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_Rick_

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The worst bit about this, is that almost every single one of those points has been identified as weakness in the past - so let's bring it back, right?
They must have all had a big swig of nostalgia before the meeting.

I don't get this fascination with making the cars go faster, or making them handle more difficultly. The fact of the matter is, even now the cars are quite difficult to handle, with a huge change in driving behaviour over even a single GP-distance.

Sure, some people still complain about DRS and KERS, but without them the races would be decided on Saturday or the first lap.

Lighter cars will probably end Hülkenbergs career. Luckily he's already got a foot into sportscars..
 

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Why go back to heavy aero where you can't pass? We've been down this road before...
 
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well that was unusual!

boring, boring, boring, crash, yellow, mad fight to the finish. i thought i was watching nascar

HUGE error committed by hamilton's strategy team. they made the perfectly wrong call. sky f1 / the hamilton channel was stunned. cheerleader ted sounded like someone died. they're already using words like "scandal" and "scapegoat"

the very best part - brundle is apologetically wrapping up the podium interviews and vettel jumps back in and says "hey, i'm happy!!! "
 
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indy 500 kicking off in half an hour

i'm picking will power for the win, but i'm pulling for juan pablo montoya and simona de silvestro.

Dario Franchitti to pay ultimate tribute to idol Jim Clark before Indy 500

The museum is undergoing an expansion that will house even more Clark memorabilia, including some of Franchitti’s collection of cars, uniforms, helmets, trophies and other keepsakes.

But on Sunday morning, a few minutes before the start of the race Franchitti won three times, he’ll do something that can’t be placed under glass in a museum. He’ll drive Clark’s Ford-powered Lotus 38/1 — the car that won the 1965 Indianapolis 500 — around Indianapolis Motor Speedway before the Indy 500. It’s a chance to honor his countryman and hero, and connect with a driver he never met but is fascinated by.
 

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I know people tend to forget days like this as time rolls on, but this seems to happen more to Hamilton than any other top driver. With Mclaren the same thing happened like 20 times through those years, missing so many opportunities that added up to a record that never reflected his speed or chances of winning races. Even with Merc and Rosberg this has happened enough times that you say Wtf. Then looking back years later people think it was a close season. In reality Ham dominates and gets screwed by decisions like this. Anyone that's watched f1 for even a few seasons (or seen Monaco a few times) knows that was an absolute amateur decision.

At least it livens up the 1-2 fight for the season points - wise.
 
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yes, hamilton's seen a lot of missed opportunities, but the vast majority are totally his own fault. it's only last year he's stopped shooting himself in the foot.
 
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montoya wins a shootout at the end, worst to first!

i certainly wouldn't say he couldn't cut it in nascar, although it was his least successful discipline he's competed in. i'd gladly trade nascar for wins in indy cars, f1 and sports cars. only le mans remains.
 

JulesMaximus

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Seemed like a colossal blunder on the team's part calling Hamilton in for that final stop. Of course, hindsight is always 20/20. I'm kind of rooting for Hamilton. I don't think Rosberg is in the same league quite frankly.
 
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Seemed like a colossal blunder on the team's part calling Hamilton in for that final stop. Of course, hindsight is always 20/20. I'm kind of rooting for Hamilton. I don't think Rosberg is in the same league quite frankly.

i don't have a problem with rosberg, but he's not as quick as hamilton that's for sure. otoh, i think hamilton is a douche.
 

JulesMaximus

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i don't have a problem with rosberg, but he's not as quick as hamilton that's for sure. otoh, i think hamilton is a douche.

I like Rosberg, I just don't think he is as good as Hamilton. A couple years ago Hamilton was his own worst enemy but last season something changed in him. He matured greatly and I think he is probably the best driver out there right now. Vettel is probably right there with him though.
 
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I like Rosberg, I just don't think he is as good as Hamilton. A couple years ago Hamilton was his own worst enemy but last season something changed in him. He matured greatly and I think he is probably the best driver out there right now. Vettel is probably right there with him though.

imo fernando's the best. hamilton and vettel are very, very good and probably quicker over 1 lap, but on race day alonso is always a threat even with a mildly competitive car.

we saw a bit of regression by hamilton on sunday. after the fuck up, he lost it. he stopped the car and had to be told over the radio to pull it together, and his actions were pure punk after that. he's right to be furious, but he's still a spoiled child when things go against him.
 

