just 10 seconds this time.

Ferrari out scored Merc this race (1st and 4th better than 2nd and 3rd).

Merc is still the faster car but not by very much and in the race Ferrari, being easier on the tires, is probably about equal to Merc.

Now if Sauber, Williams, Lotus and Red Bull can step up perhaps Merc will have to work for it.


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chinese gp friday practice is complete - hamilton, rosberg, vettel in 1st round, hamilton, raikkonen, ricciardo in the 2nd.

be sure to get your predictions in today! qualifying starts at 3am eastern (gmt -5), race starts sunday 2am eastern.
 
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De Niro to play Ferrari

Speaking to an Italian newspaper, veteran actor Robert De Niro has reportedly signed up to play Enzo Ferrari in an upcoming film biopic portraying the legendary Italian. It'll be called, simply, Ferrari.

De Niro, 71, told Italy's Il Messaggero that he will take on the role of one of the car world's giants, in a film spanning 1945 to the 1980s, the latter being of course, the era of the Ferrari F40.
 

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While that doesn't necessarily have to do with F1, I still like the news. De Niro is a great actor and I could see him doing well in the role. I mean, we know he can act Italian (Godfarther 2).
 
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While that doesn't necessarily have to do with F1, I still like the news. De Niro is a great actor and I could see him doing well in the role. I mean, we know he can act Italian (Godfarther 2).

these threads have never been strictly f1. we welcome all sorts of multi-millionaires here
 

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Glad to see the challenge brought to Mercedes. Hamilton is still on top. I wonder if Ferrari has the best race pace again. Strong showing by Williams. Glad to see them catch on quicker, relative to this time last year.
Now for my rant. Nothing none haven't before.
I miss Magny-Cours, Jerez, Portugal, San Marino, old Hokenheim, old Silverstone.
I'm glad Cataluna, Suzuka, Monza are mainstays. Mexico is back (yay), but dat turn is alterered. Old Hockenheim's defence. The land was leased or owned by someone else, and they wanted it back. Nothing could have been done about that.
My most unrealistic wish, Brands Hatch.
 

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Racing returns to normal. No one really close to Mercedes in the race.

We have a new best of the rest, Ferrari.

Ferrari was pretty good, but clearly not competitive with Mercedes.

Williams a distant third class.

The race between Kimi and Seb might have been good, but for a questionable Safety Car with 3 laps to go. Kimi was reeling him in fast. Race ended under yellow.
 

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Safety car not questionable at all - no point in racing, when you can't overtake on the main straight. Car was right on the track and had to be removed.

I missed the first 19 laps - must have messed up actually looking at what my alarm was telling me - but after that, it was one of the mor boring races, except for some fights outside the points.

Disappointed that both Verstappen and Hülkenberg DNF'd, and even more disappointed by Sauber's performance - I might have stuck with Lotus, even with Maldonado's pitiful performance. Sure, in the end it wasn't his fault he got spun out by gramps, but nonetheless, racing the McLarens isn't where you want to be in the first place.

At least I got all the high-scorers right.

I might use one of the remaining 8 changes per season to replace Sauber either with Lotus or STR - especially the latter look strong, when their engines aren't too busy blowing up...

Lewis looks pretty clearly set on bagging the WDC, unless some major technical upset happens during the season (which, given recent history, might well happen).
 

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Safety car not questionable at all - no point in racing, when you can't overtake on the main straight. Car was right on the track and had to be removed.

The car was right against the inside wall and in no danger, imo. A yellow for that section was all that was necessary. Even the announcers thought so.

I knew they would send out the SC, though.

In reality, it was unlikely that Ferrari would allow Kimi to challenge Seb anyway.

It was fun imagining the racing, though.

And the cars still sound horrible...
 

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i fell asleep

Should have watched WEC then. Race ended with 5secs between first and second after 6hrs. There was plenty more overtaking for the lead in that race with plenty of drama. The Neel Jani, Marcel Fassler fight was going on for like 10 laps swapping positions.
 

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Rosberg does have a point though - the best result for Mercedes is where no other team interferes with their 1-2. By not opening the gap sufficiently, Lewis (or his race engineer) have put the result for the team at an unnecessary risk - this is something I would be disappointed about as well.

Rosberg probably saw no point in attacking Lewis, since it would probably cost him second place, to run for any length of time behind him - just closing the gap to DRS range is quite costly from a tire point of view. That would have compromised his position even more, compared to Seb. Had Lewis opened the gap, Rosberg could have attacked, since there would have been more of a buffer to cover an undercut, and more liberty to go racing.

Like this, we were denied a battle for the lead, and Mercedes have taken an unnecessary risk at giving away points. I quite understand Rosberg as feeling unwell in that position, where he does nothing but play Hamilton's rear guard.
 

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Rosberg does have a point though - the best result for Mercedes is where no other team interferes with their 1-2. By not opening the gap sufficiently, Lewis (or his race engineer) have put the result for the team at an unnecessary risk - this is something I would be disappointed about as well.

Rosberg probably saw no point in attacking Lewis, since it would probably cost him second place, to run for any length of time behind him - just closing the gap to DRS range is quite costly from a tire point of view. That would have compromised his position even more, compared to Seb. Had Lewis opened the gap, Rosberg could have attacked, since there would have been more of a buffer to cover an undercut, and more liberty to go racing.

Like this, we were denied a battle for the lead, and Mercedes have taken an unnecessary risk at giving away points. I quite understand Rosberg as feeling unwell in that position, where he does nothing but play Hamilton's rear guard.

Yes, but until Hamilton receives orders otherwise, he is under no obligation to support his teammate in any way, shape, or form. When Hamilton received lap targets from the team he met or exceeded them each time.

Nico can whine about it all he wants, but it was the appropriate strategy for Hamilton until he was overridden, and then he did as asked. For someone who used to get talked up as being so "smart" and having the mental edge, he sure doesn't like it when someone uses smart strategies against him. Race drivers should be able to rationalize that and shut down the emotional side, he doesn't seem to have that skill.
 
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Brian Stirling

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Although Lewis may believe Nico is a greater title threat than Vettel the fact is Vettel is still very close in points so Lewis attempting to aid Vettel in an effort to hurt Nico doesn't make sense.

Looks to me that Lewis was just managing his tires knowing he had pace in hand if needed. I'm beginning to believe the Nico is a pussy and will never be able to beat Lewis in equal cars. Lewis owns Nico and they both know it.

Clearly Merc increased there pace relative to Ferrari and I'd surmise about half the increase was due to new parts and the other half to a more favorable track.


Brian
 

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Should have watched WEC then. Race ended with 5secs between first and second after 6hrs. There was plenty more overtaking for the lead in that race with plenty of drama. The Neel Jani, Marcel Fassler fight was going on for like 10 laps swapping positions.

That 5 seconds was due to a questionable penalty for the way ahead Audi.
 

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Although Lewis may believe Nico is a greater title threat than Vettel the fact is Vettel is still very close in points so Lewis attempting to aid Vettel in an effort to hurt Nico doesn't make sense.

Looks to me that Lewis was just managing his tires knowing he had pace in hand if needed. I'm beginning to believe the Nico is a pussy and will never be able to beat Lewis in equal cars. Lewis owns Nico and they both know it.

Clearly Merc increased there pace relative to Ferrari and I'd surmise about half the increase was due to new parts and the other half to a more favorable track.


Brian

It has finally dawned on Nico that Lewis has always been the #1 driver, and always will be.
 

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The Indy car race was another joke...

I think they did about 34 of the scheduled 75 laps, and not many laps were under a green flag.

The only bright spot was when a corner worker wearing a nice shirt and tie ran out into the wet grass and rain to illegally push a car...

Announcers:

"Who the heck was that?"
 
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