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imo fernando's the best. hamilton and vettel are very, very good and probably quicker over 1 lap, but on race day alonso is always a threat even with a mildly competitive car.



we saw a bit of regression by hamilton on sunday. after the fuck up, he lost it. he stopped the car and had to be told over the radio to pull it together, and his actions were pure punk after that. he's right to be furious, but he's still a spoiled child when things go against him.


Shows how good button is. Kept up with Hamilton and now he is keeping Alonso honest.
 

JulesMaximus

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imo fernando's the best. hamilton and vettel are very, very good and probably quicker over 1 lap, but on race day alonso is always a threat even with a mildly competitive car.

we saw a bit of regression by hamilton on sunday. after the fuck up, he lost it. he stopped the car and had to be told over the radio to pull it together, and his actions were pure punk after that. he's right to be furious, but he's still a spoiled child when things go against him.

I would have agreed with you on this a year or two ago but man has he been making horrible career moves lately.
 
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I would have agreed with you on this a year or two ago but man has he been making horrible career moves lately.

to be honest, nobody saw ferrari coming back this year or any time soon. that ship continued sinking after alonso made the decision to leave. how did they turn it around so quickly, and how did vettel know it was the right time to jump?
 

EightySix Four

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we saw a bit of regression by hamilton on sunday. after the fuck up, he lost it. he stopped the car and had to be told over the radio to pull it together, and his actions were pure punk after that. he's right to be furious, but he's still a spoiled child when things go against him.

Eh, I didn't really see anything he did as being spoiled or bratty, he's clearly an emotional person and needed a moment to collect himself. That seems more mature than going and popping off especially since Monaco doesn't have any place to get away from the cameras for a moment.

Some people are saying hitting the sign was twatty, but we've seen drivers do that repeatedly (and Hamilton often overshoots when pitting). I also have to wonder if the brakes cooled down during his little meditation moment. I don't think we'll ever know if it was intentional or not, so I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt just as I would any driver in that situation.

The rest, I mean, he seemed to be pissed and frustrated but didn't act out in any way and didn't let a reporter get under his skin, which is all you can ask for from anyone who is that competitive.
 

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Haters gonna hate. Hamilton's handled this kind of thing so well so many times. And SO many of the times he had issues it was poor strategy, pit errors, car failures etc. Everyone's so quick to say he's causing these problems for himself but it seems like 75% of the time or more it's other BS that prevents a win. And of course he's pissed off a lot of the time. Many years of his career have been lost to those types of errors. The best years of his career, the best chances and it must be entirely frustrating to have your whole career on the line for many of these idiotic blunders caused by someone else. Throughout his career he's been making some of the most daring and exciting overtakes in the sport and all the drivers recognize he's one of the best. Sometimes there will be contact when you're pushing so hard, and if your team mucks up a wheel change costing you a few positions and you need to aggressively pass back to recover your places, the risks go up again.

I think he's surprisingly calm considering what's on the line and his personality type. Everyone's quick to point the finger at him saying he's whining etc. but he's handling it all better than anyone I know would.
 
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JulesMaximus

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Haters gonna hate. Hamilton's handled this kind of thing so well so many times. And SO many of the times he had issues it was poor strategy, pit errors, car failures etc. Everyone's so quick to say he's causing these problems for himself but it seems like 75% of the time or more it's other BS that prevents a win. And of course he's pissed off a lot of the time. Many years of his career have been lost to those types of errors. The best years of his career, the best chances and it must be entirely frustrating to have your whole career on the line for many of these idiotic blunders caused by someone else. Throughout his career he's been making some of the most daring and exciting overtakes in the sport and all the drivers recognize he's one of the best. Sometimes there will be contact when you're pushing so hard, and if your team mucks up a wheel change costing you a few positions and you need to aggressively pass back to recover your places, the risks go up again.

I think he's surprisingly calm considering what's on the line and his personality type. Everyone's quick to point the finger at him saying he's whining etc. but he's handling it all better than anyone I know would.

Agreed. His mental toughness has improved greatly last season over seasons past. I thought he handled this extremely well. He wasn't pointing fingers at the team after the race and he sure as hell could have.

I thought Rosberg handled things poorly a couple races ago when he accused Hamilton of hampering his race.
 
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